Old Corsair resserection/restoration
12-31-2003, 08:37 PM
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RE: Old Corsair resserection/restoration
Thank you Scalecraft for your gracious offer, will keep it in mind. Dimiani I hope you're right about the ID on this old bird, wish I knew more of her story. I've determined that the panel lines WERE done by the original builder, and taking her apart for restoration has shown me whoever did build it did a good job. I'm impressed. Most of the planes in my hanger(s) are rebuilds. Great experience, and it keeps me out of the bars. Now, I need some imput from Y'all on how to do the flaps. I figure I have 3 options. #1, cut in the rest of the lower wing for straight flaps and not worry about scale: #2, go w/ the "scale" split flaps and Y the pushrod to catch both, or #3: Extend the ailerons down to the bend in the wing and do flaperons. (with a possibility of spoilerons also). Don't really want to cut the foam wing up too much, tell me what you think.
03-06-2005, 07:20 PM
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[X(] Wow hard to believe over a year since last post on this thread. Time to bring y'all up to date. Wings stripped, waiting filling and glassing. Fuselage is almost all stripped, control surfaces ready for assembly and glassing. I'm one of those builders that has about 4 or 5 (well, Maybe 6
) things going at once. Should build my workbench like a big Lazy Susan and just turn it once a week or so. I'd probibly get more done. Heres a few pics, pardon the quality. Cheap cam.
) things going at once. Should build my workbench like a big Lazy Susan and just turn it once a week or so. I'd probibly get more done. Heres a few pics, pardon the quality. Cheap cam.
03-06-2005, 07:24 PM
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The last pic is of my Whistler autogyro which by the way I just Finished
Havn't flown it yet, waiting for some warmer weather.
Havn't flown it yet, waiting for some warmer weather.
03-06-2005, 08:55 PM
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Looks good
Found a pic of my composite "Jemco" 54" span corsair. Still flying. 6.5 lbs, magnum 60, rhom air rotating retracts, aprox 10oz to CG for very slow forgiving landings. If its a Jemco.
No flaps. Extra work, extra wieght, not worth it for a model that will land like a trainer Unless you like the look of "flaps down"
Found a pic of my composite "Jemco" 54" span corsair. Still flying. 6.5 lbs, magnum 60, rhom air rotating retracts, aprox 10oz to CG for very slow forgiving landings. If its a Jemco.
No flaps. Extra work, extra wieght, not worth it for a model that will land like a trainer Unless you like the look of "flaps down"
03-07-2005, 10:31 AM
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Dinosaur454, you are a braver man than me. Of course, after reading your initial post it sounds like you have the heart and soul of a man ready to tackle this job. You will definitely inspire anyone who might have crashed an airplane and thought it was a lost cause. Good luck! [sm=thumbup.gif]
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03-07-2005, 02:52 PM
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Thank you Wildcard. I appreciate the kind words. I've been tearing into it for the last few days, enjoying a short layoff from work couple of weeks or so so I'm glad to have some spare time. Actually got tired of tripping over it while dubbin' with other stuff. Decided not to go with flaps or retracts on this one, I'll save that for the Great Planes Corsair sitting in the kit closet. Cut in some new balsa patches on a couple tender spots on fuse, will glass over. The glass already on her is such a fine small weave I think a couple light coats of primer should fill it in quite well. The trailing edges of the horizontal stab. are shot so I'll trim off a little over 1/4 inch or so and add new hard balsa followed by glass over whole stab. Gonna go with CA hinges so slots will be quite small. Got a couple stress cracks alongside belly pan seams towards the back, will epoxy in cracks then glass over both sides. Will use epoxy/glass on the fuse, gonna go with Water based poly/glass on wings. I showed the old girl to the other club members when I first got her, they said Garbage. Gotta prove them wrong. Enclosing todays pics. Already starting spot putty on fuse dings. She'll be beautiful when I'm done, I promise!
