i am interested in a twin and am trying to decide between the hobbico twinstar and the twin air 45 from ne aero. the awarf feature of the twinstar is appealing. all comments appreciated. tx

If you find a couple TwinStars, make sure to post the location here. I've heard they're out of production. I have one, and I'm not selling it!

The NE Aero twin looks good.

Good luck,
Dave Olson

flaflyr:

The TwinStar is indeed out of production. If you find one you will pay a lot for it.

The Twin-Air 45 is an excellent choice for both a first kit and a first twin.

I've never seen the first bad, or even neutral comment about the Twin-Air or about Northeast Aerodynamics, the company that makes it. All comments about both have been positive.

Well, allow me to modify that a little bit. The instruction booklet for the Twin-Air is a little vague in places, but if you read through it a couple times it becomes clear.

www.ne-aero.com

The kit is $154.95, including postage, to your door.

Bill.

I can vouch for the Twinstar situation, if you happen to be in the right place at the right time you just might be lucky and find one..

The Twin Air looks like a nice kit, but I came across another option. Morris Hobbies do a couple of twins, one of which is a twin trainer. It might be worth a look, you'll have to ask around to see what people say about it...

Morris Twin Trainer

Tigger:

I don't recommed the Morris twin for several reasons.

First, I can't stand profiles.

Second, with the engines so close in and the extreme out thrust, when an engine quits all you notice is a loss of power. You don't learn anything that way.

Third, profiles are ugly.

Fourth, it's not a beginner's airplane. It is small and close coupled, not an easy plane to fly even with both engines running,

Fifth. Did I mention that profiles just look bad?

Bill.

Bill,

1. I recently learned of the Morris twins existence and thought I'd present it as an option.

2. Notice that I gave no opinion, just the option.

3. Now I know that you knew about it too but chose not to mention it.

4. I also know that you probably chose not to mention it as you don't like profiles (along with some other aircraft types perhaps?)

5. I don't particularly like profiles either

6. As a profile it would be quick and cheap to build

7. I thought it worth a mention as twin kits/ARF's are a bit thin on the ground

8. I probably won't build one either as I (hopefully) have a Twinstar on the way...

9. I just thought it was an interesting option (did I mention that I'm not that keen on profiles?)

10. Then there's the GP P-38 but that also has two things not going for it: 1. It s a profile & 2. it's not a trainer.....

Tigger:

Didn't intend to imply a flame at all, apologies if you got that feeling.

I just don't think the Morris twin "Trainer" is much of a trainer.

And I don't like the looks of a board with wings. Did I mention that?

Haw.

Bill.

Looks like I need to offer my apologies for making you think you needed to apoligise for thinking that I thought that you had flamed me? confused yet?
I merely made my own list in the spirit of the list that you compiled...
I think that sorted that out

What about plywood boxes with sticky plastic covering?

Tigger:

A plywood box with sticky plastic sounds like a TwinStar to me. Bt that's not why I never got one.

I just didn't like the ABS nose and nacelle covers. To me it just looked chintzy.

Bill.

William....
It does not look chintzy...

It IS chintzy, cheezy, cheap, discustin', and flat out ,oppps,
family channel.. Well, you get the idea..
However, currently, I am working on JUST that very thing,, a Twin
Star with NO plastic nose or nacelle covers.. Right now am doing fuse... I am also going to extend out the nose gear as I like the
'long nose' look...
And no, those are not lightening holes you see in the pic
<heheheeh>... it was termites,, Thats my story and I'm
gonna stick to it !

Robby:

Your last post would tend to make one think you're knocking off your own copy of a TwinStar. And going to that much trouble, why not round the corners?

If you made drawings of it many people would probably like copies.

And so far it looks good, square corners and termites notwithstanding.

Bill.

wellllppp.. It really is a TwinStar.. I am just making a
couple minor changes but wanted to keep most of the 'TwinStar' look so that people will know what it is..
The obvious change will be coloring.. Green,green, and white..
The nose will be longer with extended nose wheel..
The nacelles will be a tad larger for bigger fuel tanks as I will be
using motors that are .40 or larger..
Oh, and because I like playing with rudders I am moving rudder hinge line forward just a 'tad' ...

I do have a TwinStar here that I did round the top and the
bottom, as well as minor extention to nose to be rid of the plastic
and make it look more like a real plane..

If there is an interest I can cronicle my doing with the TwinStar.
Can't say what I am doing is right or wrong, its just what *I* am
doing..

Well, my Twinstar arrived yesterday. Brand spanking new in the box. I see what you mean about those chintzy plastic parts now....

The nacelle covers will break on you. I had one break and fly up in flight and created an "airbreak" situation. I then layed some fiberglass cloth on the inside and epoxied them. No more problems.

BTW, my roomate has a RTF Twinstar he is looking to get rid of. If anyone is interested I can get a price from him......

Get a picture of it and plonk it in the classified section here for a hugely inflated price, It'll be sold in minutes...

Thanks, for the nacelle info...

Going back to the Northeast Aero. Twin -Air .45. How would it fly with O.S. .40 fps? I have two of them and am looking for something to do with them.

Well, those termites made some nice looking holes!

Building a twin from a friend's crashed low-wing trainer. Using a pair of Magnum 30s and mechanical retracts in taildragger mode to simplify transportation. Would be interested in any Twinstar engine/fuel system parts and/or advice.

makes a good combination. That's exactly what my first Twin-Air has on it.
The airplane is not a screamer, the FPs have enough power to fly the plane nicely, but not so much power that it's easy to get in trouble when one quits. Just a nice choice.

If you aleady have two or three twins you might get bored with it, but this set up is highly recommended as a first twin.

Bill.

I also have 40 FPs on my Twin-Air 45. I agree, that's a good combination.

John

Thank You John and Bill. I think i'll get the twin air and build it this winter. Thanks again, Bryan.