New Kyosho Sunstorm Brushless with new Video (Rebuilt)
01-26-2007, 03:43 AM
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New Kyosho Sunstorm Brushless with new Video (Rebuilt)
Well I took everyones advice and decided to put my little brushless motor in a smaller hull.
But the only small hull I had left was my old 22" Kyosho Sunstorm ebay clone.
Unlike the Kyosho Sunstorm Wheelnut converted to brushless this hull has a good flatspot at on the bottom of the boat as you can see from the pic
So I spent the day converting it from a sub surface drive to a surface drive.
I put a 35mm prop on it and ran it off 12 cells. After a few teething problems with water getting in I have finally got it all worked out and it seems to run quite well.
I will put a video up tomorrow.
The only issue im having is that the 35mm Prop has a very small pitch, i tried a 30mm prop with a bigger pitch but it was too small to get the boat up to speed also i think it might be a subsurface prop, anyone have any ideas on the best prop for this boat and config?
But the only small hull I had left was my old 22" Kyosho Sunstorm ebay clone.
Unlike the Kyosho Sunstorm Wheelnut converted to brushless this hull has a good flatspot at on the bottom of the boat as you can see from the pic
So I spent the day converting it from a sub surface drive to a surface drive.
I put a 35mm prop on it and ran it off 12 cells. After a few teething problems with water getting in I have finally got it all worked out and it seems to run quite well.
I will put a video up tomorrow.
The only issue im having is that the 35mm Prop has a very small pitch, i tried a 30mm prop with a bigger pitch but it was too small to get the boat up to speed also i think it might be a subsurface prop, anyone have any ideas on the best prop for this boat and config?
01-26-2007, 04:39 AM
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RE: New Kyosho Sunstorm brushless
Please tell me, that aint the Stock Electrics in the Black box??
I have a Hull like that only mine is the Vector steered model..
I found the Hull cavitated Badly and Needed a bit of weight in the Front just ontop of the electrics Box
I have a Hull like that only mine is the Vector steered model..
I found the Hull cavitated Badly and Needed a bit of weight in the Front just ontop of the electrics Box
01-26-2007, 04:48 AM
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RE: New Kyosho Sunstorm brushless
No Its a 60 amp brushless ESC with a custom water cooled heatsink. (Made from a motherboard heatsink). I have it in a small plastic box so if water does get in it wont splash on the esc and kill it.
Yeah i have had to place the 2 batteries besides the motor in order to move the center of balance to about 35% from the transom. Any further back and the whole boat will bounce when I floor it.
Yeah i have had to place the 2 batteries besides the motor in order to move the center of balance to about 35% from the transom. Any further back and the whole boat will bounce when I floor it.
01-26-2007, 08:35 AM
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RE: New Kyosho Sunstorm brushless
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Please tell me, that aint the Stock Electrics in the Black box??
I have a Hull like that only mine is the Vector steered model..
I found the Hull cavitated Badly and Needed a bit of weight in the Front just ontop of the electrics Box
Please tell me, that aint the Stock Electrics in the Black box??
I have a Hull like that only mine is the Vector steered model..
I found the Hull cavitated Badly and Needed a bit of weight in the Front just ontop of the electrics Box
i dont think a ebay boat would have a 2 channel radio with a brushless esc in it . do you!. i mean come on of course it's not.
also . are you running a straight shaft in that . Kinda scary don't you think.
01-26-2007, 09:24 AM
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RE: New Kyosho Sunstorm brushless
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that would be impossible.
i dont think a ebay boat would have a 2 channel radio with a brushless esc in it . do you!. i mean come on of course it's not.
also . are you running a straight shaft in that . Kinda scary don't you think.
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Please tell me, that aint the Stock Electrics in the Black box??
I have a Hull like that only mine is the Vector steered model..
I found the Hull cavitated Badly and Needed a bit of weight in the Front just ontop of the electrics Box
Please tell me, that aint the Stock Electrics in the Black box??
I have a Hull like that only mine is the Vector steered model..
I found the Hull cavitated Badly and Needed a bit of weight in the Front just ontop of the electrics Box
i dont think a ebay boat would have a 2 channel radio with a brushless esc in it . do you!. i mean come on of course it's not.
also . are you running a straight shaft in that . Kinda scary don't you think.
01-26-2007, 10:14 AM
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RE: New Kyosho Sunstorm brushless
I don't know . who are you thinking of ?
lol
I'm just pointing out a fact. that its scary to run a straight shaft!
brushless motors and straight shaft with a straight coupler. I wouldn't run it . i would be afraid to to.
