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Old 07-05-2006 | 09:15 PM
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I have completed 2 scratch built airplanes many, many years ago... I have a set of plans for a sport/pattern plane, I have 2 questions about this that I never ran into before..

1- The wing is a tapered wing, the plan only shows one half of the wing...so I can't build the same half twice over the plan, do I just measure the distance in between the ribs then mark on the spars, I guess the notches in the ribs will take care of the taper.

2- The fuselage side view shows the wing attached, how do I determine exactly how to cut out the fuselage sides that will match the wing? The plan doesn't make it very clear. In my past builds the plan had a fuselage side by itself which clearly showed how to cut it out.

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Old 07-06-2006 | 11:26 AM
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I have completed 2 scratch built airplanes many, many years ago... I have a set of plans for a sport/pattern plane, I have 2 questions about this that I never ran into before..

1- The wing is a tapered wing, the plan only shows one half of the wing...so I can't build the same half twice over the plan, do I just measure the distance in between the ribs then mark on the spars, I guess the notches in the ribs will take care of the taper.

>Oil the plan. Use some mineral oil and put it on the plan. Then
>cover the plan with some wax paper and build 1/2 of the wing.
>Turn the plan over, cover with wax paper and build the other half.
>
>I have done this for several scratch built planes that only show
>1/2 of the wing. The oil will not hurt the plan and as long as you
>remember to cover the oiled area prior to building, you will not
>be getting any oil on the wood.


2- The fuselage side view shows the wing attached, how do I determine exactly how to cut out the fuselage sides that will match the wing? The plan doesn't make it very clear. In my past builds the plan had a fuselage side by itself which clearly showed how to cut it out.

>After you build the wing, but prior to joining the halves together,
>stand the wing on end and trace the outline of the root rib. Position
>the outline of the rib where needed on the fuselage side and cut
>both sides at the same time. If the opening for the wing on the
>fuselage is part way down the taper, prior to finishing the 2nd half
>of the wing, determine where the wing is going to intersect the fuselage.
>If there is no rib there, make a rib to fit this location and use that rib
>to trace your outline. Remember to include the leading/trailing edges
>and any sheeting into/on this dummy rib.


thanks
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Hope this helps.
Old 07-06-2006 | 04:49 PM
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Thanks for the info, I will give that a try...I guess when the oil makes the plan wet it will show through to the other side, am I right in that way of thinking?

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That is correct. The oil lets the markings show through.
Old 07-07-2006 | 02:27 PM
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... but it's sure messy. I did it once that way and I'll never do it again. Similarly you can drip candle wax over the plan and then iron it into the paper to make "waxed paper" out of the plan. Less sticky but still very messy to do.

My favourite option is to tape the plans up to a big window plan side out and just sketch in all the intersections and basic lines you need by tracing the mirror image on the back side of the plan. Place plan back down on building board trace side up and carry on. You get the same info but it's clean.

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