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HELICOMMAND => Difficulty to setup for TRex450

Old 09-20-2008, 09:00 PM
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Hi,

I am flying TRex450SE v2 for about 10 months and recently decided to instal HELICOMMAND 3A.

I am practicing hovering with video camera on board and would like to get more stable conditions for video shooting.

My recent video here: http://www.rcuvideos.com/video/HeliSept1st2008-wmv

I have installed HELICOMMAND 3A, but I am struggling to set it right (swash-plate movement).

As I mentioned I have TRex450 with Futaba 7C (2.4GHz) transmitter.

What I did:
1) Set my Futaba 7C in H1 mode (each servo is acting from it's own stick);
2) I connected HELICOMMAND 3A according to manual;

My problem:
1) When I am checking swashplate movement I am not getting right bechaviour.
2) I re-connected servos in all possible ways and tried out inverting them in all possible combinations.
3) If I am looking from the front at helicopter, then swashplate bechaive as:
- Left one as back one;
- Back one as right one;
- Right one as left one;
4) It look like swashplate turned around 120 degree cntr-clockwise.
5) Any attempts with inverting servos or re-arranging connections didn't help so far.

I'D LIKE SOMEONE WITH HELICOMMAND SETUP EXPERIENCE (for TRex type of heli) TO GIVE ME AN ADVICE REGARDING HELICOMMAND 3A SETUP on TRex450.

I am looking forward to receive some help.

Thank you,
Andrew.
Old 09-22-2008, 08:46 PM
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Default RE: HELICOMMAND => Difficulty to setup for TRex450

no offense but the heli command takes all the fun out of learning,try getting better without it
Old 09-23-2008, 06:11 AM
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no offense but the heli command takes all the fun out of learning,try getting better without it
He is not using it to learn he is using it to stabilize the heli for shooting video.
Sorry I can't help you with the setup.
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talk with the helicommand at helicommand.com i might do this as well myself
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Default RE: HELICOMMAND => Difficulty to setup for TRex450

Hi,

It is about a few weeks as I am flying my Trex with Helicommand.

Everything set properly and just fine tuning is undergoing these days.

Thank you,
Andrew.
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Default RE: HELICOMMAND => Difficulty to setup for TRex450

Smooth flying T-Rex 450 SE without HeliCommand, just using expo on the swash.

Glad you got it working now Andrew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl-jCgPtUDI
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oh that was free hand flying??? nice!!!!!!!! you gave me hope that i dont have to pay 500 bucks for something like that thanks!!! i responding to your other vid on youtube lol. im getting my heli upgraded with carbon fiber parts and aluminum head. shoudl be nice!!!!!!! planning on using fpv by a 500 dollar camera system

also can you give the the nubers for the rates? on your swash thanks!!!
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ORIGINAL: FILE IFR

Smooth flying T-Rex 450 SE without HeliCommand, just using expo on the swash.

Glad you got it working now Andrew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl-jCgPtUDI
Very good skills ! Look like you are flying Trex far away from you....how are you not loosing orientation?

I guess..skills ...:-)

Some my Trex-450 video here(w/o HELICOMMAND): http://www.rcuvideos.com/video/HeliSept1st2008-wmv

...and another one from the board of Trex-500 with the same Panasonic camera: http://www.rcuvideos.com/video/HQTre...NASONICS10-wmv

Even w/o helicommand Trex500 is very stable machine.

Thanks,
Andrew.
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Thanks guys!


I don't have huge throws on my swash, they're set at (in the AFR) 40% for both Elev and Aileron. Max pitch on this one is +9 degrees

My Expo settings are -16% (Futaba) on Elev and Aileron.

On this SE (in the vid) I have a 220mm flybar rod with 2 weights on each side and Align's heaviest paddles offered. That whole combination and settings keep the heli tame.

I have 2 other SE's that are set up differently... I can flip them over in a 10 foot area, but they're a bear to hover smooth, especially after being jacked-up on coffee .

Andrew, watched your vid, you fly smooth enough w/o HeliCommand... It looks great!

As for me flying far away (in the vid), it always seems real far away in any video, but I DO go too far away at times. When I get out too far I focus my trust on my last stick position and attitude of the heli and fight the urge to NOT freak out... when it comes back into 'view', my breathing returns to normal!
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Yes, for me not to get freaked out is the most difficult par when I am start loosing orientation ..ha..ha...ha...o...oh...well...

Practise and one more time practice is the way for success I think :-)

Andrew.

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