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Peter_OZ 09-02-2012 01:58 PM

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add me in, i'll get around to building my 96" version one of these days . . .

Ram-bro 09-02-2012 02:21 PM

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#23, I am the Air Jordan of the P40 brotherhood.....I rule:D

Peter_OZ 09-02-2012 02:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: LDM

Well would love to join , my history on the P40 is started as a kid with a Cox 049 powered plastic model .
Then Gulliows , Top Flight Red Box , Pica 1/6 scale P40 , Balsa Products P40, 2 VQ P40ties , CMP 73'' P40 , FMS EPO P40 , LX 79'' EPO P40 I know i missed a few lol .
I just love the plane and its history !!

I just knew you would be in Lou :D

How are you doing mate?

SIMCO 09-02-2012 03:28 PM

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this is how NOT to fly a P-40. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpvoI...6&feature=plcp Guess I will start my 3rd one.

radfordc 09-02-2012 04:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: P-40 DRIVER

One of the things that causes problem in the TF P-40 is that there is so much rollcoupling that if you trim the rudder for high power, it will be out of trim and roll when you pull the power off ie landing.
This was also a characteristic of the full size P-40. Pilots said that they had to stand on the right rudder pedal in a dive!

Scott Geller 09-02-2012 05:11 PM

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Hey Guys,

I've always loved the P-40. Here is one I built a few years ago and she still fly's great.

Skyshark P-40 82"
DLE-55
Functional exhaust
Sierra Retracts including tailwheel


Scott

P.S. WARBIRDRCER please add me to the brotherhood! Thanks Scott Geller Andover, NJ

Chad Veich 09-02-2012 06:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: P-40 DRIVER
Long nose, alot of dihedral and a small tail does make it interesting. Did you try a mix to help with roll coupling or just ride it out with your thumbs. I think using the Curtiss fix of lengthing the fuselage would not be bad idea and bring the dihedral down to 4 degrees would help also. A little more washout would help as well. I think the main lesson with the P-40 was keep it away from a stall at all costs. Mine was very nose heavy and still had a vicious stall.
I never got around to playing with any mixing on the ailerons. It was on my "to do" list but unfortunately a bad RX switch put an end to my P-40 after about a dozen flights or so. I was still a long way from getting it really dialed in. Mine was pretty vicious at the stall as well but what surprised me was just how slow it could be flown without stalling. With all the bad press associated with the airplane I was not expecting that at all. (Mine was relatively light, maybe 10.5 or 11 pounds at most) Regarding the washout I wonder if the ARF version has a bit more since it does not seem to be garnering the same bad reputation as the kit version.

Peter_OZ 09-02-2012 06:14 PM

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I had a TF P40 I aquired back in 2000. It had a OS FS120 pumper in it and flew quite well, had a JR gyro on rudder that I had slaved to the retracts, retracts up gyro @ zero gain. Worked well.
It was very light, 9 1/2lbs

Broke the wing after a forced dead stick into some rough stuff, built a new wing but only lasted 2 flights, spun in doing some stall tests. Bugger!

Have a 96" Model Design version to build. Glass fuz, foam core wing and build up tail feathers. 3W-75 in the nose. Essentially it is a Ziroli.

WARBIRDRCER 09-02-2012 06:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lifer

My first P-40 was a Cox control-line plane about 1968, or so.

Current P-40's are both Top Flite ARF's. The smaller one has the engine out and has been in the hands of a guy in Illinois for 4 months claiming it cannot be fixed. The bigger one remains a ''Hangar Queen'' til the weather cools down a bit around here.

I don't mind a little roll couple from the rudder. I have lost ailerons on a plane or two and it's good to know I can still get it home.

Sign me up, too! I think I can afford the membership dues!
Welcome to the P-40 Brotherhood #24

WARBIRDRCER 09-02-2012 06:48 PM

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Welcome to the P-40 Brotherhood

Numbers:

25. Peter OZ Queensland, Australia
26. tocstrum NJ, USA

WARBIRDRCER 09-02-2012 06:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: SIMCO

this is how NOT to fly a P-40. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpvoI...6&feature=plcp Guess I will start my 3rd one.
OUCH!

radfordc 09-02-2012 07:39 PM

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unfortunately a bad RX switch put an end to my P-40 after about a dozen flights or so.
I've started using dual battery/switches on all by planes now. Never again do I want to crash due to a bad switch!

barron 09-03-2012 04:56 AM

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Add me please, I have the TF Giant arf on my building table now.:D

P-40 DRIVER 09-03-2012 05:41 AM

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SIMCO, OUCH!, is it rebuildable?, what was the problem, she looked all crossed up in the air?

