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NobodyFamous 05-03-2013 05:36 PM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 
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Well it only took me like 3 years, but the Gen is finaly running pretty good. After the crash last year I got it fixed up and put my X445 prop on and it pushes 78.7km/h, the lake is still cold, but all temps where less then 120F! The boat handels awsome. Running it with 4 x 2s 5800mAh turnagy packs in a 4s2p configuration for 14.8V X 11600mAh. I think the run time is like 10-12 minutes, I havnt hit LVC in it yet. I only drive it for about 8-10 minuts and bring it in before I break it again ;)

One thing I love is how low it sits in the water with all those batteries. Looks very scale and cool!

here are a few pics of it running, and a short video to follow<br type="_moz" />

NobodyFamous 05-03-2013 05:52 PM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 
<div>I wish my dad had filmed it after I turned around and came back full speed. The hull settles out and rides so smooth once up to full speed, no porpoising! (hoping)</div><div></div><div>It ride great up to about 3/4 throttle, then when you go full throttle it goes through a small section of porpoising and then rides smooth, till your at the end of the lake. I am loving this thing now!!!</div><div></div>[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqyBJPYeel4[/youtube]

balsadustmaker 05-04-2013 05:53 AM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 
Ok, I have read this entire thread and am totally confused. I also suffer from CRS, (Can't Remember Sh*t).
I bought one of these used, with stock 4mm flexshaft (soon to be changed to 3/16" for which I will have questions about that later), , Turnigy 180 esc with a UBEC, and a Leopard 3674 1700kv motor. I know from reading this thread that a 40xx size motor is the better choice, but maybe later.
What I am confused about , among other things, can I run 6S and a X442 prop on this setup ? Any help would be appreciated.

NobodyFamous 05-04-2013 09:03 AM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 


ORIGINAL: balsadustmaker

. . .Turnigy 180 esc with a UBEC, and a Leopard 3674 1700kv motor . . .can I run 6S and a X442 prop on this setup ? Any help would be appreciated.
You WILL burn up that motor! take it from me, I burnt up the stock esc, replaced it with a T180, only to blow up the stock motor before I even put it back in the water (on 4s), then bought a Feiago motor, 36mm can and it overheated and cooked my T180 esc. (the motor is also no good anymore) Now I finally have a T180 ESC (again) and a Leopard 4092 2080Kv and it runs amazing with an X445 prop.

If I did it all again, I would have run the stock setup on 3s for a little while and just ordered a 40XX Leopard (even the 4074 is plenty big enough) and skip all the crap in the middle. In the end I wasted money on an extra ESC and motor I never needed. In the 3 years I have had the boat, I have driven it a total of about 6-7 times before I finaly "did it right"

I had no fun and wated a lot of money I really didn't have to waste. Save your money and buy some proper sized gear!!!

1. 180 amp ESC or more
2. motor dia. minimum 40mm
3. driveline upgraded to 3/16

I recomend running 4s, it leaves some head room on the Turnagy ESC's<br type="_moz" />

balsadustmaker 05-04-2013 09:20 AM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 
Thanks for the reply. I will probably run this 3674 on 3S for awhile, upgrade to 3/16" drive line with a X440 prop until I can find a good motor for that runs on 5S. I do have a lot of 3S lipos, so 4S would be a problem for me.

Any idea on prop size for a Leopard 4082 1600 running on 5S ?

NobodyFamous 05-25-2013 08:22 AM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 
Pretty happy with my Gen. . . finally. Had some porpusing issues, but the rudder was angled back because I was using a toothpick and some hot glue for a breakaway bolt [:o]I have since got replacmnet nylon bolts and it is running smooth again.<div></div><div>enjoy my "I have no friends, listen to the boat" video.</div><div></div><div>[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTtCCcpuuFs[/youtube]

If you ho HD full screen you might be able to see someting! ;)</div>

balsadustmaker 05-25-2013 05:35 PM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 
Looks good, imagine even better when the porpusing issue has gone away. My first attempt at putting mine in the water lasted about 3 seconds. The 3/16 prop shaft parted ways with the flex shaft as soon as power was applied. [:@] At least the prop shaft stayed in the strut until the boat drifted to shore.

