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Pippin 08-22-2009 11:14 AM

ESM Fairey Swordfish "Stringbag"
 
It looks like ESM is bringing the legendary Stringbag on the market.

Very cool. I like to play "sink the Italian and French fleet".

K-A 08-22-2009 11:34 AM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Hi, there is also an DO 335 Pfeil on the way for next year:D

BRG K-A

alanc 08-22-2009 01:57 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
We had the cads for this only what seems a short while ago, now, we have the piccys of the first protoype. glad to say, ESM have stuck with the markings we suggested, we at YT have worked hard on this one, hope you all like it, model is 90"plus span,

Pippin 10-17-2009 12:59 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Almost here...

http://shop.lindinger.at/product_inf...ducts_id=82180

MANFRED 10-17-2009 02:54 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
What happened to the Storch they were working on?

alanc 10-17-2009 06:07 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
contact your importer, he will supply you with details, you want TBM models

scalenutz 10-17-2009 06:17 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Alan, Im happy to say that TBM said they will have the swordfish, I have already put in my reservation......... Now about that that Lanc you promised!

alanc 10-18-2009 04:14 AM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Behave:D

Kmot 10-18-2009 11:34 AM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
FAIREY SWORDFISH

Oh, won't that be a beauty! I wonder if the ASP FS-400 radial engine would work on this model?

OldFart1 11-04-2009 02:45 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 


ORIGINAL: scalenutz

Alan, Im happy to say that TBM said they will have the swordfish, I have already put in my reservation......... Now about that that Lanc you promised!
TBM said they'd have a Nieuport 28 too, then it vanished......

I put my reservation in with Tomas at VQ Warbirds. Now, to hunt down a DL55........ [>:]

STUKA BARRY 11-04-2009 08:34 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 


ORIGINAL: alanc

We had the cads for this only what seems a short while ago, now, we have the piccys of the first protoype. glad to say, ESM have stuck with the markings we suggested, we at YT have worked hard on this one, hope you all like it, model is 90''plus span,
A 90" biplane!! Very cool!!This thing will be BIG. A Zenoah GT-80 ought to fly this bird very scale. When is it do out? I'm very interested.

rgm762 11-04-2009 09:11 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Alan: any idea how the wing set up will be like? I mean will it be easy to transport?

nemesis4u 11-04-2009 10:36 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
I don't want to step in and say anything about the wing transportation....

I know Sym or Alan will say exactly how it goes....
Gents... here is the direct link for your reservations...

http://www.vqwarbirds.com/products/a...ESMSWDFSH.html

-CHEERS!

TOMAS
VQ WARBIRDS
"KEEP 'EM FLYING"
www.vqwarbirds.com
[email protected]

slyms 11-05-2009 08:27 AM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Tomas, just noticed on your post that you are a keen tank modeller, may I ask what scale as both myself and Wilson are tank crazy!

Sym.

nemesis4u 11-05-2009 10:37 AM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Sym & Wilson...

Not to side track this thread.... (BUT YOU ASKED :D;) and I love tanks! )

I belong to the TEXAS ARMOR ASSOCIATION an R/C TANK CLUB that utilize the 1.16 Tamiya Full Function Tanks with the Tamiya Battle Units/Systems for InfraRed Combat. We made a 7200 sqft outdoor battlefield complete with Running G Scale Train in WWII German Markings, BIG TUNNEL, Working Waterfall with running river that is over 100ft long, we have an industrial area, petroleum reserve area, a city/town, a Forward AIRFIELD, and hills, forrests, bridges, smoking buildings... WE have Axis vs Allies and mixed battles ONCE per month... it is so much fun.... you really get "INTO" the battles.. and it is great on really windy days where you can't fly...you can always battle with the tanks! Plus these tanks are so scale , and large but still can be put on most bookshelves as static models... or on your desk at work as a large file/paper weight! HAHAHA!
It is great fun.... Check out our video from our September event here:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq7cOwLh1_Y[/youtube]

Some photos of our battleday and information about our field/club and links to more photos can be seen here:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_88..._1/key_/tm.htm

-Post some messages there on that thread and we can chat up the tanks!

