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11-12-2006, 11:41 PM
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[&:][&:] hi just got my first gas engine boat that comes with JZ GP260M engine which is 1 to 1 of the Zenotha 260pum. Can anyone tell me where are the choke is located at or looks like. I look an look and nothing can be pull , slide move that look like a choke to me. I got zenotha manuel it only said to choke the engine but on all the diagram , it does't not shown any choke at all. I haven't start my boat yet until i find the choke, please advise !!!! thank yhou thanke you !!!!!!
11-13-2006, 12:19 AM
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[&:][&:] hi just got my first gas engine boat that comes with JZ GP260M engine which is 1 to 1 of the Zenotha 260pum. Can anyone tell me where are the choke is located at or looks like. I look an look and nothing can be pull , slide move that look like a choke to me. I got zenotha manuel it only said to choke the engine but on all the diagram , it does't not shown any choke at all. I haven't start my boat yet until i find the choke, please advise !!!! thank yhou thanke you !!!!!!
[&:][&:] hi just got my first gas engine boat that comes with JZ GP260M engine which is 1 to 1 of the Zenotha 260pum. Can anyone tell me where are the choke is located at or looks like. I look an look and nothing can be pull , slide move that look like a choke to me. I got zenotha manuel it only said to choke the engine but on all the diagram , it does't not shown any choke at all. I haven't start my boat yet until i find the choke, please advise !!!! thank yhou thanke you !!!!!!
11-13-2006, 12:43 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.ca:80/ws/eBayISAPI.d...B:EOIBSA:CA:11
This is the boat i just got from ebay, very nice boat, but is my first gas engine boat , so i don't even know where to find the choke?? Here is the pictures
This is the boat i just got from ebay, very nice boat, but is my first gas engine boat , so i don't even know where to find the choke?? Here is the pictures
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RE: gas engine newbie need help
See that little brass shaft that sticks out next to your throttle arm? Turn it and you will open/close your choke. 1/4 turn to the left and the choke will close. 1/4 turn to the right and it will open.
11-13-2006, 01:03 AM
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Hi XXX thanks for reply, i did noticed that brass stick, i was playing with it but it feel so tight, i was afraid to turn it !!!!!
11-13-2006, 01:52 AM
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You may want to push a small piece of fuel tubing over it. It will make it easier to grip and turn. A few companies also sell a small arm you can put on to make it even easier to turn.
11-13-2006, 02:34 AM
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ok got it to turn, but cranking it for 15 min, nothing happen, couldn't get it to start. I checked the sparkplug, i can see it spark, but one thing i notice that , i look into the engine head after remove the sparkplug, i don't see any gas in there is it normal?? on my nitro engine when i open the sparkplug and pull, i can see the fuel coming out, but i don't see nothing in the hole???? what is the best way to start a brand new engine??? thanks[:@][:@][:@][&o][&o]
11-13-2006, 02:41 AM
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Im not a gasser but you see that little clear ball thing on top of carb it might be a primer bulb push it if it pushes in its a primer to put gas in to chamber I have one on my weed whip push it 2or 3 times make sure the flap in the carb or the choke is closed so you cant see in the carb this means the coke is on. then pull away. Dave
11-13-2006, 04:22 AM
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i think that is definately a primer bulb my weedy motor has one just like it, as said pump it 6 times and open the choke and it should start up.my engine says ten times but ive found six is enough .
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RE: gas engine newbie need help
Snakeboy,
Push the primer bulb a few times till you see fuel (this does not prime the "chamber" ). Now close the choke and pull the cord (at half throttle) a couple times and it should "pop". Once it pops, open the choke and pull again while keeping it at about 1/2- 3/4 throttle. If you "pull away" with the choke closed, you will flood the engine. Hope this helps.
11-13-2006, 12:26 PM
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Well ya your going to flood it if ya dont open the choke once it fires. I got the same setup on my weedwhip. just a figure of speech. I forgot he didnt know nothing about motors. Normally once an engine fires or stays running you hurry and open the choke. Ya it primes the crankcase whatever
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lol,what ever it does it starts the engine lol .just prime the thing give it choke ,start it then no choke and away she goes lol.works every time for me on every petrol engine ive ever had .
