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SBR,
TF kits are available but the price will leave you speachless. Most likely well over $700 AUD for a GS kit. Best bet is to start emailing the US hobby shops and see which ones will ship to Oz and how much freight will be. Freight could be as high as $160 USD so watch out for that. Tower won't ship kits to Oz so don't bother with them.

Keep an eye on ebay, especially the US site as TF kits come up all the time. I got the TF GS P47 and a TF P40 that way at really good prices.

Try Rick at MajorHobby in the US, he was pretty helpful last time I was making enquiries and he had some good deals on kits and on the frieght as well.

"Rick" <[email protected]>

best of luck.

cheers
Peter

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thanks, luckely im only after a .60 size

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Ok guys got the belly pan all done and the ZDZ engine installed. Next step is to afix the cowl, a nice fiberglass one from Stans will arrive today. After the cowl is installed its time for the wing saddel, I hate that part, its such a afterthought on the TF kits IMO. Put on triangle stock, glob on filler and sand like hell, O Well. The price you chaps have to pay for kits is out of control, we are spoiled here in the States! Peter get back to work..Last bit, sorry about Bush, hell I did my part to try to change it.
Cheers,
Kirk

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SBR J
Try Hobbyrama up here in Brisbane. They had some on special last time that I was in there. They are allways looking for a quid so make them an offer.
Regards.
Bill Jennings.

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Hobbyrama? man there are way too expensive.

here are some ebay items for the TF GS P47, there is also a TF P40 on ebay as well.

Just do a search on all countries and you will be amazed what pops up

Item number: 5931739828
Item number: 5931506551

cheers
Peter

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thanks ill try it.

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got a little more work done.

main stringers in place and the box type set up behind the firewall plus the rest of the bottom formers.

made a huge boo boo with the formers though. As it said to build F1BL&R, F-2BL&R etc I assumed they were the ones to use - WRONG They become F1B and F2B once glued together. Anyway I eventually re-read the destructions and worked out I was supposed to be using F1 and F2 not F1B and F2B oh well taught me a lesson - never assume anything.

So thee it was with TR glued to LUC & RUC as well as the F1B , F2B and F3 and I'm thinking this does not look right, think LUC and RUC should sit right down on the plans where they meet F1 instead of being about 1cm above the plans.

Maybe I'm dense or was having a blonde day but did anyone else have problems here?

Really though it is a stupid section to be gluing those formers, would think they should be in the sect dealing with the other half the fuz. mumble mumble grumble winge [:@]

Been bidding on ebay of late and have had some luck with digital JR servos, 8231's etc. should be good for this bird

Hope to build a bit more tonight (note how to spell night - not nite - sorry could not help myself). Have to mow the bloody lawn and as i have a nasty chest cold I amy not feel up to doing a lot else besides that.

cheers
Peter

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Got some more work done on the fuz last few days. All the top formers are now in place, cockpit floor in place and have added in the stringers.

Questions for those who have built this bird.

1. Is it easier to remove the flooring for the cockpit now or later in preparation for the full cockpit kit?

2. It says not to fit top and middle stringers from CB to F9 till told to do so - when do you actually fit these anyone know? Had a read through but have missed it.

Have posted some general pics including the blasted formers that gave me the willies!

cheers
PEter

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one more

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Looking good guys. I also am doing the TF Big Jug. Planning on 9th Air Force, 48th Fighter Group (red & white checkered cowl). Your pics are very helpful. Another good source for info is www.web-birds.com.

Gary

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looking goos guys, here is were i'm at with mine, next step is to finish bottom wing sheeting and finish the flap/aielerons planning on using g-62 and SMOKE

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more..made out of gutter flashing

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Peter, I would leave the cockpit floor in untill you have the fuse all sheated. It serves to give the fuse more stability as you build it out. I just finished all the fuse then removed it, not a problem as the floor is scored and pops out with a exacto. The top and middle stringers are glued in after the horizonal stab is glued down. This allows you to place the tail on and get a better measurement of the length to cut the stringers plus the angle to cut the ends so they mate up with the tail. I had the same problem trying to figure out the stringers ! My 47 is all done except the covering! The cowl from Stans fiberglass fit perfect and is a upgrade from the plastic one provided. The one issue is the 1/5 scale radial engine that TF makes is round and will need to be butchered big time to fit in the oblong 47 cowl.
Traveled constantly the last few weeks and slowed down considerably in the build but I hope to have it all covered/painted by x-mas. The good news is my shop is now clean of balsa dust!!
Give us a update on your 47 when you get a chance.
Kirk

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thanks Racer, yours is looking good, well done.

