brianl1620

I just bought me a set of plans and instruction manual for the Bud Nosen Cessna 310, I also bought a set of cowlings and wing tips from Fiberglass Specialies. I am having a kit cutter lazer cut me a short kit. I can use all the help and advice I could get from anybody. I was wanting to try an find somebody who makes foam core wings for this kit. Thought that might make it lighter. Also I was wanting too do a 3 piece wing but don't know how. I will make this a build thread for the 310 from start too finish. I have never built this kit before and from looking at the instruction manual, if you want too call it that, it doesn't really tell you step by step what too do. Anyway help if you can !

Thanks
Brian Lowhorn

Mike Mangus

Where are you getting the short kit cut at? I'm seriously thinking of getting a new wing rib set and building a new wing. The old wing was built in 1983 and structually worn out.

DelRay

Brian,

I will be extra interested in this thread as I have built the Nosen 310, it was many years ago, and it's still in active service. If there have been any changes in the building process since I built mine, I wouldn't know about those, but the general build should be the same route. I'll check for my plans and instruction book, I remember seeing them in a drawer I was clenaing out last week, so they might offer some information. The three piece wing isn't that bad of a process, and even better means of wing joiners are available now than when I built mine. The center section containing the two nacells comes out to about 4' long, and each wing tip comes out to about 3' 6". One of the first items I knew I was going to need was a set of good retracts, I went with Robart, but there's also more selectives in that department now to choose from. I went with O.S. 1.20 four strokes for the first motors and have since recently updated to two, new Saito 1.2's with MPI on-board glo drivers. I finished mine with Dan Parson's glass and automotive paints. I'm not too sure if the foam core wings would save that much weight, it might cut down build time though, myself, I would go with the built up manner as the wing joining tubes etc. might be easier to instal and position.
I originally went with a torque rod set up to operate the ailerons, with male/ female connectors at the center section/ wing tip. It worked fine many years, but later I changed that to two individual aileron servos in each wing tip. Good luck with the project, I'm anxious to see some pics of the starting of the build. Jim

brianl1620

Mike here is the guy who is cutting my kit. He did my Ziroli P-51 and his work is awlsome!

A & M Models Co.
Alex Guzman
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brianl1620

Thanks for the info Jim, what do you think about the foam wing cores instead of the traditional build up?

DelRay

Brian,

Myself, I would go the conventional built up route. Like I mentioned, the wing joiners, etc. might be easier to install. If I had to do it again, I would go the same traditional built up route. I've never used the foam core method for a wing build up so I guess I speak mainly from lack of "hands on" doing it. It most likely would be less building time involved using the foam core method. If the cores are available and the cost isn't that bad, it might be an option to check out. Jim

Mike Mangus

I like built up wings better than foam for the 310 only because of lack of expirience with putting retracts and wing joiners into foam. If I build a new wing, it'll have retracts, substantually stronger wing joiners than the original design, and flaps.

Thanks for the cutter link!

brianl1620

hey no problem mike, I think I will go with the build up wing

HalfScale

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I have the molds for the Cowls,Nasells,TipTanks, and Strutt Covers If you need them let me know,,, WWW.GLHOBBIES.COM ,,, Greg Garrison

thisoldman

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just starting to build a nosen 310 myself.. im adding flaps to it.. want to make it more scale. going to do the inside in scale also.

Robby

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I have one about 70% built that I don't seem to have time to finish
if anyone might be interested in it..
Wing was made into a three piece..

DelRay

Robby, with yours 70% built, that leaves just a measley 30% for you to finish up in time for the Ames event.

Robby

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I was hoping to get it done for last years Ames.. Didn't make it as you noticed...

Time is short,, and funds aren't much better.. *sigh* ...

thisoldman

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had my short kit cut by guy in florida.. sure did a nice job.. saves alot of work.

foodstick

No matter which route you go 1,2,3 piece wing just be sure that if you build it in 2 pieces you update the wing joining technology to the current standards. A friend of mine has one. He says that he has seen others built per instruction with the 2 piece wing flex noticeably in flight especially coming around a corner or in a loop etc. I haven't been there to see it, but judging the size of the plane and when it was built I have no doubt its true. My friends plane has single piece wing and it is a BEAR to manage getting the wing on and off, and hauling it requires a large trailer since the wingtip tanks are huge on the outside of a 10 foot wing.

As for the foam wing, I believe usually a foam wing will turn out slightly heavier than a built up type.. I know that people that go that route and know the tricks can really put it together quickly.

As for motors personally I would go two 25cc weedwacker conversions ) However if you don't like cutting cowls that probably wouldn't interest you.

I have seen both nitro 4 cycle and gas conversions fly, both fly well.. My friends comes in at mid to high 30's for the weight. He has also added flaps which I am unsure if the origonal had ? I have flown it a little and its a baby up and around the pattern . I have never landed it, but it seems well behaved. with no bad habits .

They are a real showstopper to be sure, I hope you have good luck with yours !

thisoldman

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anyone have used set of retract for the nosen 310.. been looking but no luck so far... thanks al

stingerman

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I think they are century jet retracts or you can also go with robart 32+ tri gear thanks

thisoldman

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bought a set of likes line electric retracts.. will handle this bird..

thisoldman

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Have mine about 50 percent done.. Its a long affair building it but a joy to look at as i get farther along with it. Have my retracts now and engines. Still alot of things to get as i contine with it. Keep on will have to mortage the house..well not quite. thoes likes retracts are built like a tank. Can not find them anymore. bought them from my local hobby shop. He just happen to have them avail. uses a 14 volt battery to run them. im now working on installing flaps.. Had to look at pictures of the real then and then desing them into the plans. using 12 servos all digital. going to use brakes on it and full navigation lights. maybe by fall will be about done or close. then start on B25.. another big project.

Bill Diedrich

How about a picture of the "Likes Line" retracts and a link to their web site...........

Thanks,

Bill D.

thisoldman

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will take some pictures of them.. going to put them on rcu for sale.. will not fit the plane.. going to have to go to century or robarts for what i need.. will get them on in next day or two..

thisoldman

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if i can figure out how to get pictures on here will post some of the likes line retracts..

DelRay

Thisoldman, in the upper, right hand corner of each post next to the quote selection there's a reply selection, click on "reply". In the text box that comes up there's "click here to upload images" in the bottom, left hand corner, click on that and it will bring up a browser that will allow you to search for pictures from your computer. It has prompts as to what to do. It will also tell you when the file has been uploaded successfully, then click on "ok". The picture files will not be seen until you submit the entire post. On a dial-up modem the uploading will take longer. I usually upload one file at a time, but multiple files can be uploaded at the same time if you wish. Hopeto see some neat pics soon.

thisoldman

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here are some pictures. will do some more.

thisoldman

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here are some more.. al