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Old 02-25-2007, 09:14 PM
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Default Building 2 Balsa USA Nieuport 28

Nick and the Snake have started new projects together.These are balsa USA Nieuport 28.Here are some of the picts.These are 3 day progress.
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:50 PM
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Nice work Rich. Is that another WWI wing in the background?

A couple shots of my 26-hr weekend build-a-thon. Wings are not joined or cap-stripped.

NICK
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:58 PM
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Default RE: Building 2 Balsa USA Nieuport 28

They look like two great projects.
Old 02-26-2007, 04:13 AM
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Nice work, boyos. I can't build that "clean". I don't even see a stray drop of CA there. Good stuff.

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These are good flying plane.
I was dog fighting and lost mine but had many flights first
I had a 25cc just rite.
Old 03-17-2007, 11:25 PM
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Mine flew real good, i had a 25cc
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:49 PM
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This is what's done after 135 hours of work. Aligning the incidences were a b*&%#!

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Old 04-16-2007, 10:47 AM
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Building the same, but for electric power.

Weight at this point with 4 servos is 6 lbs 12 oz - is that about right?

Old 04-16-2007, 05:15 PM
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Wow, fantastic R101. Very nice work indeed!

Mine weighs @ exactly 7 lbs. without engine and cowling, so we're right in the same ballpark.

I see you have your 'N' and cabane struts done. Did you carefully check the incidence levels? Initially I did not, as instructed at the beginning of the manual - BIG mistake.
I purchased two incidence meters (laser and needle-type) and spent over 20 hours with the alignments, fabricating new struts and basically confirming everything is true.
With the fuselage absolutely level, my initial readings were 3 degrees positive on the lower and 3.5 on the upper. Spec's call for 0 degrees lower and 1.5 - 2 degrees upper. In addition, the mounting deck for the horizontal platform measured 1 degree Negative!
So, I literally discarded the N-struts and built new ones with 5/32" music wire and brass tangs. To correct the cabanes, I simply shimmed them with ply - 1/8" aft and 1/32" fwd.
The fuselage required 1/8" removed from the rear saddle.
The horizontal stab deck required a tapered 1/8" shim (fwd.) to give me exactly 1.75 degrees of positive incidence on the H-stab. Measurements are now exactly as plans indicate, except for the positive incidence in the H-stab.


So, how much time do you have invested? What is your target weight with the electric power system? I'm shooting for 15.5-16 lbs. with that Saito, SolarTex, latex paint.

This week, I'll be cutting the ailerons out, hinging and installing the wing servo trays.


NICK
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Nick,

Are you going to add a spreader bar between the wheels? I originally didn't on my BUSA. But, after many landings the wheels spread further and further apart. I added the spreader bar and it stiffened up the gear alot.

I am working on a Proctor 28 now and they have a spreader bar. Just something to consider.

That Saito radial will surely sound sweet. Good luck with the rest of the build.

John
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Nick

I have not yet checked the incidences and should have done so - will report back the results.

I assumed (naively?) that the kit build would take care of the incidences.

Started the kit in February and found it an easy enough build.

I noticed the lack of a spreader bar and will probably add one now, as the U/C is bound to spread with my landing skills.

I am hoping for a weight around the 12 lb mark

The tail bracing wires seem a bit OTT, so I intend using kevlar thread in place of the wires and quick links.

Using closed loop control on the rudder
Old 04-18-2007, 02:48 PM
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I assumed (naively?) that the kit build would take care of the incidences.
Yeah, I assumed that also on my BUSA DR1 build, which is why she climbs like a homesick angel and deviates in altitude upon throttle changes.

Twelve pounds is a bit conservative. Maybe if AAA contest balsa was substituted for the kit wood, which I found was heavier than I'm used too. Covering?
You will likely need nose weight; however placing those batteries up front will certainly help.

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Old 04-18-2007, 04:11 PM
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I'll need to do some tests with the motor before flying.

I used balsa for the fuselage decking instead of the ply supplied to save weight and because I was having difficulty trying to shape and bend the ply.

Covering in Polyester (Polyspan?) will save a bit as well hopefully.
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Nieuport is covered and weight is 7 lbs 4 oz.

Both wings are +2deg relative to the stab

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It flies

Old 05-01-2007, 03:49 PM
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Great surprise! Please provide all information, including CG location, control throws, total weight (RTF) and overall flying characteristics.

I'm awaiting rib stitching before I can cover. Ordered the roundel stencils for painting; just didn't feel comfortable with applied decals or graphics over the stitching and open-bay design.

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Old 05-01-2007, 04:16 PM
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The weight for the first flight was under 12 lbs.

The CG was about 3/16 in front of the plan mark, and I set the control throws as per instructions and they seemed just about right.

The model flies great with no apparent vices - just like a big trainer, although I just flew it around and have not yet tried any aerobatics.

I'll now need to think about painting and finishing it.
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Where do you get the stencils from?
Old 05-06-2007, 08:51 PM
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For stencils try getstencils.com Great guy to work with..

http://www.getstencils.com/

A picture of my SE5a using his stencils.
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Default RE: Building 2 Balsa USA Nieuport 28

BobH wrote ...
For stencils try getstencils.com Great guy to work with..
Good call, Bob. That guy would be Gary Sibert and I never miss a chance to go to him for lettering or stencils - I don't care how complicated or how simple. And I never miss a chance to agree with others who recommend his work!

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I received my roundel stencils from Gary last week; they look great.
I'm about one week out from completing the covering which is taking longer due to the rib-stitching.

NICK
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Thanks!, got a ton of info on the sight and by going to Evo's models links as well.
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Now painted ....waiting for waether to improve before flying again

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BUSA Nieuport 28 finally complete and ready for battle!
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Old 07-15-2007, 02:18 AM
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Very nice - how much does she weigh?

Poasted a video of mine flying here (I need to do something about the background noise on the video !!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cCy4oRA5tU


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