pgroom_68

Hey again guys,

TOTALLY AGREE[sm=thumbs_up.gif][sm=thumbs_up.gif][sm=thumbs_up.gif]

Peter[sm=shades_smile.gif]
P.S. Happy Bastille Day to any French lurkers......

Rob2160

Hi Hugj

I posted some setting for the Blade SR on a DX6i last September here

which I have copied the relevant parts to here...

Since moving on to the 450 Helis I now have my SR back on the Stock radio and don't fly it often. but these settings should work ok..


The Blade SR with the stock radio is beautifully easy to fly and stable, but far too docile compared to the Twister, so I decided to bind it to my DX6i and experiment with the settings.

These settings are my own personal preference and are based on a number of desired outcomes..

1.. Hover in both Normal and Stunt mode with the Collective slightly above centre stick (It feels comfortable to me)

2.. I select Stunt mode on the ground before take off, so I wanted a smooth transition from normal to Stunt mode and vice versa

3. I wanted enough negative pitch to easily sustain inverted flying and also climb easily wihen inverted

3.. I was extremely careful that there was no binding at max and min pitch settings with any combination of control input.

4.. I was careful of not overloading the motor with too much pitch and not enough throttle settings..

This is the first time I have experimented with CCP settings and can only say they work great for me and I love the way the SR flies with them.. It loops, rolls and flips very easily (That is the limit of my ability for now)

I searched the Forums for a starting point and found them here

http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=195138

I used the settings and modified them as follows.

FIRSTLY I removed all the collective pitch linkages and wound each of them out 3 full turns (3 x 360 turns for each one)

This lengthened each linkage allowing me to achieve more negative pitch

DX6I settings


D/R Expo:
Aile 1 - 80% + INH expo Aile 0 - 100% + INH expo
Elev 1 - 80% + INH expo Elev 0 - 100% +INH expo
Rudd 1 - 80% + INH expo Rudd 0 - 90% + INH expo

I don't like expo and I limited rudder to 90% purely to spare the tail rotor motor somewhat during pirouettes

I never use Dual Rate..they are all always at Pos 0

Travel Adj - all set to 100%

Sub Trim - All set to 0

Throttle Curve:
Norm Pos -
L - 0%
2 - 40%
3 - 60%
4 - 80% H - 100%

Stunt Pos -
L - 95%
2 - 87.5%
3 - 80%
4 - 90%
H - 100%

Pitch Curve:
Norm -
L - 20%
2 - 35%
3 - 50%
4 - 65%
H - 80%

Stunt -
L - 0% (Negative 7 degrees pitch)
2 - 25%
3 - 50% (about 1 degree positive pitch)
4 - 72.5%
H - 95% (this keeps maximum pitch at 10 degrees)

Swash Mix :
Aile +70%
Elev +70%
Pitch -35%

Under the Setup List:

1) In the reverse menu Reverse the Rudd and Pitch settings
2) Under Swash Type - Select CCPM 120

SW_RC

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-1...us-way/2792192

If this is the norm and not just some Aussie reporter running off at the mouth, this is pretty sad for finding good flying time in the US...

Tinkman

Hey Guys,
I swear, I can't keep up with you guys! I take a week off and it takes me two to catch up. I finally decided to cut my losses and just jump to the last page.... so here I am.
In the mean time my new sunglass cam arrived. I've got it charging and plan to try it out tomorrow.
On the heli front, I crashed my Belt at the chili cookoff. Not too much damage, but still awaiting parts. In the mean time I spen a little time each day at lunch dialing in the HK. Hopefully she'll be ready to maiden soon.
Hasta,
Joaquin

Rob2160

Hey all,  did the Gaui X5 Maiden. today.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg5PUJwyv_M[/youtube]

And flight 4 after tweaking, lubing and balancing...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycALnuQEv84[/youtube]

What a great helicopter!

pgroom_68

CONGRATULATIONS Rob!! ....it looks great mate![sm=thumbs_up.gif] Is it my imagination or is it slightly lacking power?[sm=what_smile.gif]

Peter[sm=shades_smile.gif]
P.S. I can only see the first video - is the second one still compiling?

SW_RC

So what's the verdict against the G550 Rob?

Much different?

Garry

rikybob

Hiya Kidz!

Just been real busy on my end (when I get weekends off for a month I re integrate into society and become a citizen again) and haven't had time for the hobby!

When I do get time the Wx doesn't cooperate!

Great reading in the forums (Good going Edmund!)!

Rob, congrats on all the recent accomplishments i.e. inverted hover, acquiring the Cylon radio (intact) and the newest member of the GAUI family.
Don't be hard on yourself re: battery. You have a LOT of equipment to keep up with!