-CHEERS!

TOMAS
VQ WARBIRDS
TX ARMOR
www.bomberfieldusa.com
www.vqwarbirds.com
www.warbirdradio.com
"KEEP 'EM FLYING"

nemesis4u 11-05-2009 11:54 AM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
OK...

Here is the official answer... thanks to our friends across the pond ;)

The swordfish has been designed so that the wings come off in pairs, fully rigged. After examining how a lot of the scale guys do it this seemed the simplest answer to an awkward problem. Easier to transport complete left and right hand sections then just plug them into the body at the field, easy! The model is based on the Mk I W5856 'City of Leeds' from the Royal Navy Historic Flight...

IF you gents look at these links you will see the fullscale and the model... pretty darn close!
Fullscale: http://vqwarbirds.com/images/aircraf...swordfish5.jpg
model: http://vqwarbirds.com/images/aircraf...swordfish1.jpg

=ENJOY!

TOMAS
VQ WARBIRDS
"KEEP 'EM FLYING"
www.vqwarbirds.com
[email protected]

rgm762 11-05-2009 05:56 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Thanks Tomas, really appreciate all the effort you put out for us

rgm762 11-05-2009 08:16 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Tomas or Alan: sorry to be a pain, but one more question, is that a functional strut i see on the landing gear?

SunShyne 11-05-2009 09:43 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
what a beautiful bird. My 2 cents for this model would be:

- nicer wheels
- pilots in the cockpit

look forward to seeing this, would make a great addition to my P-6 :)

Ram-bro 11-05-2009 10:36 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Kmot as usual you ask the right questions. It says it will be around the 22lb range and will fly off of a 180.....The magnum will definietly have more than enuff power.

ramcfarland 11-05-2009 11:12 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 


ORIGINAL: Pippin

It looks like ESM is bringing the legendary Stringbag on the market.

Very cool. I like to play ''sink the Italian and French fleet''.

Yes however it brought about the sinking of the Bismark and well .....[&o]

The BISMARCK saga impressed me as a youth back in 1963/64 the year I saw the movie and read the book "Sink the Bismark and ,well,had to accept that a lucky hit on a last ditch mission the ESM Stringbag squadren got thru[8D] and lucky too for the allied convoys operating in the Bismarcks range.

Well an aluminum color doped stringbag with British roundels, a radial, two open cockpits and a torpedo seems like the makings of a true War bird!


rgm762 11-05-2009 11:12 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 


ORIGINAL: rgm762

Tomas or Alan: sorry to be a pain, but one more question, is that a functional strut i see on the landing gear?
got a response from Herlin at esm, he say's "sure"

slyms 11-06-2009 07:21 AM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Below are the later pictures with the model completely finished as per kit. I've also included a close up CAD pic to show how the cockpit area is recessed for a more scale like appearance. ESM's mindset is to give the customer the basic canvas with the option to improve where needed to keep the prices more affordable. For instance the wheels on the Swordfish are standard ESM units, mainly because there just isn't another affordable option in China to replace them. The new larger Spit will have wheel wells in the wings to allow the fitment of more scale like units should the customer so wish, though it will be supplied with the usual standard wheels to keep costs low. As with all the ESM range it is a relatively simple task to gently rub back the factory scheme and repaint your model if you so wish.

We always get asked why can't we supply these models with the decals separate as before. There are 2 distinct types of modeller who buy these aircraft. Firstly we have the average guy who wants to build the kits as per the box label with the least amount of fuss or additional work. Secondly there's you guys who see this as the basis for your next project that you can embelish with your own enhancements to create a very believable scale rendition of the full size aircraft. Unfortunately the average guy who wants a quick build is the more prominent so we have to cater for him first and foremost. It is interesting how the ARTF market is perceived by modellers. If we sold kits that were pre-fabricated to almost the same level, maybe minus paint or possibly covering, then they would only appeal to the scale modeller who would be quite happy to add the extra detail needed to complete. On the other hand adding the ARTF acronym makes the same model more desirable to a larger audience who require a more comprehensive set of parts. I'm not moaning, just making an observation that occasionaly makes me smile! :D In ESM's case they walk a fine line between the upper market glass fibre scale models from Europe, and the shiney film semi-scale ARTF's that are so popular with the masses. It would've be an interesting excercise to see how these models would have been perceived had they been supplied unpainted as a kit without any obvious connection to the Far East.

