BUSA D-VII BUILD @ EAA 2010
05-10-2011, 07:49 PM
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RE: BUSA D-VII BUILD @ EAA 2010
Ordered some HiTec 645's to replace my DS 821 servos, several advised that the 821 might fail in a large gas powered plane like the D-VII. Started covering the fuselage this afternoon, have the two coats of nitrate on and one coat of butyrate so far. It was stated that Spectrum recommends using a 6 volt battery but the still supply a 4.8 with their flight packs, go figure.
05-10-2011, 08:38 PM
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I don't mean to be a spoil-sport or anything like that, but...If you look carefully at your documentation you will find that the fuselage was covered with something like a big bag, joined along the the bottom of the fuselage centreline. This means that the fabric pattern is unbroken around the fuselage except where the bottom laces and the fabric is sewn together to make it wide enough to go around the fuselage. It wasn't done in four pieces, more like two. The reason, of course, was to be able to unlace it to do any internal repair/inspection that may be required. Just FWIW.
Evan, WB #12.
Evan, WB #12.
05-11-2011, 03:07 PM
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ORIGINAL: JBryson
Ordered some HiTec 645's to replace my DS 821 servos, several advised that the 821 might fail in a large gas powered plane like the D-VII. Started covering the fuselage this afternoon, have the two coats of nitrate on and one coat of butyrate so far. It was stated that Spectrum recommends using a 6 volt battery but the still supply a 4.8 with their flight packs, go figure.
Ordered some HiTec 645's to replace my DS 821 servos, several advised that the 821 might fail in a large gas powered plane like the D-VII. Started covering the fuselage this afternoon, have the two coats of nitrate on and one coat of butyrate so far. It was stated that Spectrum recommends using a 6 volt battery but the still supply a 4.8 with their flight packs, go figure.
Ya I could never figure why they include power robbing digital servos and then supply a small capacity 4.8 pack to run them. Although it's probably fine for smaller planes.
That lozenge on the fuse looks great.
05-11-2011, 08:14 PM
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I don't mean to be a spoil-sport or anything like that, but...If you look carefully at your documentation you will find that the fuselage was covered with something like a big bag, joined along the the bottom of the fuselage centreline. This means that the fabric pattern is unbroken around the fuselage except where the bottom laces and the fabric is sewn together to make it wide enough to go around the fuselage. It wasn't done in four pieces, more like two. The reason, of course, was to be able to unlace it to do any internal repair/inspection that may be required. Just FWIW.
Evan, WB #12.
I don't mean to be a spoil-sport or anything like that, but...If you look carefully at your documentation you will find that the fuselage was covered with something like a big bag, joined along the the bottom of the fuselage centreline. This means that the fabric pattern is unbroken around the fuselage except where the bottom laces and the fabric is sewn together to make it wide enough to go around the fuselage. It wasn't done in four pieces, more like two. The reason, of course, was to be able to unlace it to do any internal repair/inspection that may be required. Just FWIW.
Evan, WB #12.
05-12-2011, 05:48 AM
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Looks really nice Warbird Man. I agree Vertical, the side and top fabric don't seem to match up on the Brome Co. museum plane to me, sure the lacing would give you access to the control cables but the doped fabric would be quite stiff and hard to remove in one piece.
05-13-2011, 05:39 AM
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Warbird Man,
Your bird sure looks outstanding. I love your exhaust and clean look. GREAT Work. Are you planing on painting a weathering look at the end or keep her sharp and brand new?
Great job.
Your bird sure looks outstanding. I love your exhaust and clean look. GREAT Work. Are you planing on painting a weathering look at the end or keep her sharp and brand new?
Great job.
05-13-2011, 06:47 AM
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Warbird Man; Did ya use ca or epoxy to attach your tail group? Getting ready to put mine on and want to do it right, would not be good if it came off in mid air!
05-13-2011, 07:30 AM
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I would also like to say how great a job you guys are doing. These are some greta looking Fokkers. Awesome! Too bad we could not get them all together some how. I would pull mine out of retirement for that one formation flight.
05-13-2011, 09:27 AM
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JB,
I used 30 min epoxy to glue down the horizontal stab. I think it's much stronger than CA, will give you more time to make fine adjustments and you won't burn your eyes out as it would take alot of CA to glue it down. I also installed the 3 suggested dowel pins in the vertical stab down through the horzontal stab and into the base stab platform for extra strength as there is not much surface area on the vertical to glue to.
Thanks Michael.
I plan on keeping it new and clean for now as I'm just trying to get it done and off the bench so I can get back to my previous projects.
Vertical,
Ya that would be nice. I was hoping to make it out to WOTR this year but there is just too much on the schedule this summer. Plus the cost of gas right now is just beyond ridiculous.[:@]
I used 30 min epoxy to glue down the horizontal stab. I think it's much stronger than CA, will give you more time to make fine adjustments and you won't burn your eyes out as it would take alot of CA to glue it down. I also installed the 3 suggested dowel pins in the vertical stab down through the horzontal stab and into the base stab platform for extra strength as there is not much surface area on the vertical to glue to.
Thanks Michael.
I plan on keeping it new and clean for now as I'm just trying to get it done and off the bench so I can get back to my previous projects.
Vertical,
Ya that would be nice. I was hoping to make it out to WOTR this year but there is just too much on the schedule this summer. Plus the cost of gas right now is just beyond ridiculous.[:@]
05-13-2011, 10:04 AM
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Thanks for the help Warbird Man, I also will be using the dowels. Would be neat to have all these Fokkers together some day. By the way, did you use epoxy for your side panels also?
05-13-2011, 08:04 PM
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Yes. Although it's a good idea to scuff up the metal abit so the glue has something to grab on to.