One more weekend off then Mon,Tues and some "Me" time!

Best to all!

b

hugj

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Beautiful Rob! Thanks for the info on the settings. Ill give them a try.
If i can master this twitchie little bird it may be a vacation to fly one like yours.
Thanks again its off to the old slave factory!

rikybob

Hiya Hugj!

I owned an SR (please don't get me started) and found that adding extra weight to the flybar gave me the needed stability to get a "foot in the door" on handling it and be successful in flight.

This also can be accomplished by adding exponential in the programmable radio but as a beginner who is simply just trying to get a hand hold on flight with that miserable little machine (I told myself I wouldn't do this) you may be better to try that measure 1st.

Each time you crash (bump the tail rotor) you significantly reduce the life of the tail motor.

Just my 2c!

Go to [link=http://www.youtube.com/user/b4566bb?feature=mhee]my channel[/link] and see some viddy from over a year ago of my earlier SR flying!
b

Rob2160

Hi Peter,

Short answer.. Yes it is underpowered as I am using a MUCH smaller battery than recommended..


Long Answer.

The manual recommend a 6S 4000Mah battery (22 volts approx)

The manual also gives you 4 pinion options givng various rotor Rpm as follows

13T = 2195 Rpm
14T = 2349 Rpm
15T = 2525 Rpm
16T = 2693 Rpm

I erred on the side of conservative and went with a 14T pinion..

My reasoning was that it will have plenty of performance for my level of flying withouth being ridiculous, and the smaller pinion will give longer flight times.

Those figures are with the 6S battery..

My 6S Battery has not arrived yet so I have been using a 5S (18 volt approx) 2450 Mah battery..

Given my 14T pinion this means my heli is running at around 1920 Rotor RPM, which is really too low for this heli..

That means the blades are at higher angle of attack for flight and manouvers and therefore there is a lot more rotor drag,

I am expecting the 6S battery to transform this heli into a fire breathing dragon..

Having said that, I have been pleastantly surprised by how well it flies on the 5S battery, (about the same at the 550 Gaui)

Hope that all makes sense.

Rob2160

Honestly, I am not one prone to exaggeration.. but there is NOcomparison between these helis..

Considering they effectively cost me around the same $$$.

The X5 has a metal head and tail, and a torque tube drive..

It feels like a tight powerful sports car.

The 550 is nice, more docile, very stable and great to fly. but the X5 is a quantum improvement

(and I haven't even flown it with a 6S battery yet)

The X5 is just as stable in the hover as the 550..

For the money.. its a no brainer.

Rob2160

Thanks Brian,

Still a bit shell shocked with all the new arrivals.. have to have a month moratorium now.. (I'm still figuring out how to turn the Cylon radio on.. )

Having said that.. looky whathappened during my initial hover tests of the X5 this morn... (1:15 onwards)

PS.. I like the feel of the Futaba Gyro with the Futaba Servo better than the Quark.. (might be the $160 BLS251 vs a $22 DS480 though..)

Simon, you'd love this gyro.. no drift.. no bounce, super fluid and smooth.. Very cool!.

rikybob

I can't say for certain but as for my personal condition, I am provided around 60ish days a year of leave and I use it all!

I am on "annual leave" about every three months and have "natural breaks" that allow for "6 day" breaks every quarter, so sometimes I am off every six weeks or so!

My "caravan" allows me to have a "house" wherever I park it!

Bottom line is, is that I hear colloquial evidence of what the author is saying, but it does NOT occur in my world!

b

PS. I'm not off as much as brother Rob, but really, who is???

sgbfly

Hiya Brain & Rob,

Brian, I hope your feeling better now and that prospect of you getting some "me" time sound good Weather not cooperating here either - I had a go on the field just now but the wind was fiendishly gusty and I chickened out of everything - even fish tankin at times

Rob, I've enjoyed watching your Gaui's first hops, flights and loops. The Postmans cameo appearance was very funny in the hop video. Interesting comments on the gyros.

I started to out the GT back together last night and got as far as replacing the cyclic servos before I retired to watch some tv. I plan to rebuild this helicopter then do a little gyro test myself - hk401b v latest (& according to Assan - final f/w version) GA250 v LeadersHobby-GY520 clone. There is a lot of pressure on my hobbytime in the coming week so the gyro test could well be 2 weeks away

Best to all

Simon

Rob2160

But I have to work next Tuesday.. ALLfriggin day!.