Please correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it the Swordfish attack on harboured shipping in Taranto, Italy that gave the Japanese the idea for Pearl Harbour? I seem to recall that the Japanese envoy was visiting the Italians when the attack happened, he was so impressed with the effectiveness and devastation caused by such basic aircraft that he went home and told his superiors.

cheers,
Sym.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...wordfish-8.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...pt09_lores.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...09_2_lores.jpg

slyms 11-06-2009 07:42 AM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Stunning tank site you guys have there Tomas, I'm impressed!

Wils' has a big collection of 1/16th and some 1/6th tanks whereas I sold my beloved Stuart Tank last year. I also make animatronic tank commanders for them, see the following link for videos...
http://www.churchillcreations.co.uk/pilots.htm
http://www.youtube.com/user/Slyms#p/a/u/1/X-32HIcKo_k

Sorry moderators, back on topic!

Sym.

Ram-bro 11-15-2009 08:47 AM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
I have my name and deposit on the list, anyone else aking a chance? Just saw this on the Top 10 bombers...can't say I agree but I would put it on h elist of the one in the top 10 ugliest.....:D I wonder if the magnum radial will lokk right under that cowl ring.

rgm762 11-15-2009 09:23 AM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 

ORIGINAL: Ram-bro

I have my name and deposit on the list, anyone else aking a chance? Just saw this on the Top 10 bombers...can't say I agree but I would put it on h elist of the one in the top 10 ugliest.....:D I wonder if the magnum radial will lokk right under that cowl ring.
i want to, i am currently in on going negoations with that person who lives up north and dresses all in red, yea in other words, I'm begging the wife to let me put my name on the list, as for the ugly part, I'm figuering a couple of these guys will help with the looks :D

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...0&I=LXWMV1&P=K

MANFRED 11-15-2009 09:34 AM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Any idea what the wingspan will be?

rgm762 11-15-2009 09:42 AM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
it's 85.4" here's a coulpe of links for more info

http://www.vqwarbirds.com/products/a...ESMSWDFSH.html

http://www.esmmodel.com/inc/Enproduc...?productid=206

ispirit99 11-15-2009 07:16 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 


<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: larger">I hope the guys in the UK [who will get theirs first] will do us a favor and post an Assembly thread and offer their oppinion. Wish I could rush the Feb or March delivery we slated forhere in the USA. I'm really "Itching" for this one, so ANY additional news on the Swordfish ARFcatagory would really be valuable to "those of us whowait". </span></span></p>

ispirit99 11-15-2009 07:30 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Ram-bow I'm on that Swordfish list. In fact I think I'm first. Tomas mentioned he was only going to havefifteen SwordFish in this shipment. It would be interesting to find out who the other "thirteen" owners are.It's funto think of myself as oneof the few who will be apart of the1st USAShipment of the SwordfishARF. Sort of like being part of a Special Swordfish Squad [grin]. I hope to hear from some fellow squad members to. Thanks for posting the question! That's TWO of us. Anyone else?

OldFart1 11-15-2009 07:52 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
ispirit, I'm one of the thirteen :)

Question for the group - given that I'm hitting the RC swapmeet next weekend, and I know there will be a gent with his typical "table of Zenoah's" - G45 or G62?

(I may still go with a DL55 as I think I have a connection)

Jeff
Special Swordfish Squad

ispirit99 11-15-2009 08:13 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
Hey OLDFART1 Glad to meet you! Where are you from? I'm up in the Hill's of West Virginia. I fly with "The Beckley RC Airplane Club".I was thinking a DL50 or 55cc. Still wondering what's under that cowl.What will there be roomfor?NOWAY am I going to go GLOW with her.

