Ernie P.

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Okay, guys; I don't want to jam things up too long. The *key* hint is below.

What was the first fighter aircraft to fly using liquid rocket power?

Hint: Read the question.

Hint 2: Read the question again.

Hint 3: Read the question again.

Hint 4: Look for a fighter type modified to carry a liquid fueled rocket motor. It was a test bed, to test the engine; and prove the concept of an impulse engine would work.

Thanks; Ernie P.

blackrapids

You did not state manned or unmanned, does not neccessarily have to be manned to be a fighter, and what is "power" fuel, propellant, gasoline,etc. In other words is thisdefinitive or your interpretation. Gasolinewas used as a propellant for rockets in early years so the Fokker E1 monoplane could have been the firstpure fighter to have been powered by "rocket power".

wingspar

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I hate these dead giveaway questions.

Dave

Experten109/40

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As of 2010, it remains the only rocket-powered fighter aircraft to have ever been operational

blackrapids

He-112may have been the first fighter, there was a trainer also He-72

Ernie P.

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It was a manned fighter; a fairly well known fighter type; and it was flown under the power of what we would all agree was a liquid fueled rocket engine; a type of engine not very much different than the one that later flew the He-176 and Me-163. Before designing purpose built rocket fighters, it would make sense to test the very concept, wouldn't it? To make sure an aircraft could actually fly with a rocket engine? And to make sure the rocket engine you had could actually power a plane? Well, that's exactly what they did! The took an existing fighter plane and hung a rocket engine on it. And, it flew; with the rocket engine providing the power. Read the question. Thanks; Ernie P.

Experten109/40

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yah well some idiot strapped a couple of VTOL rockers to a 67 Impala.. but that dosn't mean it'll
go to the moon.

I assumed 'operational' 'flew in combat' & and engaged in combat.. not one off things.

Ernie P.

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Yeah; ain't they a scream? But this one very well could have been a dead giveaway. It's not my fault people don't read the question. And that they don't read far enough when they do research. Thanks; Ernie P.

Ernie P.

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Please read the question. I said it was a fighter. It was operational. It flew in combat. I never said it was operational *as a rocket powered plane*. Thanks; Ernie P.

What was the first fighter aircraft to fly using liquid rocket power?

Hint: Read the question.

Hint 2: Read the question again.

Hint 3: Read the question again.

Hint 4: Look for a fighter type modified to carry a liquid fueled rocket motor. It was a test bed, to test the engine; and prove the concept of an impulse engine would work.

Thanks; Ernie P.

Experten109/40

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k well i'm retarded then.it usedfuel of hydrazine hydrate and methanol.
I await your answer on this EXPERIMENTAL aircraft.

Ernie P.

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You are all over the answer. Before they built a dedicated rocket powered fighter, they tested the concept. Please expand on your answer. Tell you what; I think I'm going to give it to you. It really isn't my intent to tie things up in a knot. And you do have 90% of the answer. It wasn't the He-112; but it was the He-112R. You have the gavel. Please post your question. Thanks; Ernie P.

For all the rest of you: Go to Wikipedia. Type in He-176; as several of you obviously did. It will tell you the He-176 was the first plane to fly as a solely rocket powered aircraft, in 1939. Only Hitler's moratorium on any aircraft that could not be ready for production in one year prevented Heinkel from continuing development of this promising fighter prototype.

But, if you scroll down a page or two; it will tell you two He-112 fighters were modified to carry a prototype rocket engine, to test the theory that a plane could fly under rocket power. Remember, this had never been done before; and some people didn't believe a rocket plane would be able to fly without tumbling through the air.

Click on the "He-112" link and you will find the history of the Heinkel He-112 fighter. Scroll down a few pages and you will find reference to the "He-112R". It will describe how a standard He-112 airframe was modified to carry a liquid rocket engine. The plane took off using its piston engine, climbed to altitude, shut off the piston engine, ignited the rocket engine, and flew under rocket power. The plane landed with the gear up and on fire. But it proved a rocket power aircraft could actually fly. And that had never been done before. It was a fighter aircraft; and it flew using liquid rocket power. Question answered.

As I said; for those who don't know the history, it might be interesting.

wingspar

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Wow, I learned something today. Good question.

Ernie P.

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Thanks. I hope you agree I did not mis-state the question. The He-112 was a fighter; and it was the first to fly using a liquid rocket engine. I figured the immediate response would be the Me-163; and when I said "no", some one would hit Wikipedia and look up the He-176; to verify their answer. Simply reading a few pages would have answered the question almost immediately. I really was surprised it took so long. Thanks; Ernie P.

What was the first fighter aircraft to fly using liquid rocket power?

Hint: Read the question.

Hint 2: Read the question again.

Hint 3: Read the question again.

Hint 4: Look for a fighter type modified to carry a liquid fueled rocket motor. It was a test bed, to test the engine; and prove the concept of an impulse engine would work.

Thanks; Ernie P.

Ernie P.

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Sorry, I'm not following you. Who was killed? Thanks; Ernie P.

Experten109/40

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dick bong I think he's refering too.

uncljoe

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I believe its Joe Kennedy, he and an enlisted man Wilford Willy were killed in an radio controlled PB4Y (Naval ver.) of a B 24.
When the plane was armed it blew up . (At this time an a/c was loaded with explosives and was required to be flown near the target,then the crew would parachute ,with the controlling aircraft(B 17) left to guide it to the target .
Semper Fi
Joe

daleflysrc

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Bong was killed testing the P-80, the same day we dropped the 1st A Bomb !! He forgot to turn on the boost pump before takeoff and flamed out to low to jump !!

daleflysrc

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I fly with an old gentelman who was flying the R/C B-17s durring and after the war !!

Ram-bro

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was it an me-109

blackrapids

Thanks, That was a very good question and kept me busy for a while. I did not catch the R model designation. Ok here is my question.To what WWIIgroup/squadronsdid this patch belong to and which aircraft did they fly. Thanks, Brian

proptop

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I believe pandora is answering the question on page 1
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_94..._1/key_/tm.htm

It's happened a couple of times...a new guy clicks on the header of this thread title...gets page 1, but doesn't realize that there are 49 more pages...

proptop

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The Black Cats? PBY Catalina?

blackrapids

No that is not correct. They did have a nickname that would be a bonus if anybody gets that. I am looking for the specific numbersfor example91stbomb group 332nd squadron.

Ram-bro

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hey what happened to the other question? Where did blackrapids come from? Calgon take me away

P-51B

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See post 1236 before you stay in that bubble bath too long...