03-07-2005, 03:05 PM
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Sorry ScaleCraft, didn't mean to ignore you. Corsair looks real good to me, yes you should rehab it if that means she needs to fly again. I'm thinking about going with a Marine decal scheme, maybe even doing it up as a "Black Sheep" squadron bird. A couple guys in the club have Corsairs and they all look the same, the standard Great Planes scheme. Nothing against Great Planes at all, I just want mine to be different. Just picked up an old ASP 61 from a buddy, what do you think?
03-08-2005, 08:52 AM
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I flew mine on an MDS .61 and an O.S. .61FSR it weighed 8# with fixed gear and no flaps but boy did it fly great!
good luck with it they are a wonderful flying model.
Mike
good luck with it they are a wonderful flying model.
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03-08-2005, 11:11 AM
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Added new sheeting to the bottom of the nose and glassed it up last night. Decided to go with the poly and glass since thats what I'm gonna do the wing with and have never worked with the poly before. Laid the glass strip down, gave 3 light coats about an hour apart. It didn't set up as hard as epoxy, but seems to be adhering quite well. First thing this morn. I went and mixed some poly and talcum powder at about a 60/40 mix; 3 tsp. of poly to 2 tsp. of talcum. (no microballoons). The resulting slurry I brushed into last nights glass. Waiting for it to dry right now, then I'll sand w/320 grain paper and see what she looks like. Gotta make a trip to the local hobby store, ordering a set of Top Flite vac-formed Corsair oil coolers and a 1/8 scale dummy radial engine. Might have to trim them both down, we'll see. I'm really starting to get into this project.
03-08-2005, 12:00 PM
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ORIGINAL: dinosaur454
Anyone know where I could find vac-formed machine guns for this old girl?
Anyone know where I could find vac-formed machine guns for this old girl?
Email CorsairJock and see if he can set you up. He was kind enough to sell me a pair for my TF Corsair and they look great.
Nice job on this rebuild.
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03-08-2005, 12:26 PM
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Thanks Rocketman, I'll definitely do that. Well, started sanding w/320 grit, too coarse. Switched to 400 damp and it looks nice. Started filling in the gaps in the sheeting on the wing with Elmers indoor wood putty. I think it works a little better than spackling. I'll fill the whole wing than sand sand sand. The wing saddles are a little beat, think I'm gonna have to do up some wing fillets for the old girl. I'm researching fillet techniques right now. Heres some pics.
03-08-2005, 04:51 PM
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Taking a break from sanding. Wings cleaning up real well. Feathered the reinforcing glass on the gull bends into the wings and evened up the wingtips, they were off. Replaced a missing chunk of leading edge. Little more feather sanding and we might get into laying some glass tonight We're under a winter storm warning right now, but thats OK 'cause I'm not going anywheres anytime soon. Don't have enough glass to do whole wing so I'll pick up some more tomorrow. Heres some pics
We're under a winter storm warning right now, but thats OK 'cause I'm not going anywheres anytime soon. Don't have enough glass to do whole wing so I'll pick up some more tomorrow. Heres some pics
03-08-2005, 06:41 PM
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Just got done the 1st piece of glass on the wing. Not too bad working stuff this poly. Leading edge curled around nicely, not so well on the trailing edge but I'll smooth it down again in a half hour or so. Got an hour to wait before 2nd coat. Doing the bottom of the wing in 3 sections, both outer wings and the belly. This poly I'm using goes on milky white but dries clear. Its the gloss, was gonna use the satin but the hardware store was out of satin in waterproof poly. Oh well. Yes, heres some pics
03-09-2005, 12:15 PM
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Bottom of the wing is glassed. Out of curiousity I hung it off the scales (Zebco De-liar) and got an overall weight. Slightly over 2 lbs for the wing, slightly under 2 for the fuse. So I'm calling it 4 lbs right now. Was looking at a bunch of corsair pics earlier, doesnt look like the corsair had much of a wing fillet at all so I think I'll be able to get away with some deftly sanded triangle stock. Read somewhere about bending balsa with a 50/50 mix of ammonia and water so I'll try it when I do the fillets. Now I want to get everyones opinion (and probibly start a debate) on which is better: Automotive paint or House latex? Please, y'all feel free to tell me what you think and why. Thanks
) on which is better: Automotive paint or House latex? Please, y'all feel free to tell me what you think and why. Thanks
03-09-2005, 12:35 PM
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If your running glow depending on nitro content neither may hold up well. I believe the automotive paint will do better than home latex unless you can find a clear coat to fuelproof. I'm using Nelson paint and with their crosslinker it will tolerate nitro to at least 15%.
