ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
04-27-2010, 03:54 PM
#428
RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Dan,
It seals in the decals and, since there is no pigment, the clear coat gives a smoother finish.
Also, it gives the surface an extra layer for hanger rash: the clear coat gets scratched instead of the paint.
I believe that it's also a little more stain/scuff resistant than the paint.
It seals in the decals and, since there is no pigment, the clear coat gives a smoother finish.
Also, it gives the surface an extra layer for hanger rash: the clear coat gets scratched instead of the paint.
I believe that it's also a little more stain/scuff resistant than the paint.
04-27-2010, 04:26 PM
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RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Hi there simple .Thanks for the info on skippy very intresting im finding it very hard to get a good picture of the nose art for nocturnal nemesis i dont supose you have any up your sleve do ya lol
Hi there samarfit you bird is coming along very nice witch one are you modeling arfter . i was down my workshop till 1.30 this morning dirting my bird up ive got two weeks to finish her off for one off our bashess over her heres some pics keep up the good work .ps wes i would love to come over and do a two bird formation .my good friend graham buchanan has just finished an shipped over the second of his wildcats ready for topgun and was invited over but he could not make it maybe next year will will come over cheers aaron
Hi there samarfit you bird is coming along very nice witch one are you modeling arfter . i was down my workshop till 1.30 this morning dirting my bird up ive got two weeks to finish her off for one off our bashess over her heres some pics keep up the good work .ps wes i would love to come over and do a two bird formation .my good friend graham buchanan has just finished an shipped over the second of his wildcats ready for topgun and was invited over but he could not make it maybe next year will will come over cheers aaron
04-27-2010, 04:36 PM
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RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Hi ther p40k-5 thanks for the pic i have alredy got this one .the problem is that when the pic is blown up the quality of the pic goes so my guy here in the uk cant get a good enough stenciel from it thanks any way
regards aaron
regards aaron
04-28-2010, 05:12 PM
#434
RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Dremelboy,
excellent weathering job.
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Assembly.
I started with the outer wings putting in the spoilers and using robarts pocket hinges on the flaps and dubro heavy duty hinges on the ailerons using a long piece of piano wire for the aileron hinge pins.
Flaps TE aligned to the inner wing and then ailerons TE aligned to the flaps TE.
pic 1:
Inside of gear doors painted green.
pic 2:
landing lights hand painted light gray.
pic 3-6:
Spoilers painted red and installed.
A long brass wire holds the spoilers 'in place'.
I've seen the spoilers painted black, green and red: I did mine in red so they are easy to see for the 'cool' factor!
pic 7:
Pocket hinges epoxied to outer wing.
pic 8/9:
Ball links used on flaps and flap servo arm.
Pin hinges epoxied into flaps.
excellent weathering job.
===============
Assembly.
I started with the outer wings putting in the spoilers and using robarts pocket hinges on the flaps and dubro heavy duty hinges on the ailerons using a long piece of piano wire for the aileron hinge pins.
Flaps TE aligned to the inner wing and then ailerons TE aligned to the flaps TE.
pic 1:
Inside of gear doors painted green.
pic 2:
landing lights hand painted light gray.
pic 3-6:
Spoilers painted red and installed.
A long brass wire holds the spoilers 'in place'.
I've seen the spoilers painted black, green and red: I did mine in red so they are easy to see for the 'cool' factor!
pic 7:
Pocket hinges epoxied to outer wing.
pic 8/9:
Ball links used on flaps and flap servo arm.
Pin hinges epoxied into flaps.
04-28-2010, 05:16 PM
#435
RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Assembly (Cont)
pic 1:
Ashlok 12 pin connectors for each outer wings 4 servos, landing lights and nav lights.
pic 2:
Check flap to inner wing for clearance.
pic 3:
align aileron TE to flaps TE before epoxying the hinges.
pic 4:
long wire to hold aileron hinges.
pic 5/6:
All three wings checked for surface movement.
pic 1:
Ashlok 12 pin connectors for each outer wings 4 servos, landing lights and nav lights.
pic 2:
Check flap to inner wing for clearance.
pic 3:
align aileron TE to flaps TE before epoxying the hinges.
pic 4:
long wire to hold aileron hinges.
pic 5/6:
All three wings checked for surface movement.
04-28-2010, 05:57 PM
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RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Hi there sam your moving real fast now man its real starting to take shape .just finished up down the work shop need an early night to night. here are a few shots of what ive done tonight .cheers
04-28-2010, 09:47 PM
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RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Dremelboy,
Lookin' good.