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I'm just pointing out a fact. that its scary to run a straight shaft!
brushless motors and straight shaft with a straight coupler. I wouldn't run it . i would be afraid to to.
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RE: New Kyosho Sunstorm brushless
There is a reason im running a straight shaft, i have gone thru 4 couplers now. Two cheap nylon universal couplers, both shreaded themselves. A graupner carbon fiber universal coupler snapped. And a 4mm flex coupler tore one end off itself.
So hence a straight shaft.
I know what you mean by scary as any movement or misallignment in the shaft will easilly destroy the motor bearings. I have made sure as best i could that everything is perfectly aligned and that there is no movement. As a result it is relativly quiet, no loud buzzing noise resonating thru the entire hull that you normally see with a U-joint.
Still any thoughts on what size prop?
So hence a straight shaft.
I know what you mean by scary as any movement or misallignment in the shaft will easilly destroy the motor bearings. I have made sure as best i could that everything is perfectly aligned and that there is no movement. As a result it is relativly quiet, no loud buzzing noise resonating thru the entire hull that you normally see with a U-joint.
Still any thoughts on what size prop?
01-26-2007, 09:26 PM
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RE: New Kyosho Sunstorm brushless
Ok everyone i have just made a video of my Sunstorm clone doing its thing, be honest and tell me what you all think.
I still think a new prop with more pitch will yeild a bit more speed.
http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video....b5be647f1cbae6
From the video i worked out the boat is doing about 38Kph or about 24Mph for the non metric people out there.
I still think a new prop with more pitch will yeild a bit more speed.
http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video....b5be647f1cbae6
From the video i worked out the boat is doing about 38Kph or about 24Mph for the non metric people out there.
01-26-2007, 10:00 PM
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RE: New Kyosho Sunstorm brushless
Sorry try it again... i should have waited before posting the link. It was still being processed by their servers. i think you will find it will load now.
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RE: New Kyosho Sunstorm brushless
Not for me 
Can I suggest an Upload to either Pufile, Youtube or Zippy Video's?
Cause the RCU player is not exactly High performance or user friendly
Can I suggest an Upload to either Pufile, Youtube or Zippy Video's?
Cause the RCU player is not exactly High performance or user friendly
01-26-2007, 10:44 PM
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RE: New Kyosho Sunstorm brushless with Video
Ok i put a better file on putfile as magnat suggested
http://media.putfile.com/Brushless-Sunstorm
Its 6mb so be it may take a little while to load.
http://media.putfile.com/Brushless-Sunstorm
Its 6mb so be it may take a little while to load.
01-26-2007, 11:29 PM
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RE: New Kyosho Sunstorm brushless
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There's that old Canadian Cockyness again. Lighten up dude. Not everyone knows everything on this HELP FORUM. I'm not good with names but didn't you just recently change your name? You are reminding me of someone else from Canada. That's why I think you are the same person but changed your name.
There's that old Canadian Cockyness again. Lighten up dude. Not everyone knows everything on this HELP FORUM. I'm not good with names but didn't you just recently change your name? You are reminding me of someone else from Canada. That's why I think you are the same person but changed your name.
01-27-2007, 10:31 AM
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RE: New Kyosho Sunstorm brushless
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Ya thats what I thought to. Its that Candy Eye guy.
ORIGINAL: magnat
There's that old Canadian Cockyness again. Lighten up dude. Not everyone knows everything on this HELP FORUM. I'm not good with names but didn't you just recently change your name? You are reminding me of someone else from Canada. That's why I think you are the same person but changed your name.
There's that old Canadian Cockyness again. Lighten up dude. Not everyone knows everything on this HELP FORUM. I'm not good with names but didn't you just recently change your name? You are reminding me of someone else from Canada. That's why I think you are the same person but changed your name.
First off I'm this way cuz people like you Don't know how to read a name .EyeKandy with a K.
And second off yes I am eyekandy. I have the same avatar same post count. same pictures in "my gallery" and same models in "my models"
01-27-2007, 11:27 AM
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Nope.
First off I'm this way cuz people like you Don't know how to read a name .EyeKandy with a K.
And second off yes I am eyekandy. I have the same avatar same post count. same pictures in "my gallery" and same models in "my models"
ORIGINAL: Speederson
Ya thats what I thought to. Its that Candy Eye guy.
