Is there a glass fuse available for the 70" Ziroli Jug now? I have not seen it but it would be great if there is. For not much more money than it costs to build the TF Gold Edition P-47 you can build the smaller Ziroli which offers much more of a "giant scale" feel despite being "only" 70 inches span. Granted, you'll need a bit more skill to do the Ziroli as it does not come with a fully illustrated instruction booklet, but it's worth the effort.

Oh, you are talking about the little Jug... never mind no glass fuse for that one.

Ziroli plans are pretty good. I enjoyed his Ercoupe very much. If a 36cc is a good fit, which on paper it seems so then go for that. Put on your patience hat and have a go. If you are not sure ask before you glue. Many folks are more than willing to help. Is there any one at your field that builds from plans? If so ask if they will be willing to help. Building is half of this hobby, enjoy.

evil I understand what you are saying and I applaud you on your honesty on this topic. I know this wont be easy but I am confident I could do this now.
carlbecker I have looked into the platt plans And am considering the P51. I have thought long and hard on what you have said and thank you too. but there are so many plans out there but a few that will take a 36cc.
I still have a lot of time to chose because I have a few irons in the fire yet.
Christmas.. then a cruise in January. And like an IDIOT I told the wife she could have my Kitty all 1,000 dollars of it. Geeze what the H--- was I thinking.. the Ziroli plans are of interest also maybe the P47
Thanks to all that have replied, I am still open to more suggestions on this topic.

If you are interested in the Platt FW190 I have the short kit, retracts and a PCK kit all for sale. Check my ad on RCU...
PM me if you'd like photos or to discuss.
Al

Chad,

Please explain the "giant scale" feeling you're talking about. Is it a feel when building the plane or flying it? Or both?

For me its both.

A giant scale airplane for me is easier to assemble. The pieces are larger, typically less fragile and make more sense visually for me. Yeah the build table is a lot bigger and manuvering the plane around can be tricky... but hey...

As for flying, its been well said, bigger flies better. You would honestly be shocked at the difference flying a 70" WS Jug and then flying a 90" Jug... its almost miles different.

Both building and flying js3. Even though the Ziroli Jug is "only" 7 inches bigger than the TF kit the airplanes' volume is much greater. The Ziroli Jug will easily swallow a G-38 gas burner and will finish out at 16-17 pounds compared to about 12 for the TF airplane. Out at the field it commands more attention, IMHO, than the smaller TF kits as well. It's just apparent the airplane is no longer in the same class as the .60 size fighters.

Kahn41,
Top Flite has a GS P-47 at 85"ws which I think is what you where thinking about instead of the 63" version. I think a G-45 would do there. If the Ziroli 70" comes in at 16 lbs wet I think that would be the way to go for 36cc. The only bad thing about bigger is trying to get it out of the house (hangar rash). From all I have read the P-47 is a great starting warbird with all the parts available as well as replacements. If you want to have someone cut the wood talk to Mace Gill at the AeroplaneWorks. Make sure your CG is correct or forward and use a prop of 8 or 10" pitch. Keep the tail light and don't over build thinking stronger is better than lighter. Remember epoxy is heavy.

Well, you really brought up two subjects. For I have found that the individual plans sold are not the same as those placed in a kit. They may be in certain instances, but not across the board.

And the plans I used to build a model were not too good either.

Wm.

carlbecker
Yes, I was thinking of the 85" p47 my engine is way to small. I am either going to get the ziroli or the Dave Platt I think! BTW when you said the GS top flite P-47 what does the GS stand for? Not to sure.
I already have the CMpro P 47 70" WS with a OS 120 FS Have not flown that one yet. the season ended before I had the chance.

Giant SCale

Set your mind at ease. There is a first time for everything. You can build it, and when you get done there is nothing like taking a new plane you actually built to the field and flying it. There are actually people there that will offer help if you request it. I am 64, I started both building, and flying, in 1965 before Digital RC. We had to run around in circles and see how dizzy we could get. With the state of the art things are at today, believe in yourself. Be sure you post pictures here so we can follow your build and offer assistance when you request it.

BBailey