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Assembly (cont)
Wings (cont)
pic 1/2:
Drilled/tapped the center wing through the outer wings aluminum tubing for #6 screws to hold the outer wings to the center wing.
pic 3:
Spoiler servo with spring mechanism.
pic 4/5:
Landing light assembly.
pic 6:
Aileron assembly.
pic 7:
one wing done save screwing the aileron control horn.
pic 8:
Axle grease put into the pocket hinge set screw to keep epoxy out of the hole.
Lookin' good.
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Assembly (cont)
Wings (cont)
pic 1/2:
Drilled/tapped the center wing through the outer wings aluminum tubing for #6 screws to hold the outer wings to the center wing.
pic 3:
Spoiler servo with spring mechanism.
pic 4/5:
Landing light assembly.
pic 6:
Aileron assembly.
pic 7:
one wing done save screwing the aileron control horn.
pic 8:
Axle grease put into the pocket hinge set screw to keep epoxy out of the hole.
04-28-2010, 09:51 PM
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RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Assembly (cont)
Wings (cont)
pic 1-4:
inner wing flaps: pocket hinges and pin hinges epoxied to parts.
(epoxy mixed with microballs to increase viscosity so epoxy stays in hinge area)
One of the flap servo hatch supports broke loose and had to be re-epoxied.
pic 5/6:
Rudders attached to booms with wires.
Bottom end of wire 'J' bent and put into hole in bottom of boom.
Nav lights also connected up on rudder.
Wings (cont)
pic 1-4:
inner wing flaps: pocket hinges and pin hinges epoxied to parts.
(epoxy mixed with microballs to increase viscosity so epoxy stays in hinge area)
One of the flap servo hatch supports broke loose and had to be re-epoxied.
pic 5/6:
Rudders attached to booms with wires.
Bottom end of wire 'J' bent and put into hole in bottom of boom.
Nav lights also connected up on rudder.
04-29-2010, 08:46 PM
#439
RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Assembly (cont)
pic 1:
Elevator attached to stab and dual servos installed.
pic 2:
Removable wire used for the pin hinge.
pic 3:
I always keep everything from a kit until it's complete but I can't find the rudder servo covers anywhere.
pic 4:
I'll use some left over mustang covers to make new servo rudder covers.
pic 5/6:
retracts installed.
pic 7:
Making your own extensions nice since they are always the exact length!
pic 8:
dry fit of some parts.
pic 1:
Elevator attached to stab and dual servos installed.
pic 2:
Removable wire used for the pin hinge.
pic 3:
I always keep everything from a kit until it's complete but I can't find the rudder servo covers anywhere.
pic 4:
I'll use some left over mustang covers to make new servo rudder covers.
pic 5/6:
retracts installed.
pic 7:
Making your own extensions nice since they are always the exact length!
pic 8:
dry fit of some parts.
04-30-2010, 12:40 AM
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RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Hi Sam,
Forgive me if it's already answered in the thread....I didn't want to scroll through 18 pages of posts. I noticed your bird has the scale spoilers and the sport scale ailerons. Do you think there will be any problem with this setup? I have seen a few fly with the spoilers and just like the full scale, they are very effective and don't require a large aileron. I just wouldn't want to see it be too aileron sensitive on your maiden with the longer ailerons and the spoilers.
Might not be a factor at all but just wondering if you had any thoughts on it. Sorry if you have already addressed it earlier. Hope to see it out here in August along with your Corsair, Panther, Jug, Spitfire and all of your other planes. Pack em all in that new trailer.
Dave
Forgive me if it's already answered in the thread....I didn't want to scroll through 18 pages of posts. I noticed your bird has the scale spoilers and the sport scale ailerons. Do you think there will be any problem with this setup? I have seen a few fly with the spoilers and just like the full scale, they are very effective and don't require a large aileron. I just wouldn't want to see it be too aileron sensitive on your maiden with the longer ailerons and the spoilers.
Might not be a factor at all but just wondering if you had any thoughts on it. Sorry if you have already addressed it earlier. Hope to see it out here in August along with your Corsair, Panther, Jug, Spitfire and all of your other planes. Pack em all in that new trailer.
Dave
04-30-2010, 07:48 PM
#441
RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Dave,
I was worried about not having enough role should the spoilers ever go 'south' so I put the larger ailerons on. With travel adjustment made easy on our radios, I can just reduce the throws to 3/8-5/8".
Thanks for asking.
I was worried about not having enough role should the spoilers ever go 'south' so I put the larger ailerons on. With travel adjustment made easy on our radios, I can just reduce the throws to 3/8-5/8".
Thanks for asking.
