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Old 04-23-2007, 06:50 PM
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Hi guys my first maiden was good, the only issue I had was that it runs quickly and lifts rapidly, so quickly that I couldn't react and for a second the plane almost crashes,,,,
Here is the video [link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36onV2uSyFs]Dual Ace[/link]
Some guys noted in my video that the plane is tail heavy, what do you think, 110mm?
Old 04-24-2007, 02:20 AM
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As for prizes? 130 Gbp against 1695 Dkr. I haven´t checked it on a currency list. The postage from brittain would have been a little extra for me. And I don´t think I saved anything by driving to get my Harmony. Flooring a 4x4 on the expressway can buy a lot of stamps.
Hi Mikael,

I bought mine from Kessock Models in UK a lot cheaper £119.00 inclusive of VAT tax. [link=http://www.kessockmodels.com/acatalog/Basic_Products.html]Kessock Models[/link]

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Old 04-24-2007, 02:24 PM
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I flew my DA for the first time yesterday. Power is a couple O.S. 55's, radio is JR the retracts are Robart. This is a very nice flying airplane. On the second flight I had the left engine quit. Had to circle the field twice before I could land, had no problem at all.
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Old 04-24-2007, 02:32 PM
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Congrats on the maiden flight. Can you give more info on the retracts.

Thanks...Bo
Old 04-24-2007, 02:44 PM
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I used a set of 605HD for the mains and a 610 for the nose. The mains are pneumatic and the nose gear is mechanical. I had these in my shop so I used them. If I were to buy a new set I would get the 604 set, all pneumatic. This plane really hauls with the gear tucked away.

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Old 04-24-2007, 03:16 PM
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How about some installation observations. Tough?

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Bo,
The nose gear unit is a firewall mount, I just mounted the unit flat on the firewall. On the mains, I cut out the fixed gear mounts then added hardwood rails between the existing ribs. I also doubled the ribs with 1/8'' lite ply. The whole process took less than two hours per side to complete. I will take some photos next time I have it out and post them.

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Old 04-24-2007, 04:28 PM
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Brian..thanks...there was a retract thread a few weeks ago...did you follow it?

I have over 50 flights on my DA and it is a grat airframe. Lands hot and I have a hard time keeping it on our short paved strip. I have a Fults nose gear...that helped a bunch.

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Guess they deleted my post about my product review
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The installation I used is similar to the one shown in this thread. Make sure you seal the inside of the wheel wells, it catches a lot of oil.

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Just a funny video,,,second try of my Dual Ace,,,
wm[link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=691772#post7529435]Dual Ace[/link]
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:21 PM
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Hey guys, I have been drooling over this forum. Lots of good info. I have a dual ace on the way from e-bay, hopefully it arrives soon. I have a question for you all. I am planning on running OS La 46s. I am looking for smooth reliable power. Will they be enough? Thanks Skip D
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Mine has two OS 46AX's. Plenty of power. Over 50-flights.

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Hey guys, I have a post over in aerodynamics about a problem with my Dual Ace. If anyone can help I would appreciate it.------------Revver Bro#164
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...try copy/paste into this forum.....Bo
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Hey guys, I have been drooling over this forum. Lots of good info. I have a dual ace on the way from e-bay, hopefully it arrives soon. I have a question for you all. I am planning on running OS La 46s. I am looking for smooth reliable power. Will they be enough? Thanks Skip D
MINE HAS TWO EVOS .46 WITH 11X6 APC, ENOUGH POWER I GUESS
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:16 PM
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No La's???????? Skip D
Old 06-07-2007, 08:22 PM
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Guten tag Haupman Von Crackup,I'm running two O.S. 46AX's with 10x6 wooden props.No problems at all.Takes off,and flies very scale like.No more prop strikes with the ground when landing lopsided when I was running 11x7's.

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Old 06-08-2007, 01:18 PM
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Hey Guys, Thanks for the inputs. Keep in mind though, there is a HUGH DIFFERENCE in a FX, AX, or LA. Thanks anyway. Skip D
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I have two AX's in mine w/stock mufflers. Fixed gear. 11.5 #. Over 50-flights.

I put oversized tires and run 10/6 props to fix the prop strike problem. I love this airframe. Also have a Cox Duelist, Cedar Hobbies Twin Stik, and a TF Cessna 310. Haven't flow the 310, yet...but the Seagul is much superior to the Duelists. The Twin Stik is used for an engine break-in mule.

I plan to get another DA, paint it, use retracts, and twinsync.

Bo
Old 06-12-2007, 03:12 PM
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Bo,
Superior in what way? Are you recommending this as my next twin?
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:32 PM
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Paul,

I had two Pica Duelists that I built before trying the Cox ARF. The big problem with Cox's airframe is that the R&D just was not ready for prime time. Lots of problems that I worlef with their enginner to put right in future production runs.

The Duelist is a georgeous airframe and flies wonderfully, it just was not a pleasant build. The DA land better, but the short gear is a problem w/prop strikes. The Duelist's gear is much longer, but the 3/16th nose gear is very spindly. Takes a very gentle hand on take off and landing.

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On the question about the LA-46s in the Dual Ace. I have been flying one for a year now, probably have over 100 flights on it and I am using 2 LA-40s with 10x6 props. Plenty of power. I did keep the weight down by moving the servos to the front of the cabin and as I recall, total flying weight is about 10.8 pounds as I did not have to add as much in the nose as some guys did. I am putting another one together right now with twin OS 52 four strokes. I am also custom building the engine nacelles and getting rid of those non scale looking ones the mfgr provided. Went out to the airport and took some measurements on a Cessna 340 to get a general idea of scale.

I have also had 2 engine outs and no big deal. If you turn into a dead engine however, be real careful or she'll snap roll on you.

Ted
Old 06-12-2007, 06:35 PM
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I have no weight in the nose as I am balanced at 100mm. Flies much better than the instruction manual calls for at 85-90 mm...mine is just over 11#. Never had an engine out...love those 46AX's.

Bo
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On the question about the LA-46s in the Dual Ace. I have been flying one for a year now, probably have over 100 flights on it and I am using 2 LA-40s with 10x6 props. Plenty of power. I did keep the weight down by moving the servos to the front of the cabin and as I recall, total flying weight is about 10.8 pounds as I did not have to add as much in the nose as some guys did. I am putting another one together right now with twin OS 52 four strokes. I am also custom building the engine nacelles and getting rid of those non scale looking ones the mfgr provided. Went out to the airport and took some measurements on a Cessna 340 to get a general idea of scale.

I have also had 2 engine outs and no big deal. If you turn into a dead engine however, be real careful or she'll snap roll on you.

Ted

I have 2 TT GP 42's on my DA and one of them quit on takeoff about 1 foot off the ground. It spun in before the engine out was detected. No major damage - one busted prop and the nose cone was knocked off. I am seriously considering changing to .52 Magnum four strokes. Are you concerned with prop clearance with the 4 stroke engines? I sure would like to see your nacelle design.

Chris


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