torqeroll 07-04-2013 04:51 PM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 


ORIGINAL: Sessholvlaru

I'm running mine on 8S. Swordfish 240HV ESC, Leopard 4082 1,600 kV. Octura M545 prop. Best speed so far is 75.5 (vid below is 73.5 run). Check out the pass at 2:00.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2tRWrJZt6c&feature=email&email=comment_re ceived[/youtube]

sweet !!!!

captain bill 07-09-2013 05:02 PM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 
Anybody tried stuffing a nitro motor in one of these hulls? I love the FE set-ups that you folks have put together and would love build one of my own but cant afford the hull plus $250 min. to make it proper without having to sell other toys. I do have a .32 marine motor and drive line from a Shockwave 36 I would like to try until I get all the parts for the FE. Anybody know if a nitro motor will fit under the canopy? Sorry for the nitro discusion on an electric forum, but this was the only intellagent discussion I could find relating to the Genesis Hull.

shearm1 07-16-2013 11:48 PM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 
Im sure someone has already asked but i cant be bothered to trawl through all 11 pages. But does anyone know were i can get blank fiberglass genesis hulls from?? When i say "blank" i meen without any paint or decals. Hobbyking seems to have the cheepest bare hull with paint and decals that i can find but im looking for a blank hull.
any help is greatly appreciated.

thanks guys

785boats 07-17-2013 10:57 AM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 
Fightercat sells them as the 37" Daytona, in white. for 76 bucks.

[link]http://fightercatracing.com/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=13&option=c om_virtuemart&Itemid=1&vmcchk=1&Itemid=1[/link]

Cheers.
Paul.

martno1fan 07-17-2013 01:32 PM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 


ORIGINAL: shearm1

Im sure someone has already asked but i cant be bothered to trawl through all 11 pages. But does anyone know were i can get blank fiberglass genesis hulls from?? When i say ''blank'' i meen without any paint or decals. Hobbyking seems to have the cheepest bare hull with paint and decals that i can find but im looking for a blank hull.
any help is greatly appreciated.

thanks guys

TFL Hobbies in China are the manufacturers of this hull not HK,email them direct.
Mart

Rebel bay 07-17-2013 10:44 PM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 


Hi,</p>

Nobody built a twin setup?</p>

I was thinking about twin setup with not expensive components.</p>

A cheap option is to buy the same stock motor 3674 2074 kV for the twin setup 38000 RPM unload (5S)</p>

Those motors are great, very well made and not expensive : </p>

<font size="2">Turnigy SK3 Fandrive - 3659-1900kv (90mm EDF) </font></p>

<font size="2"> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...90mm_EDF_.html</font></p>

<font size="2">A set of SEAKING 120A is enough for a twin setup, and 5S for each motor or exactly 5S + 5S wired in parallel.</font></p>

<font size="2">For the stingers HOR 110mm for 3/16" shaft without flexshaft square end</font></p>

http://www.horracing.com/images/478stingerv3.JPG</p>

A set of 3/16" flex shaft including </p>

https://astecmodels.co.uk/catalog/pr...9ee8f13f63b1ee</p>

https://astecmodels.co.uk/catalog/pr...9ee8f13f63b1ee</p>

And two 5S batteries</p>

<font size="2"></font></p>You will have a very stable cat, high speed and long time running

shearm1 07-17-2013 11:21 PM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 
Thanks to 785boats and martno1fan for the replies. Very helpfull guys cheers.

NobodyFamous 07-22-2013 08:39 AM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 

ORIGINAL: captain bill

Anybody tried stuffing a nitro motor in one of these hulls? I love the FE set-ups that you folks have put together and would love build one of my own but cant afford the hull plus $250 min. to make it proper without having to sell other toys. I do have a .32 marine motor and drive line from a Shockwave 36 I would like to try until I get all the parts for the FE. Anybody know if a nitro motor will fit under the canopy? Sorry for the nitro discusion on an electric forum, but this was the only intellagent discussion I could find relating to the Genesis Hull.
You may want to check out the "bare hull" options listed above. No sence wasting mony on crap running gear to have to upgrade it right away. Anyhow, to answer your question. . .