Kirk just got back from sydney, wife and I went down for the Eagles concert. Man Joe Walsh sure can play that gee tarr. Great concert. Now the wife went shopping and $2000 worth of designer clothes and shoes later the credit card is somewhat heavier to carry. but who's complaining I spend that on my planes without even blinking and she is worth it.

Back to Sydney at 0630 tomorrow but on business this time so no building till the weekend.

Thanks for the advice on those stringers and the cockpit. Been toying with the idea of making a movable canopy and using a air ram to the movement. Not sure if it is feasible but fun to think about. Are those glass cowls much better then the plastic one do you think?

anyway have to go put put mr michief in the bath.

cheers
Peter

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Hi Guys,

Here is my result (till now;)) of the Giant TF P-47...

See also my homepage with a lot of pictures of the building process (Text is in Dutch)....

http://home.zonnet.nl/ade_swe/index.html

Alexander

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yes the glass cowls r MUCH better, especially if u order them from stans fibertech, i always buy from him, his stuff is top notch

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Alexander, Thx for the photos, looks like the razorback version, Keep us posted!

Peter- I hear ya on the Eagles, classic rock&roll ! Good move letting the wife spend a little cash, thats worth at least a new plane or two!
The fiberglass cowl from Stans is a great upgrade and saves a whole lot of time. You often need to give him a call well in advance of when you think youll need it as he often lays them up one at a time. Also dont know about shipping, not heavy but a rather large box. Put together the TF cockpit kit tonight, looks OK but will need to add a few additional touches to make it come alive.
Cheers,
Kirk

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great pic alex, keep up the good work.

Kirk, yup love the Eagles - had to laugh at Glen Frey's comments on idol - said it came accross to the US from the UK and now the plaugue has hit our shores. He did thanks us all for flying with the Eagles as he knew we all had a choice - you know the airline pilot spiel - anyway Glen said we could have gone to the Eagles - orrr gone to the Oz idol final gee now wonder which one I would do. EAGLES rock

Joe Walsh did his usual comedy bits but was ably assisted by his helmet cam - had to be there. Anyway back to aeroplanes.

Will check out Stans, be a bit before I'm ready for the cowl. Yeah the cockpit kit is pretty basic but is a good starting point.

anyway off soon to have dinner with my boss

cheers
Peter

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KIRK
in one of your recent post u said u had to butcher the radial engine to fit in the cowl, what do u mean butcher it needs no butchering, the real engine is the same shape, there was a lip on the real one near the bottom of the cowl that covered up the bottom of the engine and directed flow to the oil coolers, check out this site they have alot of scale acc for p-47, and theres is just about the same size, would work perfect, they have a nice dukmmy radial with the cowl chin insert

http://www.aerotechmodels.com/P47.htm

i got my g-62 today, worked a little on mounting it, illed some low spots on fuse, fiberglassed back of gear doors to stregthen them up, started working on rocket pods for bottom of wings, never seen it done on a model so i thought i would be the first, went to lowes and spent 45 minutes ttrying to find something light enough cause the hobby shop doesnt carry 3/4 inch wide tubes, tyhe green one is a little plastic one of one of my models that has a 20 inch span, i just scaled it up to figure out the mine should be 20 inches

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Kirk,
that cowl from Stans - does it have the chin lip built in?

cheers
Peter

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Peter,
No the cowl doesnt have the oil cooler lip, but with a little work you could fab one.

Racer, I also looked at the AeroTech site and looks like they have a lot of good 47 accessories. The TF dummy radial will require that I chop half the cylinder length off. I have used the dummy on the 1/7 AT6 and 47 and they fit fine. Maybe its my engine ZDZ80, but its the same size as the ZDZ 60 and should fit so who knows. At the end of the day 5ft away and you cant tell.

Guys, what type of prop hub are you thinking about? Tru turn has a 2" dia. one that looks good. I have the smaller size TT on my 1/7 47 and it looks great.
Kirk

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Gday Kirk,
been looking at some of those accs too. Quite like the idea of the wing pylons but not sure if they would look too small, same with their dummy prop.

Thought that the cowl may not have the inlet lip but no worries, not hard to make one up.

Not sure on the spinner yet, have heard TT are ok but never seen their products. Let me know if you get one and what you think of it.

cheers
for now

Peter

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i just e-mailed aerotech to get the dimensions on them so i'll let yall know if they will be big enough, they may even require a lil modification on the contour to fit the wing. i have also been working on the actuating arms for the tailwheel gear doors.

