How fast do you like your 1/8 RTR buggies?

40mph only. Even on a big track the extra mph won't do anything. 40mph is on the edge of control, I dont see why you would want to go any faster.

Amen Brother! But even 40MPH is a little high. 33-35 MPH would be ideal for standard gearing with an option pinion included to get up to 40.

Yeah, it is really difficult to control when its speed is higher than 40MPH.
How about 1/8 truggy?</p>

Same speed, but you will need a more powerful .21 to power it. i.e. Jammin .21 or OS V-Spec.

There are a lot of us in the hobby that still enjoy kits. We are becoming an extinct species it seems, as most companies like to go the whole RTR route. I tend to stick with the companies that still stick to their roots and come out with a kit and not just a RTR (A No Choicer!!!) even if it's for every other vehicle model that the company comes out with,then that company still has my business and respect. I sure hope that not all of the future 1/8 Scale buggies are Ready To Ram out my window. That would definitely kill the whole Lipo/Brushless Revolution that we are in the middle of and have much more to look forward to in the near future! Just my 2Cents!

agreed, and are kits that hard to produce, just thorw a bunch of parts in a box, and the RTR manual sans the rtr blah, oh hey look kit YAY, i'll take it, you can even include all the crappy electronics, i'd still rather put it together than get an RTR

the lug

It's not the production that is hard with kits, it's the distribution. The distribution chain is very averse to a product that maybe 1 in 10 customers in a hobby shop will even consider buying, if that (1 in 25? 1 in 100?). Most hobby shops today don't even stock kits, and no distributor is buying products in any numbers that hobby shops don't want to stock, and so on. Everyone in the chain is used to a volume industry and kits just aren't sold in volume, especially now that there is nearly always a RTR alternative to nearly every kit out there.

yeah. almost all distributors stock RTRs, brushless cars of 1/8.

Hobby shopz are dead for the most part anyways, so why does their lack of supplied stock have to affect the fact that distributors are only supplying kruddy RTR's? (Which a whole bunch of us don't want any part of and not just because we don't get to hook up our own rides in the hobby that it is, but the other fact that most of the Electrics that are so kindly supplied will not get used by the novice and up crowd.) Yeah I understand that it's all about supply and demand but i just don't see Access'(A.K.A Mr. Know it all because I have a bunch of posts and stuff!!, lol.) made up numbers being of any reality to the fact that Manufacturer's(Not all of them by any means) as usual are taking the cheap, cost effective way out by putting profit margins ahead of what the customer's really want. And as we all know if the customer isn't happy then the company probably isn't happy in the long run either. There need's to be a balance between RTR's and Kit's because as we all know both types are used and will continue to be used by all of us and many others in the future. And so I believe it is an important balance (at least if i was in charge of running the company) between 'this' and 'that' all the way down to the smallest R/C category that needs to supply or produce not just one or the other of what the extremer want's(Kit-RTR, Brushless-Brushed, Deans connectors-TRX Connectors, Electric-Nitro, 1/10-1/8 etc. etc.) but what they both want. This type of business model, I'm quite sure, would be successful and at the same time leave the fat CEO at the top of the food chain happy since his/her pockets are full of either money or a pocket full of dough nuts. And in the end the customers are happy, which then takes on the trickle effect and makes everyone happy.

RTR's are sold mainly to burden us with more "value added" RTR radio junk ...There's no reason a manufacturer couldn't offer both except for that.



Steve

amen to that!