11-13-2006, 01:29 PM
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A+ Dont matter to me I know the basic principals of running trimmers chainsaws mowers. Most people know to choke a motor to draw the fuel. and when it fires or starts running to turn it off. or yes I agree it will flood or worst yet foul the plug.
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ORIGINAL: Most people know to choke a motor to draw the fuel. and when it fires or starts running to turn it off.
Unclecrash, you say that it "don't matter to me...." That's great it does not matter to you, but it does matter to the guy who needs the help.
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Hopefully he's got the idea now. As was said, with different words, we're not all born with the knowledge of how to prime a gas engine. Providing clear, accurate instructions is important. As we're doing this, lets all remember to focus on providing information without making it look like we're bickering...
11-13-2006, 05:39 PM
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Hi , thanks for all the help,
I couldn't get it to start last night so i went to bed. But today i took it to the lake and keep the boat in room temp, {{Oh i forgot to mention i am in calgary canda , so is about 0 degree today!!!! )) and pump it about 6 times and start pulling and i can heard some thing is working , but i pull the thing until my arm falls off and finally the boat start..... it run for about 2 min and quite, the boat was going about 20 mph it was very slow, my shock wave 36 run way faster. And took a while again to start the second time.... and run about another 2 min and it quite slowly dead again. And then i couldn't start it up again because i have no more strength on my both arms... Ha Ha.....!! So my question is, is it because the china make 1 to 1 Zenoah enginee is not good so it is hard to start or it is just because the engine is new and need to be broke in first for easy starting.
If i get the zenoah 260 Pum will it be easier and faster??? thanks for all your help
http://www.radiocontrol-2005.com/JZ%2026cc.htm JP260M anyone know anything about this engine ???? That's what i got from radiocontrol-2005.com
I couldn't get it to start last night so i went to bed. But today i took it to the lake and keep the boat in room temp, {{Oh i forgot to mention i am in calgary canda , so is about 0 degree today!!!! )) and pump it about 6 times and start pulling and i can heard some thing is working , but i pull the thing until my arm falls off and finally the boat start..... it run for about 2 min and quite, the boat was going about 20 mph it was very slow, my shock wave 36 run way faster. And took a while again to start the second time.... and run about another 2 min and it quite slowly dead again. And then i couldn't start it up again because i have no more strength on my both arms... Ha Ha.....!! So my question is, is it because the china make 1 to 1 Zenoah enginee is not good so it is hard to start or it is just because the engine is new and need to be broke in first for easy starting.
If i get the zenoah 260 Pum will it be easier and faster??? thanks for all your help
http://www.radiocontrol-2005.com/JZ%2026cc.htm JP260M anyone know anything about this engine ???? That's what i got from radiocontrol-2005.com
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did you alter the choke when the motor started?,that engine is not a bad engine at all i know a guy who runs one and he gets 50 mph from his.once you get the engine started turn the choke off and it should start to run properly.it really sounds to me like your running it with the choke open? thats why its cutting out.as said before open the choke after youve primed the engine then pull the starter ,once its running choke off!!.also does it have a kill switch? if so you may want to check this isnt kicking in somehow to kill the engine.on my weedy you have an electric ignition switch if its off no matter how many times you pull that starter it wont fire!!.once you figure it out im sure the engine will be fine.are there no clubs near you where you can take it and let someone show you how to start it?.yes zenoah 260 gpum are better engines but the one you have is a decent engine by all accounts ,ive seen one run and it looks very fast my friend says he had it measured at arround 50 mph.also did you alter any of the needle settings? if so you may want to ask someone who owns a gpum for the correct settings and start from there?.
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I was looking at your pictures you posted. Make sure the fuel pickup hose is on the bottom fitting on the carb and the return vent hose is on the top fitting. I say this because all the boats and cars i have seen with the green and black hoses, the black hose is usually on top. So check the hose arrangement, follow the hoses to the tank and make sure the hose on the bottom carb fitting is going to the fuel pickup tube on the tank.
