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Pedro22 03-05-2008 08:19 PM

I have a problem
 
Hi guys , I am having problems with my tail going up/down...not side way like hunting just up/down, I have tried increase rpm changing settings playing with my pitch and throttle with no joy, any idea?
thank you guys
Pedro

gnd2 03-05-2008 08:26 PM

RE: I have a problem
 
What heli? What's your RPM? Are the blades balanced? Is the tracking good? Is the tail belt tension good? Are the main and feathering shafts bent? Has it been crashed?

Pedro22 03-05-2008 08:34 PM

RE: I have a problem
 
Is the TREX 450 The heli never crash, everything seems to be in level,,,,,but not quite sure.....I dont have vibration.....

Pedro22 03-05-2008 08:35 PM

RE: I have a problem
 
and yes the tracking is perfect and the tail belt tension is normal......??????????

srouthouse 03-05-2008 09:38 PM

RE: I have a problem
 
up and down could be a tail blade balance problem, belt missing teeth and or a gear problem as well the blade grips need to be tightened the same and both pretty loose [blades should move freely]. possibly belt tension to tight as well.

no need to run 2 post we get it

babyhuey 03-05-2008 10:29 PM

RE: I have a problem
 
Make sure that you flybar paddles are level.

simplyraptor 03-06-2008 05:25 AM

RE: I have a problem
 
I have seen this Twice on two seperate 450's on both occasions it is has been a head spead issue, you may have too much pitch and not enough head speed when hovering.

Recheck your pitch then adjust your throttle curve[sm=thumbs_up.gif]

MiniCwik 03-06-2008 07:31 AM

RE: I have a problem
 
Yep, you need more headspeed.

Also check your tail belt's tension to be sure it is not too tight.

And be sure that your main blade grips are also not too tight.

Pedro22 03-06-2008 05:45 PM

RE: I have a problem
 
What should be the proportion pitch/head speed.??????...during hovering I dont fly 3D

Pedro22 03-06-2008 05:47 PM

RE: I have a problem
 
I forgot my radio is DX7........any good curves config just to have an idea?

goldslinger 03-06-2008 11:51 PM

RE: I have a problem
 
Make sure the main blades are EQUAL in tightness (looseness) as this could cause a 'hula'

Check the paddles and make sure they are parallel to the cage

MiniCwik 03-07-2008 07:22 AM

RE: I have a problem
 
What is your current throttle curve?

Mine goes like this ... 0, 40, 65, 85, 100 and I have a 3550kv motor.

The manual states 0, 25, 50, 75, 100 but I feel that is just too low.

ksechler 03-07-2008 07:36 AM

RE: I have a problem
 
I agree with the headspeed issue and the manual throttle curves are low. I had exactly the same problem until I changed the curve. I fly in idle 1 or 2. The lowest (1) curve is 95, 85, 80, 90, 95.

Pedro22 03-08-2008 08:50 AM

RE: I have a problem
 
First, thank to you guys all for you response,
Here is my crazy curves config......after thro curve:L-0% 1-65% 2-87% 3-95% H-100
Pitch (normal) L-15% 1-70% 2-80% 3-90% H-100%


What you guys think?

Pedro22 03-08-2008 08:58 AM

RE: I have a problem
 
Oh I forgot, I have tight the main blades using only one side, WHY? because the other side came out completely with everything on it and I didnt want to mess around with it....Should I tight both sides at the same time? putting equal force? Yes I have some HULA when the blades are stoping......sorry to ask so many etupid questions but I have being figuring this myself . Manuals are not very specific with this type of issues
Thank you all
Pedro

Pedro22 03-08-2008 10:28 AM

RE: I have a problem
 
OK I just readjust the pitch and throttle curves and the heli is just COOLLLLLL....no tail up/down anyomre ......now is just turning sideway,a little be right (looking nose away from me) when apply power not during hover.....However is not alot but it should not do that eh? gyro maybe? I got GY401...
Thank you guys I really appreciate you help
Peter22

Skarn 03-09-2008 12:28 AM

RE: I have a problem
 


ORIGINAL: Pedro22

Oh I forgot, I have tight the main blades using only one side, WHY? because the other side came out completely with everything on it and I didnt want to mess around with it....Should I tight both sides at the same time? putting equal force? Yes I have some HULA when the blades are stoping......sorry to ask so many etupid questions but I have being figuring this myself . Manuals are not very specific with this type of issues
Thank you all
Pedro
If you don't put a hex wrench in both screws in the blade grips, it will just continue to turn and not tighten. You NEED to tighten both sides!

Skarn

srouthouse 03-09-2008 01:11 AM

RE: I have a problem
 
turn your gain up on the gyro till it wags right to left then back it off a hair

Pedro22 03-09-2008 08:35 AM

RE: I have a problem
 
OK , Ill try that.... bad weather in Miami, not good for testing :)hope tomorrow will be better the I let you guys know.
Yes Skarn, I used two wrench in both screws but one of them it was tight already since never came out, however is not huling alot
Thank you
Peter22


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