Under the canopy, it's hard to make any exact measurments but. . . safely you can get about 80mm height, up to 85mm. This is measured around the area the electric motors sit, from about the center of the hull. be warrned though, everything has a curve to it. The cowl and the center of the hull. Like I said, you can probabily get about 80mm under there.
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captain bill 07-22-2013 05:41 PM

RE: Genesis Offshore Brushless RC Twin Hull (1045mm) from HK
 


ORIGINAL: NobodyFamous


ORIGINAL: captain bill

Anybody tried stuffing a nitro motor in one of these hulls? I love the FE set-ups that you folks have put together and would love build one of my own but cant afford the hull plus $250 min. to make it proper without having to sell other toys. I do have a .32 marine motor and drive line from a Shockwave 36 I would like to try until I get all the parts for the FE. Anybody know if a nitro motor will fit under the canopy? Sorry for the nitro discusion on an electric forum, but this was the only intellagent discussion I could find relating to the Genesis Hull.
You may want to check out the "bare hull" options listed above. No sence wasting mony on crap running gear to have to upgrade it right away. Anyhow, to answer your question. . .

Under the canopy, it's hard to make any exact measurments but. . . safely you can get about 80mm height, up to 85mm. This is measured around the area the electric motors sit, from about the center of the hull. be warrned though, everything has a curve to it. The cowl and the center of the hull. Like I said, you can probabily get about 80mm under there.





Thanks for taking the time to respond. Seems a little tight for what I want to do without cutting the canopy, and I dont want to do that. I was planning on the hull only purchase, if I cant fit the .32 in I will just save it and start collecting the parts I need for the FE. Sounds like I should just look for a used Mean Machine hull, or a Thundercat 31 hull for my .32 and running gear I have. Thanks again.
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shearm1 08-11-2013 12:28 AM

Performance estimations??
 
Hi all,

Instead of making a new thread i thought i might as well just add onto here. Im looking at puting 2x 3S 5000Mah 45C lipos, a leopard 4092 motor (unsure of what Kv to select yet) and a turnigy marine 180A ESC into my 37" genesis hull. Im unsure of what size prop would be best suited but i would like to know if anybody has this setup or similar and what speeds roughly would this setup get my boat to?

Cheers for the help guys

NobodyFamous 08-21-2013 10:38 AM

My Gen runs Leopard 4092 2080Kv, T180 esc, 4s, on an octra X445 and I get 78.8km/h. It can take a bigger prop, but I like it running nice and cool the way it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqyBJPYeel4

thomasjohn 08-25-2013 03:39 PM

Thats a FAST hull , seen many going over 75mph on youtube

Wicked!! 08-31-2013 09:55 AM

Very nice

cat47 10-04-2013 12:38 PM

Hello,

I just received a Gen twin from HobbyKing. After reading this thread i took everything out and started the painting process. I'm new to this type of boat and want to build it right the first time. I need to run two 3s lipo's- i already have them so a single motor on 6s, I also want to use a castle ESC. I have a good servo, radio, transmitter etc. If someone could please let me know:
#1 What Castle ESC
#2 What Prop
#3 What Motor
#4 What hardware to run or is the stock ok, if the stock is good then whats the best way to offset the rudder or purchase a new rudder #5
#5 Whats the best offset rudder for it
#6 Upgrade the driveline to 3/6

Any other advice would be appreciated. I'm looking to get around 75mph out of it.

Thank you for your advice.
[h=1][/h]

Sessholvlaru 10-04-2013 01:02 PM

You're not going to get 75 out of 6S. Mine's 8S and I'm right there. Check out the forums on OffShoreElectrics.com. Lots of info on Genesis builds there.

cat47 10-04-2013 02:58 PM

ok, thank you

*Pipe* 04-01-2014 08:47 PM

so is the stock one better equipped now than the original or still crap lol. I see it must be popular is back order status at hk.
anything similar out there maybe wider?
thx

TPerk 03-13-2018 07:04 AM

I just order the Genesis from H K and I would like to know if the stock motor will work with a 4cell lipo battery I also order a 120 amp ESC. Has any one made a hatch that you don't need to use the tape to seal the hatch?


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