LDGILLS

Just wondering, how would that work? Or am I just plowin dirt?

Gyros on the elevator and aileron axis, I am thinking should make it pretty stable.

rlsloan

You don't want to do that.

tippy

Nice heavy flybar paddles makes an excellant gyro ...
and it will stabilize your heli too.

TheBum

The problem is that the elevator and aileron affect the movement of the entire heli whereas the rudder only affects the rotation of the tail. Plus, there's the matter of the "lean" that's necessary to counteract the sideways thrust of the tail rotor and any wind that may be blowing; the lean angle to hold a hover will vary based on the wind speed and direction.

ksechler

LD
There are better ways to make the heli stable if that's what you're after. You could use 335's and flybar weights for example. If you're interested in proof of concept, then sure you could make a gyro work on elevator and ailerons, but it'll take some trial and error and a lot of spare parts.

soop7667

I asked this question myself some time ago. What you want to look into is the FMA Direct Co-Pilot. It will stabilize the heli for you - Hell - It will let you hover completely hands off. Most heli guys say not to use it when you're learning because it will teach you bad habbits. I, personally, learned the hard way, like most others do. I've seen a guy demonstrate his Co-Pilot for me once. He said he wasn't a very good Heli Pilot, and that he'd been flying for about 4 months or so. It was on his T-Rex 600. (Electric Version) He completed some rolls and while inverted he let go of the cyclic stick and the heli turned itself around right side up, into a level hover. I think it will help you keep your heli in the air, but does it help you learn how to fly? Not really. I feel that it will in the long run it will hinder your ability to learn how to fly heli's - You'll learn that you're heli will fly itself, and then the first time you have to fly one without the co-pilot, you're screwed! Good luck

LDGILLS

Actually, I was just curious about it, I was bored and just thinking about it.

TheBum

Besides, I would think having the heli right itself automatically would take some of the excitement out of the hobby. There's nothing that'll give you an adrenaline rush like steering your heli out of serious trouble.

BarracudaHockey

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Actually we use two cyclic gyros with a flybarless setup.

I saw it this weekend on a Logo 500. 20 percent less interia in the rotor system, the thing redefines insane (of course the pilot made my stock Mini Titan look insane for filming the review video so that has more to do with it than equipment)

alienteabagger

Note that you specified that its a FLYBARLESS SETUP. From what I have read these setups tend to be much much more twitchy thatn a heli of any size with a flybar.

BarracudaHockey

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Of course. 1/2 of a flybar/paddles job is to impart gyroscopic stability to the rotor system


Here's one in action

LDGILLS

So, you just have the two gyros, and no flybar on that bird?

BarracudaHockey

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Yep, well sorta.

Its an integrated unit with a multi axis gyro but yes, no flybar, 1 gyro sensing each cyclic axis.

And I wish it were mine, it flys like mad.