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This intrest in lines and rivets made me recal a thread I read back when I was trying to figure out how to do mine.It's about a pro builder that built a jet for a Saudi Prince. He is in the UK where they produce some of the finest scale planes that I have ever seen, most of which is over my head. Any way he used tape of a higher quality than chart tape for lines and vinyl rivets, thousands.and primed, sanded then pulled the tape and meticulously plucked those tiny rivets off. When it was painted stained and finished it was incredible. A lot of work and at the time I thought there must be another way to do this, thats when I took the task to perfect the scribing I did on mine. For some it could possibly be your worst nightmare. All this requires time and effort no matter how you decide to do it. In my case, the proper custom tools are needed or you might as well go a different route.and there are several ways to do this that produce good results. Leroy

Talk about lines and rivets and realisum check this UK built P-47, if it don't grab your goodies nothing will. Found it in, For Those Who Love WW II Warbirds. I'm not even going to try that. Leroy

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This is were the definition between what we do as hobbist blurs toward art. It does take time, trial and error but for the few builders left in this hobby, finishing is truly an art in its self. Anyone can apply paint but to use the paint in such a way that truly replicates burnt metal, weathering and such takes a talent that others cherish.
Keep up the ideas and sharing of this talent for all of us to enjoy and druel over.
Sam

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I like the color scheme on the first on........Just my opinion.............

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Sam no truer words were ever spoken. Art it is for those of us who dare to tread there. This shading technique is very intresting, those picts Chad posted show the start and finish of it but not how, step by step it was accomplished. I would like to know more about it and any short cuts getting the info. would save alot of research. this is truely the coolest stuff not many do. I like RCU, there is alot more info here than another site I know of. Leroy

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I think that Dave Platt has a video on shading...He's a pretty good modeler too

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Hi Leroy,

Your system certainly looks easier than the chart tape route to make the panel lines. But could you clarify a couple of things, since I have not tried either as of yet, and I'm not really familiar with types of scribes.

I browsed the web and found some different scribes, based on their industry (machinist's, pocket scribers, needle scribers). Could you provide a more detailed explanation of the scribes you've tried? Also, the way it's written, you use carbide straight scribes as well as dental picks. Is this for being able to make various thicknesses of panel lines?

You also mention about "fine tuning" the scribes. What did that consist of, and the reasons for doing it?

Lastly, I guess it might be understood, but this detailing is done on the very final coat of primer, correct? Once completely done, and degreased again, it's time for the paint, with no more primer on top of the new lines and rivets?

Thanks!

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Thank you Scott for the nice words. I have to tell you that when I had plane in first show 18-19th Aug. a member of our club, Chris ,owner or part owner of VENOM Corp. saw my plane and asked if I scribed my lines. I thought how could he know that, turnes out many pro builders that design and build planes to make moldes of scribe theirs, it's the only way to get lines like that in the mold. Then he said there was one thing I did'nt do so I bit and said what and he said you did'nt make a mold before you painted it. Pretty nice coming from a pro like him.

Your plane really looks great and it's ok to talk about how you did your's, I see an intrest here, so share it with us if you care to:) Leroy

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I wrote you a responce to your questions a couple hours ago and tryed to post it but was timed out and it never went, instead I got a bit PO'd. I thought they took care of those issues, never had any of this crap with the other owner. System is jamming about this time of night so hang in there and I'll get back to you.[>:] Leroy

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Great work Leroy
Your plane looks really nice... I'm just about at this stage on a F-18 and I'm going to try out your method
I've been doing test pieces and like the result

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Thanks Ron101, if you get uniform depth with the rivets they will really show nicely, thats the key to success with these kind of details. Good that you are doing the tests, different paints will fill differently and it's important to know that. One thing I found out about base/clear coat finishes is the base coat is alot like laquer, light and covers well with 2 light wet coats rather than 1 medium wet coat. When you paint it use the least pressure possible and go straight at it, believe it or not those impressions can cause wash out of paint in the lines and rivets.

You may be well experienced at this and know this stuff but alot of guys do'nt. I use a HVLP at no more than 15 lb's and not under 10 lb's., small parts I use an air brush around the same pressure, paint viscosity determins much of that. Ron I see you around on other posts and I hope to see your work, right here would be fine. Hope your results are wonderful, they surely can be:) Leroy