I like to use that foam rubber type stuff to incase my fuel tank, battery and RX. It's good vibration absorbing material. Same stuff you find it in gun and TX cases as well as packaging for certian fragile items. It keeps everything nice and snug.
I like to use that foam rubber type stuff to incase my fuel tank, battery and RX. It's good vibration absorbing material. Same stuff you find it in gun and TX cases as well as packaging for certian fragile items. It keeps everything nice and snug.
05-14-2011, 05:04 AM
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Warbird Man, Looks NICE! 
Hey Vertical grimmace, ship it out to me and I will line it up with all of them at Warbirds and classics over the Midwest. http://www.fdlaa.com/
I might even ship it back. LOL
Hey Vertical grimmace, ship it out to me and I will line it up with all of them at Warbirds and classics over the Midwest. http://www.fdlaa.com/I might even ship it back. LOL
05-14-2011, 04:38 PM
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Just figures doesn't it - rained all day today and they're forcasting more of it here in Ontario into Wednesday! One of our fields is on a river floodplain so I hope it won't be flooded out.
Jeff - I see you are just below St. Paul, I was out in Eau Claire and St. Cloud last summer with our trailer, beautiful country, actually reminds me a lot of my area here in Kitchener. Warbirdman I see you are a bit closer up there in Hortonville. Michael, Vertical and JB well California, Colorado and Texas are a little further but Michael you have a trailer too...
This get together may be do-able. So we should seriously consider this for sometime this summer that is if you don't mind me flyin' a wee little 1/5th fokker beside you all!
I also cordially invite you all to our KW Flying Dutchmen September 9-12th Scale Rally here in Kitchener, we could use a greater WWI warbird contingent. It's a great time, lots of camping, BBQs, corn roast, lots of flying and an all round entertaining good time. Check it out at:
[link]http://www.kwflyingdutchmen.com/scalerally.html[/link]
I'm having quite some trouble with plastering lozenge tissue overtop of the plastic film on my H9 Fokker without it wrinkling, and I really just want to get it up into the sky, so I will adopt a somewhat modified colour scheme for my wings - might as well work on it this weekend as the rain keeps pouring down!
Cheers,
Brian
Jeff - I see you are just below St. Paul, I was out in Eau Claire and St. Cloud last summer with our trailer, beautiful country, actually reminds me a lot of my area here in Kitchener. Warbirdman I see you are a bit closer up there in Hortonville. Michael, Vertical and JB well California, Colorado and Texas are a little further but Michael you have a trailer too...
This get together may be do-able. So we should seriously consider this for sometime this summer that is if you don't mind me flyin' a wee little 1/5th fokker beside you all!
I also cordially invite you all to our KW Flying Dutchmen September 9-12th Scale Rally here in Kitchener, we could use a greater WWI warbird contingent. It's a great time, lots of camping, BBQs, corn roast, lots of flying and an all round entertaining good time. Check it out at:
[link]http://www.kwflyingdutchmen.com/scalerally.html[/link]
I'm having quite some trouble with plastering lozenge tissue overtop of the plastic film on my H9 Fokker without it wrinkling, and I really just want to get it up into the sky, so I will adopt a somewhat modified colour scheme for my wings - might as well work on it this weekend as the rain keeps pouring down!
Cheers,
Brian
05-15-2011, 07:49 AM
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Iv'e never been able to find some decent cockpit coaming that isn't black. Usually I just use some vacuum hose or something but never liked the black color. So after thinking about this for a few weeks I decided to dig out some buck skin hides I had stored away and try an attempt to sew on some real leather over the plastic coaming.
Again the flourecent lighting is very bright in my shop and the acorn color hide is alittle light and the pilot isn't done, but it looks much better than the black plastic one I had on it.
Again the flourecent lighting is very bright in my shop and the acorn color hide is alittle light and the pilot isn't done, but it looks much better than the black plastic one I had on it.
05-15-2011, 08:46 AM
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Warbirdman - now there's a fine looking cockpit combing you have now! The buckskin leather did the job, you just can't beat the look of the real thing can you. I think the lighter leather actually compliments the yellow/gold of the stag which looks awesome.
It's coming along real nicely now.
Brian
It's coming along real nicely now.
Brian
05-15-2011, 06:10 PM
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flying fox, you know as far as I am concerned, 1/5 scale, 1/4 scale, 1/3 1/6 whatever, its all good, just get it in the air and have fun. I have no problem with the size of another persons plane. All you have to do is get the camera angle right and they all look the same. 
Warbird man. I wish I had thought of that. I will do that on my Albatross build.........someday.
Warbird man. I wish I had thought of that. I will do that on my Albatross build.........someday.
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Thanks Jeff. I have solved my lozenge problem!
I gave up on tissue and tried Silkspan instead. Printed lozenge colours onto 8.5x11" silkspan - then sprayed the printed lozenge side of silkspan with oil-based varathane to seal in the ink - then applied silkspan to wings (white primer over plastic film covering) with water-based polycrylic. Silkspan is stronger and can be manipulated to remove any wrinkles as you apply it.
I will only apply lozenge to the outer panels of the wing, center section will be black with white stripes on borders.
So glad a little perserverance and experimentation paid off as I really wanted lozenge on my H9 bashed Fokker DVII.
Cheers
Brian
I gave up on tissue and tried Silkspan instead. Printed lozenge colours onto 8.5x11" silkspan - then sprayed the printed lozenge side of silkspan with oil-based varathane to seal in the ink - then applied silkspan to wings (white primer over plastic film covering) with water-based polycrylic. Silkspan is stronger and can be manipulated to remove any wrinkles as you apply it.
I will only apply lozenge to the outer panels of the wing, center section will be black with white stripes on borders.
So glad a little perserverance and experimentation paid off as I really wanted lozenge on my H9 bashed Fokker DVII.
Cheers
Brian