Ram-bro 11-16-2009 12:58 AM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
If I go glow, it will be because that Magnum 5 cylinder fits perfect:D

ispirit99 11-16-2009 01:37 AM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 


Now that you mention it, I didn't think about the Magnum. I have a Magnum 180FS in my Nitro Planes 120 size P-40 and it's a Beast. They have been turning out some good product after a rough start. Still, I like the fuel cost factor and cleaness of Gas so I'm leaning that way. The Swordfish wasn't a very fast old bird but she could lift a good bit. You know, for the life of me I can't imagine how they are going to ship her with that connected upper and lower wing. Might have to come in two boxes or one REALLYBIGBOX.</p>

Kmot 11-16-2009 12:15 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 


ORIGINAL: Ram-bro

If I go glow, it will be because that Magnum 5 cylinder fits perfect:D
[X(] My radar just went up!

OldFart1 11-16-2009 12:31 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 


ORIGINAL: ispirit99

Hey OLDFART1 Glad to meet you! Where are you from? I'm up in the Hill's of West Virginia. I fly with ''The Beckley RC Airplane Club''. I was thinking a DL50 or 55cc. Still wondering what's under that cowl. What will there be room for? NO WAY am I going to go GLOW with her.
I'm from Lakewood, California (Long Beach is easier to find on the map), but spend more time at work (LAX - most people can find that :) ) than home most weeks. Fly out in Chino with the Pomona Valley club www.pvmac.com

I'm real curious to see how much nose weight she might need - Zenoah's are good for adding weight up front without it being dead lead. I have a G26 on my Pacific Clip Wing Monocoupe - shouldn't need any weight added.

Only have (3) glow birds left. CMP Hellcat (YS120), Sig Mayhem 40 (Saito 72) and a VQ Models .46 Mustang that somehow grew a YS110 :)

Ram-bro 11-16-2009 05:24 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
KMOT, i KNOW YOU HAD TO THINK ABOUT THAT ALSO. sorry not yellin. I think it would be a perfect fit. Its about the same size as the Aerowrks pt-17. Should be fine

ispirit99 11-16-2009 10:13 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
OldFart1, I wanted to put a 26cc gas on my ME-109 but I would have had to do to much alteration so I went with an OS 160FX. Got a Magnum 180FS in my Nitro Planes P-40 Warhawk. P-6E Hawk, Spitfire, Mustang and Corsair all have 26cc gas. Don't know what will go in my Stuka which is next on my assembly list. Would like a DL30cc for her if it will fit. By the way, what are your thoughts onloss orgain of horse powerdue to flying at or abovesea level.I noticed that Great planes suggested a 20cc gas formy P-6E but I found that up here it was underpowered. When I went to a 26ccit was a perfect match.It's cold right now here in WV. and summer just came by to say Hi for a few days then left. We flew a lot in overcast conditions. Getting ready now for some flying in the snow while Ituck in for a long winter's night and dreams of a Swordfish in the spring. It must be nice to be able to fly year round in nice weather.

OldFart1 11-16-2009 10:34 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
You have a P-6E?

I think I hate you :)

ispirit99 11-16-2009 11:02 PM

RE: ESM Fairey Swordfish
 
<span style="font-family: Tahoma">Looks like Tower took it off the market. I love this plane so much I ordered a back upbut they were just GONE. Found one at a LHS and planned to snatch it up. While out at the field flying mine, the guy's were talking about how they wish they had gotten one and what reason was there for discontinuing it. During this conversation, a friend who was with me when I found theother P-6E at the LHS, let it slip. It was gone the next day! All's fair [I guess]. This P-6E Hawk is the most beautiful thing to fly or watch fly. No bad habits, very hard to stall and A SHOW STOPPER AT ANY FEILD. The Zenoah 26cc [magnito] Flys Her, not drag her along or hardly keep her up. This plane Flys. You can feel it in your fingersand spine.It tracts straight as a rail both on take off and in the air. Landings are more gracefull than a Swan. She will glide in and touch down on those claw painted gears as solid as a rock. If you EVER get a chance to get one, you will love it. If you find one, don't say anything to anyone, just grab it [grin]. Tonyhttp://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...wink_smile.gif</span>


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