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Old 03-29-2020, 05:03 PM
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Capt John,m

The flap joiner is installed in the inner flap. With regard to securing the outer wing panels, the builder installed a 1/4" blind nut in the last rib of the wing and used a 1/4" wing bolt to secure the wing. The bolt is shorted and must use a short screw driver in the wheel well to tighten. It works. The DLE 61 turns the 21-10 3 blade at 6,150 rpm. I didn't tack the 2 blade. I think I'll test fly with the 22-10 two blade. I cost less.


The front hole is the one used.

You can seen the ply was added to hold the nut.

I think the 3 blade looks good.

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Old 03-29-2020, 07:31 PM
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Thanks for the info. That’s an interesting wing join solution. The three blade prop does look good!
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Originally Posted by MaJ. Woody
Did you guys balance with the gear up or down? The manual only says to balance inverted with an empty fuel tank. The illustration shows the gear up and the drop tank on.
I balanced the plane with the gear up and inverted. The fuel tank empty and no drop tank.
The reason to do it this way is because in the worst case scenario if you run out of gas completely the plane will be balanced neutral. When the gear deploys forward the CG will shift nose heavy and add drag. With a little bit of gas left at the end of a flight the plane will be slightly nose heavy but still very responsive when landing.

Just balance the plane neutral and it will be just fine.
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Thanks Chris!
Old 03-30-2020, 02:47 AM
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The picture in the manual very clearly shows the gear retracted and advises that all attachments you intend to fly with be attached. Balance point is stated at 6 inches with the option of 6 and 5/8ths as the rearmost recommended point. Not much room for interpretation on this issue.
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Gear up so that the CG swings forward slightly with the gear extended.
Old 03-31-2020, 01:18 PM
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Mine balances dead level at the 6" mark with an empty tank and all equipment and batteries installed. Dropping the gear changes the CG dramatically and the model becomes very nose heavy. If that is the spec I guess I wont worry about it. I did not add any weight except for filling the dummy radial and engine case completely with Epoxy.






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The drop tank does not change the CG at all. I am concerned for how close this is to the exhaust. I spent way too much time on that tank. I glassed the entire inside, reinforced the structure and completely primed an painted it. I fear it will get burned up by the exhaust and or hurt the performance of the engine. I can perhaps put some aluminum tape in that area. I use that inside of my turbine jets. I may have to plan to drop the tank early in the flight.






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Now that the build is done, I can add the decals (Callie Graphics) and do the weathering. I will probably start another thread and post all the pictures of the mods I did.
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Originally Posted by MaJ. Woody
Now that the build is done, I can add the decals (Callie Graphics) and do the weathering. I will probably start another thread and post all the pictures of the mods I did.
Hi Maj. Woody;

Thanks for posting your pics, looks great, interested to hear about your mods.

Question:
What C/G balancer are you using for your model?

Best regards
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Hi RBean:

Thanks for posting the pics of the outer wing panel joiner method.
The 1/4-20 method will work fine.

I like the access point through the landing gear wheel well. I will look at keeping the fiberglass wheel well in place and use a 1/4-20 socket head bolt.
A 3/8" access hole in the side of the well should be enough to slide the bolt head through.

I'll keep you posted on the results.

Best regards
Randy

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Anyone have a guide for where the maintenance nomenclature goes? I have been searching the net for hours and cant find anything.
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Originally Posted by MaJ. Woody
Anyone have a guide for where the maintenance nomenclature goes? I have been searching the net for hours and cant find anything.

I have what you need. Shoot me an email and I will send you the file.

[email protected]
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Thank You Chad!
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Originally Posted by cgcrc
Hi RBean:

Thanks for posting the pics of the outer wing panel joiner method.
The 1/4-20 method will work fine.

I like the access point through the landing gear wheel well. I will look at keeping the fiberglass wheel well in place and use a 1/4-20 socket head bolt.
A 3/8" access hole in the side of the well should be enough to slide the bolt head through.

I'll keep you posted on the results.

Best regards
Randy
Will you still be using the wing spar attachment screws as well as the 1/4-20 socket head bolt?
John
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Originally Posted by CAPT John
Will you still be using the wing spar attachment screws as well as the 1/4-20 socket head bolt?
John
No, just the 1/4" bolt. The plane has already flown many times in that configuration without problems.
Old 04-07-2020, 01:12 PM
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Thanks for the reply. Using the 1/4” bolt would allow me to cover the wing spar screw access holes when I fiberglass the wing.
John
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RBean’s wing joiner method works great. I used hex head bolts and a t-nuts. I also added an o-ring to keep the bolts in place. Thanks for the idea!

John
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Hi John and RBean:

Thanks for posting your pics....agreed, nice alternative for the wing joining method.
As previously mentioned the RTC models can now fill in the access holes on the wing sheeting.

Randy
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Old 04-11-2020, 08:35 AM
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Nice job bro!!
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Old 04-11-2020, 10:44 AM
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Thanks bro! Hopefully the need for social distancing will pass soon so you can help me maiden the Hellcat.
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Hi Fellows

(I’m just finishing my present build and about to move onto the RTC Hellcat assembly)

Thanks to all who have posted suggestions, ideas and pics re the outer wing panel mounting process.

I like the idea of the 1/4-20 socket head bolt and blind nut option through the wheel well. It’s the easiest mod with a small hole in the fiberglass LG tub.

For those who have access to a milling machine, here is another option if you elect to use the existing top and bottom wing mounting method.

An aluminum cap that is machined, pre drilled, tapped and glued in place with JB Weld over the existing rail. It allows for a lot more material the 4-40 bolt will thread through both top and bottom.

Because it can’t be screwed into place against the spar the added tabs with holes provide further gluing surface.

The cap can be held in place with a clamp during the glue curing process.

Best regards
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Old 04-12-2020, 09:08 AM
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The ARF has been discontinued but the RTC is in stock
Old 04-12-2020, 09:28 AM
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Which means the rtc will show discontinued once the warehouse runs out. Several parts are discontinued too. Man I hate how horizonhobby does business. “Sell a few and discontinue” should be their motto, hell maybe it is. Absolutely no loyalty to their customers.
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Better buy one or two before they're gone! Top Flite warbirds are great, but like everything else they have limited availability.


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