Another thing to check would be the vent for the fuel tank.... there is a fuel pump built into the carb and it draws fuel from the tank, if there is no vent or the vent is clogged, a negative pressure will result in the fuel tank and fuel will not be drawn.
Lastly, since the weather up there is so cold, you may need to adjust the high speed needle to compensate for weather conditions.
Another thing to check would be the vent for the fuel tank.... there is a fuel pump built into the carb and it draws fuel from the tank, if there is no vent or the vent is clogged, a negative pressure will result in the fuel tank and fuel will not be drawn.
Lastly, since the weather up there is so cold, you may need to adjust the high speed needle to compensate for weather conditions.
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I doubt it will fire using your method...
Snakeboy,
Push the primer bulb a few times till you see fuel (this does not prime the "chamber" ). Now close the choke and pull the cord (at half throttle) a couple times and it should "pop". Once it pops, open the choke and pull again while keeping it at about 1/2- 3/4 throttle. If you "pull away" with the choke closed, you will flood the engine. Hope this helps.
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Well whats the story did you get it to fire. Dave
Well whats the story did you get it to fire. Dave
Snakeboy,
Push the primer bulb a few times till you see fuel (this does not prime the "chamber" ). Now close the choke and pull the cord (at half throttle) a couple times and it should "pop". Once it pops, open the choke and pull again while keeping it at about 1/2- 3/4 throttle. If you "pull away" with the choke closed, you will flood the engine. Hope this helps.
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Hi , thanks for all the help,
I couldn't get it to start last night so i went to bed. But today i took it to the lake and keep the boat in room temp, {{Oh i forgot to mention i am in calgary canda , so is about 0 degree today!!!! )) and pump it about 6 times and start pulling and i can heard some thing is working , but i pull the thing until my arm falls off and finally the boat start..... it run for about 2 min and quite, the boat was going about 20 mph it was very slow, my shock wave 36 run way faster. And took a while again to start the second time.... and run about another 2 min and it quite slowly dead again. And then i couldn't start it up again because i have no more strength on my both arms... Ha Ha.....!! So my question is, is it because the china make 1 to 1 Zenoah enginee is not good so it is hard to start or it is just because the engine is new and need to be broke in first for easy starting.
If i get the zenoah 260 Pum will it be easier and faster??? thanks for all your help
http://www.radiocontrol-2005.com/JZ%2026cc.htm JP260M anyone know anything about this engine ???? That's what i got from radiocontrol-2005.com
Hi , thanks for all the help,
I couldn't get it to start last night so i went to bed. But today i took it to the lake and keep the boat in room temp, {{Oh i forgot to mention i am in calgary canda , so is about 0 degree today!!!! )) and pump it about 6 times and start pulling and i can heard some thing is working , but i pull the thing until my arm falls off and finally the boat start..... it run for about 2 min and quite, the boat was going about 20 mph it was very slow, my shock wave 36 run way faster. And took a while again to start the second time.... and run about another 2 min and it quite slowly dead again. And then i couldn't start it up again because i have no more strength on my both arms... Ha Ha.....!! So my question is, is it because the china make 1 to 1 Zenoah enginee is not good so it is hard to start or it is just because the engine is new and need to be broke in first for easy starting.
If i get the zenoah 260 Pum will it be easier and faster??? thanks for all your help
http://www.radiocontrol-2005.com/JZ%2026cc.htm JP260M anyone know anything about this engine ???? That's what i got from radiocontrol-2005.com
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Hopefully he's got the idea now. As was said, with different words, we're not all born with the knowledge of how to prime a gas engine. Providing clear, accurate instructions is important. As we're doing this, lets all remember to focus on providing information without making it look like we're bickering...
Hopefully he's got the idea now. As was said, with different words, we're not all born with the knowledge of how to prime a gas engine. Providing clear, accurate instructions is important. As we're doing this, lets all remember to focus on providing information without making it look like we're bickering...
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