Ernie P.

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How about the Swoose Goose? Thanks; Ernie P.


The Vultee XP-54 Swoose Goose was a prototype fighter built by the Vultee Aircraft Company for the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF).

Vultee had submitted a proposal in response to a U.S. Army Air Corps request for an unusual configuration. The Vultee design won the competition, beating the Curtiss XP-55 Ascender and the Northrop XP-56 Black Bullet. Vultee designated it Model 84, a descendant of their earlier Model 78. After completing preliminary engineering and wind tunnel tests, a contract for a prototype was awarded on 8 January 1941. A second prototype was ordered on 17 March 1942. Although it appeared to be a radical design, its actual performance was lackluster and the project was subsequently canceled.

The XP-54 was designed with a pusher engine in the aft part of the fuselage. The tail was mounted rearward between two mid-wing booms, with the 12-ft propeller between them.

The design included a "ducted wing section" developed by the NACA that enabled installation of cooling radiators and intercoolers in the inverted gull wing. The Pratt & Whitney X-1800 engine was initially proposed as the powerplant but after its development was discontinued, the liquid-cooled Lycoming XH-2470 was substituted.
In September 1941, the XP-54 mission was changed from low altitude to high altitude interception. Consequently, a turbo-supercharger and heavier armor had to be added, and the estimated empty weight increased from 11,500 to 18,000 lb (5,200 to 8,200 kg).

The XP-54 was unique in numerous ways. The pressurized cockpit required a complex entry system: the pilot’s seat acted as an elevator for cockpit access from the ground. The pilot lowered the seat electrically, sat in it, and raised it into the cockpit. Bail-out procedure was complicated by the pressurization system and necessitated a downward ejection of the pilot and seat in order to clear the propeller arc.[1] Also, the nose section could pivot through the vertical, three degrees up and six degrees down. In the nose, two 37 mm T-9 cannon were in rigid mounts while two .50 cal machine guns were in movable mounts. Movement of the nose and machine guns was controlled by a special compensating gun sight. Thus, the cannon trajectory could be elevated without altering the flight attitude of the airplane. The large nose section gave rise to its whimsical nickname, the Swoose Goose, inspired by a song about Alexander who was half swan and half goose: "Alexander was a swoose."

Flight tests of the first prototype, 41-1210, began on 15 January 1943. Initial trials showed performance substantially below guarantees. At the same time, development of the XH-2470 engine was discontinued and, although it appeared possible to substitute the Allison V-3420 engine without substantial airframe changes, the projected delay and costs resulted in a decision not to consider production buys.

The prototypes continued to be used in an experimental program until problems with the Lycoming engines and lack of spare parts caused termination. The second prototype, 42-108994 (but mistakenly painted as 42-1211) equipped with an experimental GE supercharger, only made one flight before it was relegated to a "parts plane" in order to keep the first prototype in the air.

adavis

D.H. Venom?

Best Regards,
=Adrian=

MajorTomski

Again, nope not those two either

Please name for me a combat aircraft which

Single engine

Single seat

Stared life as a stop gap design to facilitate rapid deployment.

Was designed to use a yet to be proven, largest engine designed to that point.

The original design concept, did not provide the desired performance so the aircraft was completely redesigned but it looked almost identical to the original.

The design could have been interpreted as an effort in Army-Navy cooperation.

MajorTomski

Either you're all busy or I'm actually stumping you!

For your Friday morning mental exercises

Please name for me a combat aircraft which

Single engine

Single seat

Stared life as a stop gap design to facilitate rapid deployment.

Was designed to use a yet to be proven, largest engine designed to that point.

The original design concept, did not provide the desired performance so the aircraft was completely redesigned but it looked almost identical to the original.

The design could have been interpreted as an effort in Army-Navy cooperation.

It had major components that were common to other aircraft. (wink wink nudge nudge. Know what I mean?)

adavis

AV-8/Harrier?

Best Regards,
=Adrian=

racer639

XP-75 Eagle?

MajorTomski

DING DING DING WE have a WINNER!

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/fac...et.asp?id=8754

Take us to the weekend Racer!

Ernie P.

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MajorTomski; you still with us? It's been 2-1/2 days since your last post. Thanks; Ernie P.

Ernie P.

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My apologies, MajorTomski. The last couple of messages didn't show up until I posted my (mistaken) message. I don't know what's been happening lately, but I don't always see the last couple of messages. Again; my apologies. Thanks; Ernie P.

perttime

Quite often, when the latest messages are on a new page, I don't see a link to that page until I'm in the thread itself.

Looks like we are waiting for racer639

Ernie P.

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You are up, racer639; and it is your turn to ask a question. Thanks; Ernie P.

racer639

Im not going to have access to the net for a couple of weeks because of travel so I'll have to pass to someone else thanks

Rick

Ernie P.

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Racer639 is going to be offline for a while, so the floor is open. First one to post their question has the conch shell. If no one posts anything by tomorrow morning, I'll pose a question; but I'd really rather some one else give it a go. Thanks; Ernie P.

zippome

I'll Have a go Ernie!

1. Originally developed as part of a line of airliners to fill a specific niche in the market. But bad timing meant that only 5 civilian models were ever delivered.
2. The first production aircraft of the military version crashed before delivery.
3. Production was limited by the need for a much more famous miltary aircraft.

Thanks Zip.

MajorTomski

Douglas DC-5

zippome

Wow, That didnt last long.
You're Up Major Tomski!
Thanks ,
Zip!
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Douglas_R3D-2.jpg

For a limited production aircraft, it had some unsual adventures. From serving in the Marine corps, to carrying refugees to one being captured by the japanese and used by the imperial Japanese Army . To one example even being used as a bomber by the Israelis.

MajorTomski

Ok, please name for me a post-war aircraft which

Is twin engined

High winged

Has twin tails.

Was specificed by one country, the prototype was built in another and production finially settled in a third country.

MajorTomski

Ok, please name for me a post-war aircraft which

Is twin engined

High winged

Has twin tails.

Was specificed by one country, the prototype was built in another and production finially settled in a third country.

It's civilan version is a 19 seat airliner.

JohnnyS

Short Skyvan?

MajorTomski

Close but no cigar

Ok, please name for me a post-war aircraft which

Is twin engined

High winged

Has twin tails.

Was specificed by one country, the prototype was built in another and production finially settled in a third country.

It's civilan version is a 19 seat airliner.

It has always been turbo prop powered, but the country of origin of the engines has chaged.

zippome

How about  the C-23 Short Sherpa?
Thanks
Zip

MajorTomski

Well the sherpa is a derriviative of the skyvan so Nope


Close but no cigar

Ok, please name for me a post-war aircraft which

Is twin engined

High winged

Has twin tails.

Was specificed by one country, the prototype was built in another and production finially settled in a third country.

It's civilan version is a 19 seat airliner.

It has always been turbo prop powered, but the country of origin of the engines has chaged.

The aircraft currently serves in the Air Force and Navy of the country that it is manufactured in.

naval flight officer

Antonov An-28/ PZL M28?

MajorTomski

CORRECT! Well Done!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_M28

naval flight officer

Cool! Here it goes last time it took one post to figure me out.

Name for me...

1. name was an homage to an earlier aircraft

2. a naval acquisition program but marketed to the airforce as well.