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racer, excellent, thanks mate

what type of setup fopr the doors are you using? There was a thread by adsala showing his tail door setup, might save you some time and thought?

cheers
Peter

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oh i have my doors done did almost the same as he did, it's been real cold here and glue is not cooperating. i just got off the phone with aerotech and he said that they would fit perfectly all of his accesories would, probably even the sliding canopy, but i already know how i'm gonna do that. but within the next 2 weeks i will definately be ordering some of his stuff including the wing pylons, has anyone gotten to the step of fitting the canopy, razorback?

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Gday Racer,
no mate no where near the canopy stage - mine will be bubble top anyway. Good news on the accs from areotech - I'm tempted now but $ are low as I have been buying up JR digital servos on ebay. So now I'm poor for a bit!


Still toying with the idea of sliding canopy but one that I can open and close via air ram.

cheers
Peter

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here r some pics, motor is a g-62

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and here r some pics of the cockpit kit that i'm installing.

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cool racer, mate with the mounting of the g62 is that the same template for the mountings as per the kit or did u need to modify it?

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it's the same i used the great planes solations mount, i still need to put 1/4" spacer to get the prop in fornt of the cowl

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thanks for that racer.

one other question. Did you need to move the location for the throttle cable or is it the same as for the US41 shown in the plans?

I don't have my G62 yet so can't measure anything.

cheers
Peter

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i'm probably going to mount the servo somewere on the firewall because the throttle motion in perpendicular to the the motion of the servo and a bellcrank system seems to complicated.

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racer,
ok but is the exit location of the pushrod for the throttle through the firewall as per plans or do you need to reposition it to suit the G62?


hoping to get my G62 early next year. Have spent all my pocket money on digital servos on ebay of late, been picking up some good deals, about 1/2 normal price. Even got a JR matchbox cheap.



cheers
Peter

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peter u been doin any work on your jug, right now i can only do a little at a time, right now i have been working on filling/sanding, ailerons flaps, wing tips, cockpit fit, opening canopy, still working on tailwheel doors, just a lot of misc dreded work lol, should be done building by end of december knock on wood (knocks on head). here r some pics... this plane is friggen hudge, takes up most of my work area.

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At last all the building on mine is done!! The scale cockpit is installed and the cowl aligned. I have finish sanded the entire bird put on Balsa-rite and now time to cover. I know you guys will hate it but Im doing monokote this time, I want this one to be a weekend flyer and will keep the scale details to a minimum. My 1/7 th scale 47 is glassed with all the rivits and weathered etc etc. but just not in the mood for this one. Also got the pits muffler for the ZDZ 80, $120 ouch!! Now just need to add servos and a receiver to my X-mas list and Im in business. Bad news is with all the Job travel the final push to finish will take a few months, but gotta keep the $$$ rolling in. Peter- are you still at it? Haven't seen an update in awhile. Also what are you guys going to do about the tail wheel gear doors? I keep flip flopping between doing them and not.
Kirk

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i'm thinkin of just doing monekote too, but covering it in panels, blasa rite it too, maybe even do rivits and weathering, i dunno, wanna make it a weekend flyer too, keep it light, i'll try and post a pic of m gear doors later having trouble w computer, just glued a piece of 1/8 ply to tailwheel with a ball link in it, alao there is a piece on the door with a ball link, connected with a threaded rod and two plastick ball link female clips.

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Racer,
Would love to see a easy tail wheel door set up! For the mains Im just using a ply cut out attached with the clips sold thru CJM. They arent flush with the wing but about 5/16 raised, hell at 10 feet you cant tell anyway. This plane reguires so much building and sanding Im getting kinda tired of it. I have built at least 10 TF warbirds and this one is no different so I dont know why Im loosing my wind? I know it will all be worth it when it breaks ground for the first time, so I continue to beaver on. What are your thoughts on the decals? I have used after market vinyl on my last few birds and boy do they make a difference.
Cheers
Kirk

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yeah i'm gonna do vynals to from cutting edge graphics, he's a great guy, he did the decals for my dehavilland beaver and turned out pretty friggen good.yeah i'm doin a lot of sanding too lol, my next project is going to be a ziroli dc-3 so can u imagine all the sanding lol.

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here tr some pics of the beaver and the tailwheel doors, youll have to play with the geometry to keep them from binding, i had that trouble, just be prepared to do alittle work

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Racer,
no mate been away for a week on stradbroke island, ralxing fishing and driving up the 20 miles of beach in the urban assault vehicle aka 4WD !!

Have not done a thing to the jug and supposed to be out there getting all the salt and sand off the fourbie before it rusts away though it is rust proofed and has an electronic eps unit fitted.

pic of wife, little bloke and fourbie on straddie

cheers
Peter