Its not justsunshine and leisure in Perth you know..

sgbfly

Hi Everyone,

I've been asked to post how I'm currently mounting my onboard keychain cam to my heli for the PiP effect in videos such as this one (not a new vid!) ....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxKA0pM-6qM[/youtube]

I'm using some double sided Hobbyking 4mm foam tape, mounted up against the helicopter bottom plate close to the main gear - just a single sheet but with a additional thin strip at the leading edge to point the camera down slightly. Then on top (actually bottom as you look at the heli - lol) of this is added a single layer of single sided draft excluder foam tapein such a way that the front is stepped slightly. The "step" helps to ensurethe canopy is not caught in the camera field of view. The camera is then held in place with a hair band which is looped around the foam mount and bottom plate with the help of a cable tie.

This works well and is very lightweight and convenient for installing & removing the cam. That said son't expect vibration damping miracle from this and good results are only obtained with a well balanced & tracked helicopter!

HTH

Simon

rikybob

Grrrrrrrr......[:@]

Rubbin' it in.........[:'(]

Don't make me come down there!!

yer pal,

b

Buz

Thanks, guys!

Garry.. I did rebind it and it made no difference. I always turn on Tx first so by the time it binds it's been on for a while. I did check both lipos I have for it, and neither will hold much of a charge. Both have swelled up... so that may be what's happening. I have to laugh sometimes when I'm flying it outside... I didn't buy a tx with it. I just bound it to my DX7..... There's just something wrong about flying a tiny helicopter with a gigantic Tx.

SW_RC

Buzz - Yes I know that feeling, my MXPx and 120SR are exclusively (both BNF) on the DX8.

Brian - Yes brother Rob does very well in the time off stakes (and in other ways looking at the toys) but I'm sure he earns it, and the path to hisa qualifications was long...

I've got a 6 day week this week, then 4 off. That's only 2 overtime shifts, but not worried as the $$ will be nice in Bali. LOL Not that you need much money there.. 8^)

I bought a video camera off ebay some time ago, but silly me, didn't think about the mounting side of things. It's not a keyfob type with the lens at the end, it shoots from the biggest face, if that makes any sense.. Maybe it'll work when I get a big enough chopper the mounting will be easy.. I'd be embarrased posting flight videos at the moment, let's just say my flights are NOT limited by battery life.. They are limited by helicopter life.....

Garry

SW_RC

So maybe the 550 would be a wiser choice for a less skilled pilot? The belt driven tail might be a little more robust and the nth degree of responsiveness might be something to be avoided?

That $150 550 looks so tempting -even sensible - compared to a HK600 with it's quality issues. Not that the hk600 is neccessarily a lemon, but being so close to the price of the 550 with it's GOOD quality it's hard to make a case for it..

Yeah I know, the solution is to buy one of everything..

$30,000,000 draw tonight. 8^)

Garry.

Tinkman

60ish days a year!? I'm working for the wrong level of govt. I get about 52/year, but that's after 27 yrs working for Sam.

On another note, I tried the sunglass cam today. I wasn't really impressed. The video was ok at best,and the sound sucked. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I'll try it with a flight when I get my bird back in the air and see if it works outdoors.
All for now,
Joaquin

pgroom_68

Hey again Garry,

...just a suggestion of how you might mount that cam.
A CF small diam tube (or pole) strung from port to starboard above the skids and used as a kind of "hinge" to allow the cam to swing down after take-off and point in the correct direction. It is hard to describe mate[sm=confused_smile.gif]. I will try to get a mock-up for you - to make it easier to understand

Peter[sm=shades_smile.gif]
edit:

Rob2160

Oh yes, don't get me wrong.. the 550 Hurricane is super quality.. much better engineered than the HK helis (which I still love and are great value) and the quality of screws / nuts botls etc in the Gaui 550 kit cannot be faulted..

Yes, for $150 for the 550 vs $139 for the HK 600 (which needs additional replacement parts) the choice is clear...

There is also the baby brother to the 550 IE the 425, a kit can be had for $98 http://www.globalrchobby.com.au/prod...roducts_id=505

PS.. Peter.. this is why the Gaui X5 is "underpowered" (it still out performs the 550 with a 6S) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_tIeLTHZtM

PPS: Just had a 5 minute flight on the X5 on a flat 100% throttle curve and only put back 1700 Mah into the 2450 Lipo - wow.. i was putting back 2000 yesterday... looks like a few flights to bed in the moving parts and a bit of Labelle have really reduced the friction... It is flying super smooth..

Rob2160

Yes,I always maintain that "I worked really Hard to be this lazy"

How is an MSR on an 11X?

Cheers all. and have a fun weekend!