g,day guys, i hope you boys are as happy with your f 16s as i am!
i'm using plain elevator and aileron as controls and have noticed that the roll is a little sloppy, could try more aileron differential but i am keen to try roll control via elevators ( elevons?) and also try ailerons as flaps. i'm afraid of trying flapperons, i believe with good reason!
i have never run any model with elevons so any help or advice would be much appreciated, i hope i'm right in assuming that you 2 are flying with this setup (with or withouy the flaps)
thanks guys
ps where are all those other f 16s? show some fotos chappies! please!!

Gday Jeff, For what its worth I would 100% recommend trying elevons for roll alone on the 16 and use the 'ailerons' as flaps alone ala the full size F-16. I have owned two 1/6 scale AD F-16s and both I have set up with just elevon control and they fly fantastic and roll rate is crisp/fast and very axel. The F-16 is a dream to fly with this set up regardless of scale or manufacturer as far as I have seen and heard. Catch up with you at Temora...

Cheers- Marty

Hi Jeff,
I'm getting ready for painting next weekend. I changed my mind on the color scheme and went with this one. I'll post some pictures next weekend.
I've got mine setup with flaperons, curious why you think there would be a problem.
I never liked tailerons because when you make a turn or do a roll, the nose always yaws. I know you can take it out with some rudder, but it still doesn't look right to me.
I'm about 3 weeks away from the test flight, so I'm certainly open to suggestions.
BRG,
Jon

Hi Blackcat!
Yes, I'm flying with elevons and I am very happy with this setup. 25% expo, 6 cm up/down movement and never used the flaps - just flies great!!

I am in Greece now, will tell you more next week!

Tot

to marty, yeah i think i will try this setup. this (skymaster 1/6) f 16 is a lot bigger than the a/d, had it side by side with tommos and mine is about 450mm longer, a real bohemoth. i think flaps would slow the landings and let it touch just that little bit softer. can't work out why it seems to fly better in bennets hands than mine, very confusing.
to jon, the consenses on flapperons is that as the airspeed drops to very near the stall, with the aileron drooped as a flap, the lift is greater than an unflapped wing section, apply aileron
(either left/ right evenly or any combo of differential) and the side that lifts will revert to a section with less lift, possibly stall, and bango or the side that drops further will drag the wing/airframe into adverse yaw, and bango.
i believe the f 16 (and some other similar types with multi flight computors) sample airspeed/a.o.a./throttle set/ pilot's intention continously and will not allow the flapperons to stall the aircraft. maybe someone out there knows the truth and can comment?
bottom line jon - i'd be very careful of flapperons.
iceman - thanks, i'll try your elevon rates and i'm going to put the flaps on the left slider (10x). soft grass and a (too) slow landing cracked the nose gear mounting plate (just the right amount of strenght in this part) no damage to the gear, and just a tiny crack on the fuse, will also very soon begin a respray, probably the dutch j-055, i just can't see it, the skymaster paint job is too good and scale!!!
thanks for the replies guys, and i'll update on the new settings and performance soon

p.s. have a nice lay down on the beach tor!!!

Yeah cant figure that one out, we all know Bennet cant fly... hmmm. Those grey camo colours seem to work pretty well eh! The Belgium tiger schemes solve that problem mate. I have to get around to re-painting my second F-16 thats still currently in grey camo. I reckon I will do the same tiger colours as my first one that bit the dust R.I.P. at Wang in 03.

Cheers

Guys,

On my 1\8 Cermark F-16 - would you recommend going with elevons rather then seperate elevators \ silerons also ?

That looks sweet Marty!!

i3dm, I would go with elevons if it was mine, like I say you wont be sorry the F-16 flies great on taileron/elevon alone. Both my Aviation Design 16's do not have ailerons/flaperons fitted at all... and handles just awesome. One piece wing with no movable control surfaces makes for a more solid all out speed machine too ie less chance of flutter when cranking at 250 mph (no speed limits in OZ ; )

Gday Jeremy, Yeah I want to do my other AD in these colours it just looks so cool in the air also... nice thing about the 16's is there are so many awesome schemes to choose from. Theres another cool one I really like alot with a Spitfire painted in plan form across the top of a Belgium F-16... have you seen that one??

By the way will be seeing you at Temora, what are you flying this year?[8D]

Cheers- Marty

Guys,

Just to make sure, the elevon "aileron" movement is exactly like the wings, i.e. right input, right elev gives "up" and left gives "down" ?

ALso, any idea about the rates i should program the aileron movement to ? i would juet leave the elevator as it is now i think (as long as its not binding) ?