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Old 07-23-2003, 10:02 AM
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I just don't have the time to keep up with so many forums, and would rather concentrate my best efforts in a few places than do a half butted effort in a bunch of places. I cleaned house a little, and I'll be at spadworld or RCCA (eating pizza) if anyone's looking for me.
Old 07-23-2003, 12:32 PM
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I'd like to propose a toast :

-- to tattoo, and his role in creating and promoting this wonderful aspect of this sport / hobby / lifestyle / spaddiction .. 'SA' (spadaholics annonomous) meetings won't be the same without you !!

*raises jug of glow fuel*

~flyer~
Old 07-23-2003, 03:25 PM
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I will probably be joining you.
Old 07-24-2003, 12:25 AM
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OOO Tattoo, thats going to make a severe drop in the number of people visiting RCU!!!

Obviously I am joining RCCA and spadworld forums!!!
Old 07-24-2003, 01:20 AM
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Don't worry folks tattoo will be back! He can't stay away! Wait and see! I try to stay away from all the forums cause I just make people mad and have things I could be doin! But I always come back and see what's happenin' and put in my worthless opinion!
Old 07-24-2003, 11:51 AM
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After reading that post, I am suddenly mad for no apparent reason... Strange.
Old 07-24-2003, 01:46 PM
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Don't worry folks tattoo will be back!
I wouldn't bet on it.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...563&forumid=40]
Old 07-24-2003, 02:24 PM
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After reading that, I sure am glad I have pop-up blocker.

Tattoo, sorry to see you go from RCU, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do. see you on the other forums. If I see anyone asking any questions for you, I will send them To spadworld to find you.
Old 07-24-2003, 05:27 PM
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They are not pop ups. So your blocker probably will do you no good. I dont like them either....But Im not leaving
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So if they are not pop-ups then what do they do. I have not seen them yet. Do you hit a topic and it comes up instead?
Old 07-24-2003, 06:01 PM
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Basically you click to go somewhere, and the page you go to is an ad. You have to click through them.
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Default Kraut I think your right!

I just read that link below my reply and I was not aware of all this crap going on! Your right I don't think Tattoo will be back and I'm glad he is standin' up for what he thinks is right!
I was just runnin' my mouth for something to do and I didn't realize this was so serious. Please forgive my dumbness "again". Thanks Boogerboy
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Using AdSubtract Pro and have not had one show up on screen the filter stats show type and number blocked. Happy camper with this product for over a year.
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Take a guy who used to love this forum. At the time of this post he is the 26th top poster here of all the tens of thousands of members. He spent a LOT of time here, offering free plans, advice, and defending your love for cheap fun airplanes. He sees the forum taking a turn towards comercialism, and removing our free will by placing click through ads every 20-25 screens on the new RCU. He spends his time and carefully chooses his words and voices his opinion well within the forum rules. He does this in the "suggestions" topic (link Kraut posted above) because this forum brags about how they listen to their members, and everything they do is because of member feedback. My member feedback was to strongly reconsider the use of click through ads, as this strongly threatens our free will. I did this because I felt strongly about preserving the reason the RCU we have come to love, has become so popular. I don't want to see it sell out. Well, I was replied to by PlaneInsane and Marc. I thought it was on the level, and a very good conversation. Then without warning, I was locked out of my own thread. Then, my thread was deleted entirely. So now, not only do I see my free will for advertising threatened in the near future, I've also lost my freedom of opinion and freedom of speech here. Well, life is all about choices. I choose to spend my internet time where I'm wanted and my opinion (good or bad) is valued. It's not here. ChrisSpad knows where to find me if you're looking.

P.S. Many of you have thanked me in other threads for your successful adventures into plastic airplanes. You'all are VERY welcome!!!
Old 07-31-2003, 09:22 PM
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Well...I wasn't going to bring this up because these debates and misinformation seem to go on forever. Obviously I have stated over and over again that nobody has seen the site in its final working condition. I mean nobody. RCU's beta site had and still has things that aren't working 100% yet or features not put in.

Tattoo had little patience to realize was that the option to turn off ads and change frequency will exist on the new site.

It is true that guests will not be able to change their ad view preferences but a "registered" member and all upgraded members have the choice to do so.

What I truly enjoy is that quite a few RCU users who had so much faith in me for almost 2 years lose it all in a drop of a hat. Does the way a person operates change that fast? Do people change who they are and do 180 turns? RCU has always been a work in progress and always will be. We WILL always give users what they want and a great experience here. We WILL ensure some economic model exists so RCU can and WILL be here 5 years from now to serve everybody well.

Just because RCU makes money doesn't make it "commercial". If that was the case than RunRyder and Ezonemag/RC Groups is commercial to by definition. Everybody runs in the black. Question is how much is fair to make? Some would argue that we should set limits on how much we should make on our sites. Well, should I take a poll of the membership to see what they think is an acceptable salary for me, michael and our 2 employees? Is $40,000/yr too much or too little? How about $200,000 each per year? Is that too much? What about 1 million each per year? Is that too much or too little?

To run RCU I have dedicated 6-7 days a week of my life and 12-16 hours a day. I did this at the expense of spending time with my wife and 4 year old son. If I died today I can never get that time back. That time is priceless IMHO. I sacrificed my time and now 6 digits of money which officially puts RCU WELL in the red if you do all income less expenses since day one. If that makes more of you happy then rejoice. Party on. Do I deserve to make a living from RCU? How about a very good living or is that unethical in our capitalistic society? Should sites like this only be run by philanthropic owners who can afford to spend their time and money on them at the expense of having a personal life or earning a living for their family? Just stuff to think about for all those crying "commercialism". I'm a lifetime hardcore modeler. I count myself lucky I have a business that I enjoy building. I fly planes, fly heli's and drive RC cars as much as the next guy. If the day comes where RCU comes back into the black and makes money and even if it makes millions will everyone leave a site that caters to the user and provides great service because it is "commercial" or the owners make "too much"? Take a look around you and the products you own. You probably made somebody wealthy in the process. The computer you are reading this on right now is an example. Michael Dell...billionaire. Do people not buy Dell's because they think Dell has gone commercial and he has too much money? I don't think so.

If this hobby should be free to everyone then please petition all the companies who you buy your RC products from and request them as you have to us that they provide all their products to you from now and at no cost. Since this is a hobby and a brotherhood we should really not pay for anything, right? Everyone should provide what we need to enjoy this hobby at no charge otherwise they are commercial and that would make them bad according to some.

If these are the things that some of you think I am truly sorry. There is nothing I can say to debate you. That is your opinion. I also have mine and you should respect that as well. In the good ole USA everyone has the right to provide goods and services along with innovation. IF they do right then they make money. There are no limits in capitalism. If they do a not so good job at it and somebody does better then the other guy flourishes. This is capitalism and Darwinism in action. It is not a bad thing. If it were we would not have cars, computers, drugs, tv, airplanes, homes, electricity and everything else we consume every day.

LAST, I'm not going to debate these points. If you have comments on the new site, things you like, don't like, bugs, suggestions send them to me. I can change or fix anything.

Thank you.

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