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03-09-2005, 12:54 PM
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To be honest the Corsair had no wing to fuselage fillet one of the benefits of the gull wing was the 90 deg. angle where the wing met the fuse eliminating the need for any fairings.
03-09-2005, 04:16 PM
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RE: Old Corsair resserection/restoration
SCALECRAFT,
not intended to turn this thread into a commercial inquiry, but do you sell the composite JEMCO Corsair? I would be most interested in any details you could provide. I have ONE untouched JEMCO Corsair kit left and hate to build it. My last JEMCO Corsair was mid-aired in the mid to late 1980s while stationed at Yokota AB, Japan. At any rate, I would appreciate any info you could provide - my email is [email protected].
randy
not intended to turn this thread into a commercial inquiry, but do you sell the composite JEMCO Corsair? I would be most interested in any details you could provide. I have ONE untouched JEMCO Corsair kit left and hate to build it. My last JEMCO Corsair was mid-aired in the mid to late 1980s while stationed at Yokota AB, Japan. At any rate, I would appreciate any info you could provide - my email is [email protected].
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03-09-2005, 08:28 PM
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Got the 1st piece of glass on the top of the wing. 2 light coats of poly on, and I screeded the excess off in between coats. Probibly won't lay the last piece until tomorrow. Had to cheat in a couple small areas on trailing edge where glass just wouldn't stay put so I hit it with CA. The top of the wing I went over Super carefully so It'll look good. Took alot of filling in a couple spots, but can't feel it through the glass so I think I'm ok. I'm not looking forwards to filling the weave in the glass. I work for a general construction contractor and on the job I'm doing now the HVAC people are putting in a radiant cooling panel ceiling. Standard 2x2 panels in suspended ceiling, these panels are heavily perforated with pinholes. Cold water supply lines run down and around inside these panels and the cold air produced just drops down from these panels. The system is from Europe somewheres. Anyways, I got my hands on one of the "blank" panels (one with no piping on top) that got scratched and I said this would make a GREAT sanding table top. So, I'm gonna build a plywood box for this panel to sit on top of and I'll tie in a shop vac to one side of the box. If it works right all sanding dust produced should get sucked down through the panel into the box and vac. Modified correctly it might even work for vacuum forming. Gotta do something because I raise Clouds of dust when I get to going. Heres a couple pics. The red clips are "Chip Clips" I picked up down at the Dollar store. They work Great!
. The top of the wing I went over Super carefully so It'll look good. Took alot of filling in a couple spots, but can't feel it through the glass so I think I'm ok. I'm not looking forwards to filling the weave in the glass. I work for a general construction contractor and on the job I'm doing now the HVAC people are putting in a radiant cooling panel ceiling. Standard 2x2 panels in suspended ceiling, these panels are heavily perforated with pinholes. Cold water supply lines run down and around inside these panels and the cold air produced just drops down from these panels. The system is from Europe somewheres. Anyways, I got my hands on one of the "blank" panels (one with no piping on top) that got scratched and I said this would make a GREAT sanding table top. So, I'm gonna build a plywood box for this panel to sit on top of and I'll tie in a shop vac to one side of the box. If it works right all sanding dust produced should get sucked down through the panel into the box and vac. Modified correctly it might even work for vacuum forming. Gotta do something because I raise Clouds of dust when I get to going. Heres a couple pics. The red clips are "Chip Clips" I picked up down at the Dollar store. They work Great!
