i was wondering if any of you knew of some free plans out their for a true glider ( no Motor up front) if you do please post here. 2 meter would be perfect for thermalers but i want all sizes. also if you know of and sloper plans out their i would take those two.

why don't you search the links to free plans posted near the top of this forum

There is a few gliders in those links but keep in mind that plans offered for free on the 'net often are not as complete as kit or magazine plans. If you know what you're doing that's fine but if you're looking for extreme guidance then you'll be dissapointed. They are what they are.

Back a couple of years ago, I gave one to Jo Jusko. That web site has my glider plan available there in DXF or BMP formats. I think it has been copied and spread to four or five more sources now too.

Also in the "Plans" for free forum noted above. Look for the one with Corsair in the name. It is german based, but they have a number of high performance sailplanes at that site which can be downloaded tonight.

Wm.

When you go to [link=http://corsair.flugmodellbau.de/files/bauplan/Bauplan.htm]http://corsair.flugmodellbau.de/files/bauplan/Bauplan.htm[/link] , just search for the word "Segelflugzeugbauplan" because that means "glider structural drawing".