05-06-2010, 12:01 PM
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RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Hi sam its all gone quite hope your install is going well . finally got my bird done and out in the fresh air today ready for sunday going to do some taxi runs and if all well will maiden .have you got to the C of G part yet as ive had to put 1 1/2 lbs of lead up front and the two 6volt battires to balance her .lrt me know your thoughts .heres a few pics cheers aaron
05-06-2010, 08:30 PM
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RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Dremelboy,
She looks 'mighty fine'.
No time to work on her as all week, I've been PM'ing my planes and trailer for Joe Nall.
I'm figuring my CG will be close as I'm using two heavy G-62's and two large 5000 MA batteries up front.
Post videos.
She looks 'mighty fine'.
No time to work on her as all week, I've been PM'ing my planes and trailer for Joe Nall.
I'm figuring my CG will be close as I'm using two heavy G-62's and two large 5000 MA batteries up front.
Post videos.
06-03-2010, 05:14 PM
#448
RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Assembly
Decals for the F4U haven't arrived yet so I started back on the P-61.
Everything has to be tested from the receivers so the receiver tray was first installed over the center wing. Two JR power safe receivers will be used. Initially, I was going to use 3K ma battery packs but using four will take up a lot of room so I'm opting for 2700 ma packs as they are going in the nose for weight.
pic 1:
Put a flat spot on the nose wheel shaft where the steering arm set screw is located.
pic 2:
Service tray on center wing.
Supports epoxied to wing but tray has six hex head servo screws.
pic 3:
two power safe receivers, UP-3 (gear/door) and UP-6(brakes) dry fitted on tray.
pic 4:
Holes drilled in formers to run wires to the nose.
The nose will be the access for switches/air/etc.
pic 5:
Nose gear steering servo (hs-645) mounted.
pic 6:
extra tray glued to nose to hold the batteries.
pic 7:
Decals finally arrived.
These look like dry transfer (still have to read the instructions).
One set for the F4U, one for the P-47 and two generic sheets.
pic 8:
One of the generic sheets will be used on the P-61.
Decals for the F4U haven't arrived yet so I started back on the P-61.
Everything has to be tested from the receivers so the receiver tray was first installed over the center wing. Two JR power safe receivers will be used. Initially, I was going to use 3K ma battery packs but using four will take up a lot of room so I'm opting for 2700 ma packs as they are going in the nose for weight.
pic 1:
Put a flat spot on the nose wheel shaft where the steering arm set screw is located.
pic 2:
Service tray on center wing.
Supports epoxied to wing but tray has six hex head servo screws.
pic 3:
two power safe receivers, UP-3 (gear/door) and UP-6(brakes) dry fitted on tray.
pic 4:
Holes drilled in formers to run wires to the nose.
The nose will be the access for switches/air/etc.
pic 5:
Nose gear steering servo (hs-645) mounted.
pic 6:
extra tray glued to nose to hold the batteries.
pic 7:
Decals finally arrived.
These look like dry transfer (still have to read the instructions).
One set for the F4U, one for the P-47 and two generic sheets.
pic 8:
One of the generic sheets will be used on the P-61.
06-07-2010, 08:54 PM
#449
RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Assembly (cont)
Got a few things done today:
A storm destroyed my two pop up canopies so I cannibalized one to fix the other (should have taken the covers off them at night!).
Control panel.
pic 1:
Four battery packs strapped into the nose.
pic 2:
Counter clock wise:
brake fill/pressure gauge
gear/door fill/pressure gauge
two on/off switches for two receivers
landing light switch
nav light switch
battery check switch (behind nav light switch)
four charging jacks.
Got a few things done today:
A storm destroyed my two pop up canopies so I cannibalized one to fix the other (should have taken the covers off them at night!).
Control panel.
pic 1:
Four battery packs strapped into the nose.
pic 2:
Counter clock wise:
brake fill/pressure gauge
gear/door fill/pressure gauge
two on/off switches for two receivers
landing light switch
nav light switch
battery check switch (behind nav light switch)
four charging jacks.
06-08-2010, 01:40 PM
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RE: ZIROLI P-61 BLACK WIDOW BUILD
Sam thats the pefect spot for batteries - your CG should come in real close.
I did the same thing and still had to add some led. The led compensated for the 2 elevator servos which I also moved into the horizontal stab vs. trying to manage a long control rods and linkages.
Nice layout for the switches etc...
I did the same thing and still had to add some led. The led compensated for the 2 elevator servos which I also moved into the horizontal stab vs. trying to manage a long control rods and linkages.
Nice layout for the switches etc...