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Old 07-06-2012, 02:13 PM
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Default Sist FW190A8 1:4

I will be starting a Sist FW190A8 1/4 scale plane here in a few weeks. Here are some images of the kit and scale parts.
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:20 PM
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Default RE: Sist FW190A8 1:4

My plan is to model Red 1 with the JG54 as flow by Leutnant Hans Dortenmann
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Default RE: Sist FW190A8 1:4

It looks like the group stripe were made offical in February 1945...



20 February 1945

"B.Br.Nr.2/45 g.Kdos.

Subject: Jagdgeschwader Markings

Encl: 1

By the order of the Reichsmarschall and for purposes of improving aerial
recognition, Jagdgeschwader aircraft are to be marked by
fuselage-encircling colored stripes as indicated in the appended
enclosure. Attention of troops down to platoon level is to be drawn to
these markings which should simplify the recognition and distinction of
our own aircraft."
[/b]


Unit Colour of Stripes RLM Designation[/b]

...

J.G. 54 bright blue (24)[/b]




I could use some help with determing the correct color for the JG54 Bright Blue? Isee RLM 24 Blue, but I am not sure I would consider this Bright Blue.



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Default RE: Sist FW190A8 1:4

Here is a nice 1:48 scale FW190A-8, Hans Dortenmann 2/JG54 France, June 1944:

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/i...opic=234912857

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Old 07-06-2012, 03:34 PM
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Subscribed...

I am building the 1/4.5 Vailly FW 190 on the other site.   Are those landing gear from "AS-Scale"...over in Germany?
Like the Red 1 scheme as well...  I have a copy of "Luftwaffe Camoufage And Markings"  and RLM 24 is as bright a blue as they have in the color charts included...

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Are those landing gear from "AS-Scale"...over in Germany?



I am not sure who makes the landing gear; you could contact Götz and ask him...

http://www.teamaeroscale.com/sistfw190A1-4.html


Also, thanks for confirming the RLM24...

John

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Default RE: Sist FW190A8 1:4

The blue isnt any RLM color. This was indicated by one of the group pilots. They got blue from some source and applied it to the planes.
Some pics of my Sis-t 1/5 190.

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Old 07-06-2012, 04:20 PM
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Default RE: Sist FW190A8 1:4

the blue is RLM24

my SiSt from a couple years ago
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:37 PM
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They finally released it, nice! Definitely subscribed
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Hah.. Mines better! LOL
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Hah.. Mines better! LOL
not bad for old timer my friend
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LOL toddy you know how us old guys are.. slow and steady !
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Default RE: Sist FW190A8 1:4

I got the following in the works:

CARF P-47 - Kansas Tornado II 42-26249 operated by 405th FG/510th FS
Scale Wings LA7 1:3.5 - Blue tail 97

I hope you guys don't mine me going down the same path with JG54 Red 1 as you did...



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look forward to your build, you do great work
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I will subscribe to this thread also. I have the same kit I hope to be starting soon. I might do the zebra winter scheme not sure of the Sq. yet need to pull me documentation out again. Good luck with you're built. What is your motor of choice.?
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Here is the color charts in the Camouflage and Markings book I mentioned earlier.
Now that I look at it...the blue 24 is actually much more "blue" in this picture than on this page in person...funny.
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look forward to your build, you do great work
Thanks Todd...

I am going to try to work on the LA7 and this FW190 at the same time. Still have a lot of work to do on the LA7 and for some reason the wing and body are matching up well which is going to take extra work to make that look right...

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I will subscribe to this thread also. I have the same kit I hope to be starting soon. I might do the zebra winter scheme not sure of the Sq. yet need to pull me documentation out again. Good luck with you're built. What is your motor of choice.?
Going with Moki 250 in all three planes

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look forward to your build, you do great work
Thanks Todd...

I am going to try to work on the LA7 and this FW190 at the same time. Still have a lot of work to do on the LA7 and for some reason the wing and body are matching up well which is going to take extra work to make that look right...

awsume, the LA7 build is great.

when you can, try and find the "Official Luftwaffe Color Chart" from Jerry Crandall
at Eagle Editions. Jerry doesnt carry this anymore, but it is found on EBAY now and
again. The colors are authenticated by Warnecke & Bohm, GMBH & Co who supplied
the original colors for the Luftwaffe during WWII

If you cant find one, let me know

http://www.kitreview.com/reviews/eag...rchartbg_1.htm
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ORIGINAL: t_burley

look forward to your build, you do great work
Thanks Todd...

I am going to try to work on the LA7 and this FW190 at the same time. Still have a lot of work to do on the LA7 and for some reason the wing and body are matching up well which is going to take extra work to make that look right...

awsume, the LA7 build is great.

when you can, try and find the "Official Luftwaffe Color Chart" from Jerry Crandall
at Eagle Editions. Jerry doesnt carry this anymore, but it is found on EBAY now and
again. The colors are authenticated by Warnecke & Bohm, GMBH & Co who supplied
the original colors for the Luftwaffe during WWII

If you cant find one, let me know


I will start looking for it "Official Luftwaffe Color Chart"...

Another option that my kids like is No. 2, but Ihaven't researched it





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I use Crandall's color chart mainly for all my Luftwaffe paint.

I also have the following charts as well, but always go back to Jerry's stuff

The Modellers Luftwaffe Painting guide by JR Smith

Colours of the German Luftwaffe 1935-1945 by Michael Ullman

Luftwaffe Colors 1935-1945 by Michael Ullman

The Official Monogram Painting Guide for german Aircraft 1935-1945 by Kenneth Merrick

plus a couple other charts I have collected over the years.

and also have the color formulas in the FW190 Vol II from Jerry Crandall as well
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I am discussing a FW190 prop with Seidel props that will have the hub rings milled into the wood.

Mario made props for my P-47 and LA7, and Iam extremely pleased with how they turned out.
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wxman you comming to WOD this year? If so I'll look for you.
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wxman you comming to WOD this year? If so I'll look for you.
Ihad hoped to fly the P47 at WODthis year, but that did not work out. I am planning to drive up and spend a day at WOD, maybe Thrusday or Friday. I will PMyou...

The plan now is to bring all three planes next year.
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Glad to read you are pleased with your Seidel prop. Since I have changed engines from the EVO99 to the Moki 150 I have been interested in looking intothe Seidel prop. I have sent several emails, via their web site,looking for a quote/delivery for a 1/4.5 scale 190A prop, but so far no response...?Any suggestions?


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