P-40 DRIVER 09-03-2012 05:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: radfordc




unfortunately a bad RX switch put an end to my P-40 after about a dozen flights or so.
I've started using dual battery/switches on all by planes now. Never again do I want to crash due to a bad switch!

Unfortuately there is no easy way to test a switch except to swap them out when they get some milage on them. Dual batteries in a .60 size plane maybe a bit much, but dual switches, I could see. A five cell pack with dual leads, dual switches and dual leads going into the receiver.

darren763 09-03-2012 06:45 AM

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Please add me to the brotherhood. Will have pics later of my P-40.

Darren

raptureboy 09-03-2012 07:03 AM

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I can testify that the TF.60 size arf is well behaved and I had some real hairy cross wind landings with her. One took about 5 approachs before getting down and then the landing gear collapsed and flipped on her back and nothing broke, save the cowl took a beating from sliding on her chin. Here's some pics from this summers WW2 event in Reading,Pa.

US185Damiani 09-03-2012 08:14 AM

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TF Gold Edition finished 2003 Hundreds of flights. O.S.91 Surpass, Sierra precision P-40 Gear With a Robart Tailwheel, Super Coverite and paint finish

DrYankum 09-03-2012 08:35 AM

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ORIGINAL: SIMCO

this is how NOT to fly a P-40. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpvoI...6&feature=plcp Guess I will start my 3rd one.
Look at 3:12 seconds in and you will see the tailplane is clearly not even with the wings. It's tilted way to the right. I saw it earlier on in the video but thought it was just the camera angle. Amazed that you could keep it airborne.
I had a Ziroli P-40 for a bunch of years. Just recently sold it with Robarts and Sachs 4.2

DrYankum 09-03-2012 08:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: WARBIRDRCER

P-40 Brotherhood
Master Roster
Started 8-30-2012

Brotherhood Update, we now have 20 in our squadron as of 9-1-2012

Welcome to the P-40 Brotherhood

If you would like to join the P-40 Brotherhood please make your request on this thread and I will assign you a number.

Never can tell when you may run into another P-40 Brother somewhere, so join now.

1. Warbirdrcer OK, USA
1.5. Talimena Kidd OK, USA
2. Chad Veich AZ, USA
3. dasintex TX, USA
4. Meschmidt TX, USA
5. gaumflyer Gaum, USA
6. gaumflyer’s Dad Gaum, USA
7. tp777fo SC, USA
8. Dash7ATP VA, USA
9. 77chickenhawk CA, USA
10. ccostant MA, USA
11. Capt G NV, USA
12. RBean PA, USA
13. P-40 Driver TX, USA
14. LQUAN CA, USA
15. raptureboy PA, USA
16. SVX UT, USA
17. AmishWarlord NC, USA
18. Duplicator41 ID, USA
19. gregandhollie IN, USA
20. LDM PA, USA
Sign me up

flypilot 09-03-2012 09:23 AM

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Hi All P-40 fans,
Own one CMP P-40 a while back and just now got into it again with a ESM 50cc P-40..

Going to power it with a RCGF 55cc on a caniter setup as there is plenty of room for it.

Got almost everything I need except the retracts and the spinner. Was going for the electric but no one seem to have them in stock so I might just go with the air instead.. Any thoughts?

Here is the movie of my old CMP eletrified on a frozen lake, model modified with robart retracts, flaps and lots of other small modifications..good flier.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV85E8uqCjY[/youtube]
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DrYankum 09-03-2012 10:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: DrYankum



ORIGINAL: SIMCO

this is how NOT to fly a P-40. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpvoI...6&feature=plcp Guess I will start my 3rd one.
Look at 3:12 seconds in and you will see the tailplane is clearly not even with the wings. It's tilted way to the right. I saw it earlier on in the video but thought it was just the camera angle. Amazed that you could keep it airborne.
I had a Ziroli P-40 for a bunch of years. Just recently sold it with Robarts and Sachs 4.2

at 1:54 of the video it's very evident. The tailplane looks ok; I think the wing hold down is broken

M_Callahan 09-03-2012 11:36 AM

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Hello Steve,

Don't see anybody from Ohio in the brotherhood yet so I am volunteering.

Have a Topflite gold edition kit on the board. Planning on a Saito 100 four-stroke and
Robart retracts.

Mike Callahan

Ram-bro 09-03-2012 11:38 AM

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the owner posted in an earlier thread that his tailplane was not repaired correctly. It was easy to see right at the takeoff

gsmarino2000 09-03-2012 11:54 AM

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I'd like to join. I've always liked P-40's. I currently have a Top Flite Giant Scale with a DA 50 that I have been flying on and off for the past 18 months. It's easy enough to handle in the air, but a bit of a handful on the ground.

Greg


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