i have 2 ys 60's that are growing grey beards. i like to scratch build becase money is tight when your 68 on SS. i have over the yr's gathered lot's of stuff. what would be a good, large, entry level twin? of course i would have my auto-pilot on high to start.
thanks...........
tinker

Tinker
theres not much out there for a 60 size twin. I have a 40 size Islander and it is easy to fly and land. It don't have any bad habbits on an engine out . This would be an easy plane to scratch build the wing has a constant coard and the fuselage is a box but it looks good. In the Islander thread main gear , pt21flyer built a bigger Islander To big for 60 motors maybe he can help with a set of plans for one arround 80 or so wing span. I had an 80 in OV10 bronco with two 60 but I wouldn't recomend it . to much work and didn't fly that good.
In the Deulest Thread they are talking about a scratch build 84 in ws Deulest. If it flys like the smaller one it will be a good flyer also. Hope this helps

Wow! What a question. I don't know of any that are entry level/simple building. I might suggest taking a Kaos and scaling up about 2.5 times. You are going to have a big airplane 8 to a 10 foot span plane is about what you are going to end up with. Sparky

thanks,
well i'm not really a small ws builder, my nurses are not real great on small. they also hate sanding so big is good. i'm hoping to get someone out there with a B-25 or aero-camander. i'm thinking that the plumbing might be interesting with 2 ys's pumping pressure into 1 fuel tank in fuselage. alas is me, i have a kadet wing that i have left over.........lol.

tinker

hi, a bunch of us a enlarging the duelist mk ll 40 to a 60 size duellist kit cut from enlarged plans will be around 150 see the duelist threads on this site for more info and to get on the list.your ys 60 would be very good on this plane.

thanks, bet they will be awsome.

Tinker.
Consider bashing two singles into a kind of standoff scale twin fuse F-82. Lengthen the wing as I detailed in the post on page three called "Looking for my first twin ". Due to the twin fuse and twin rudders, these planes fly well and are very tolerant of engine out.
Good Luck,

Tinker:

I am one of the gang Scalebldr mentioned being involved with a Super Duellist. This is the thread:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...542#post585958
But now we get nasty. The Duellist, while a great flying airplane, and acceptable as a first twin, is not a simple plane to build. With several building projects behind you it's a lot easier. If you've done a fair amount of kit building, join us and welcome to the "Super Duellist Club."

We are shooting for the price around $130 to $150, but that is wood ONLY, no landing gear, not even one control horn. You will need, to start, a wing joiner tube set, that alone is about $30. Add a set of retracts, range from $70 to $300 depending on how fancy, and go from there. So you'll have a minimum of $150 to add, before you start talking about 'glassing the airplane. I mention all this because I'd hate to see you get in, buy the wood kit, then realize Social Security and Super Duellists don't mix too well. I have two Duellist 2/40 airplanes, I like them very much.

Alternative. Northeast Aerodynamics sells the Twin-Air 45, complete kit, including hardware, everything you need except wheels, tanks, covering, engines and mounts, and glue sells for $154.95 including freight to your front door.

The T-A is a lot like the Duellist, I have a T-A 45 under construction. Main differences are a straight wing instead of tapered, and a box fuselage instead of the balsa sheet monocoque of the Duellist. Much simpler to build, and a lot harder to build poorly. It is more than strong enough to take a pair of 60 engines, but you'd probably have to use three-bladed props. I use 3-b props on almost everything of mine, and do not find them to be a problem. The T-A also has a longer fuselage, making it easier to fly with one engine out.

www.ne-aero.com

As I said, join us and be welcome to get in on the plane, jion us just to talk back and forth, or join us to throw rocks at us, but for whatever reason, you are welcome to join us. There are also some notes on the Twin-Air in the thread.

Twin-Air, Duellist, or whatever,
. A twin gives flight a new savor.

Bill..

Tinker:

Talked to Joe Bridi earlier this evening, told me he still had one of his Aero-Commander kits. I didn't ask the price, but it would be OK for your YS engines. He's selling everything off, might give you a good price. Call him (evenings) at (310) 326-5013.

Any Aero Commander,
. flies better than a salamander.

Bill.

thx much......i'll call him. aero commanders are great.

tinker

nothing is impossible,
everything hasn't been tried yet

Tinker:

You are welcome.

The Aero Commander is a plush bird, but on take-off and landing it feels like your butt is dragging on the ground. That makes it hard to hold off on landing flare - you think your wheels are two feet under the runaway when you touch. Other than that and hydraulic problems it's a great airplane.

Ted Smith learned a lot from it, and the lessons were all embodied in his next design, the AeroStar. World's best light twin. Piper bought the design, and I hope they made Ford pay through the nose for slapping the AeroStar name on their POS tin can van.

Aero Commander and AeroStar,
. Both twins, they'll take you far.

Bill.

Hmmm, well, I understand that the Wing mfg A-26 is a decent entry level twin. You can get the short kit for $79.99. Another option is to check out the plans available on ebay. I've seen at least 2 diff A-26 plans there that are listed frequently. If neither of them is the right size for your 60's they could be scaled up/down.
If you want something different I just got a set of plans off of ebay ($30) for a Boeing 80 tri motor/biplane. Now, before you run off because it has 3 engines, you could build it with the 60's on the wings and a dummy in the center. Twin 60's would be ample power for this plane.
Just a little food for thought........