ORIGINAL: magnat
There's that old Canadian Cockyness again. Lighten up dude. Not everyone knows everything on this HELP FORUM. I'm not good with names but didn't you just recently change your name? You are reminding me of someone else from Canada. That's why I think you are the same person but changed your name.
There's that old Canadian Cockyness again. Lighten up dude. Not everyone knows everything on this HELP FORUM. I'm not good with names but didn't you just recently change your name? You are reminding me of someone else from Canada. That's why I think you are the same person but changed your name.
First off I'm this way cuz people like you Don't know how to read a name .EyeKandy with a K.
And second off yes I am eyekandy. I have the same avatar same post count. same pictures in "my gallery" and same models in "my models"
Really? are you sure,I just thought it someone that owned the same skater as you and happened to make the exact same avatar. wow, you just blew my mind, well hello again eyekandy lmao
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RE: New Kyosho Sunstorm brushless
Well good news and very very bad news.. I went and got a 35 mm prop with alot more pitch and tried it out this morning. I'd say speed would probably be about 30mph. It was at this point about 60m from shore that a gust of wind hit the boat front on and caused it to barrel roll is a very spectacuar fashion at least 4 good somersaults before landing the right way up. Boy was i relived untill i noticed that the batteries had come loose and were both on the one side causing the boat to dip its back under the water.
It sunk 20 sec later, the foam in the nose was enough to keep the top 10 cm of the boat abover water. About 10 sec after that the water got into the esc and alot of smokepuffed out the top with a definate electrical smell. I was forced to swim out to retrieve it.
I have since recovered what i can i think i might be able to recover the servo, reciver, batteries, maybe the motor and i will have to air the hull out to get rid of that horible electrical smell, but the ESC is fried.
Does anyone think i should buy another ESC and try it with my motor or do you think the motor will also be dead?
It sunk 20 sec later, the foam in the nose was enough to keep the top 10 cm of the boat abover water. About 10 sec after that the water got into the esc and alot of smokepuffed out the top with a definate electrical smell. I was forced to swim out to retrieve it.
I have since recovered what i can i think i might be able to recover the servo, reciver, batteries, maybe the motor and i will have to air the hull out to get rid of that horible electrical smell, but the ESC is fried.
Does anyone think i should buy another ESC and try it with my motor or do you think the motor will also be dead?
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RE: New Kyosho Sunstorm brushless with Video (Sunk!!)
If you can spin the Motor freely then it Might just need a Clean out and relube but if it has seized thats not good...
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I was forced to swim out to retrieve it.
I was forced to swim out to retrieve it.
Its not worth a boat to swim out in water that you don't know.
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Well good news and very very bad news.. I went and got a 35 mm prop with alot more pitch and tried it out this morning. I'd say speed would probably be about 30mph. It was at this point about 60m from shore that a gust of wind hit the boat front on and caused it to barrel roll is a very spectacuar fashion at least 4 good somersaults before landing the right way up. Boy was i relived untill i noticed that the batteries had come loose and were both on the one side causing the boat to dip its back under the water.
It sunk 20 sec later, the foam in the nose was enough to keep the top 10 cm of the boat abover water. About 10 sec after that the water got into the esc and alot of smokepuffed out the top with a definate electrical smell. I was forced to swim out to retrieve it.
I have since recovered what i can i think i might be able to recover the servo, reciver, batteries, maybe the motor and i will have to air the hull out to get rid of that horible electrical smell, but the ESC is fried.
Does anyone think i should buy another ESC and try it with my motor or do you think the motor will also be dead?
Well good news and very very bad news.. I went and got a 35 mm prop with alot more pitch and tried it out this morning. I'd say speed would probably be about 30mph. It was at this point about 60m from shore that a gust of wind hit the boat front on and caused it to barrel roll is a very spectacuar fashion at least 4 good somersaults before landing the right way up. Boy was i relived untill i noticed that the batteries had come loose and were both on the one side causing the boat to dip its back under the water.
It sunk 20 sec later, the foam in the nose was enough to keep the top 10 cm of the boat abover water. About 10 sec after that the water got into the esc and alot of smokepuffed out the top with a definate electrical smell. I was forced to swim out to retrieve it.
I have since recovered what i can i think i might be able to recover the servo, reciver, batteries, maybe the motor and i will have to air the hull out to get rid of that horible electrical smell, but the ESC is fried.
Does anyone think i should buy another ESC and try it with my motor or do you think the motor will also be dead?