Twin engine Trainer?
 

Looking for a ARF twin engine that is easy to fly, not going to break my wallet, and will give me good practice flying a twin. I want to eventually build and fly a P-38, but after reading all of twinman's adivce about not starting with a P-38 as you first twin I have decided to follow it.

Any help would be appreciative.

RE: Twin engine Trainer?
 

elfmagic,,
You might want to check Tower Hobbies as in about a month
or so they will have in the Twinstar which is a twin trainer plane ARF ...

Look in the twin / multi forum and you will find a few recent post about it..

Robby

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RE: Twin engine Trainer?
 

If you do a search, I have posted my two cents in the past as to how to kit bash a plane into a twin that is easy and quick.
Pick one with a long tail moment and large rudder. I have seen twin long Johns, Various "Sticks", Kadetts, ect.
If you cannot find the older posts, let me know and I will post here again,
Good luck,
Twinman
PS Good move on waiting on the P-38. I did not. Been there, done that DON'T. You are taking the correct procedure. They GO FOR IT. Nothing is so cool in the air as a P-38!!!

RE: Twin engine Trainer?
 

George:

Almost right:

Except an F7F.

See the big nacelles on the little airplane? More power, more speed, more thrills with an engine out!!!

Haw.

Bill.

RE: Twin engine Trainer?
 

My experience is that Twinman’s advice is exactly correct.

I bashed a Senior Kadet with three engines and am now flying with two engines, well sometimes one. It would be a shame to spend $1,000 plus dollars and six months time on a P-38 only to discover the thrill of a 60 second flight. P-38 is reported to be absolutely the most difficult airplane of all to fly when one engine goes out. Flight experience with an engine out on a more forgiving airframe will be invaluable when you eventually put a P-38 in the air.

Pictures and movies at:
http://engsw.com/Bill/

Bill

RE: Twin engine Trainer?
 

BillS, and others:

There are two commonly modeled twins that are really bears on a single engine; the P-38 and the B-25. Less commonly modeled, but still nasty, are the F7F Tigercat, and the Martin B-26 Marauder.

Things to avoid: Wide engine spacing, short wing span, short after fuselage, small rudders, high wing loading, and overpowering, among others.A lot of the problems can be lessened by dropping the 100% scale demand. On my "Tiggerkitty," for example, (my avatar) the engines are a lot closer than scale, and the vertical fin/rudder are almost 150% of scale. It is still controllable with a single engine at full throttle all the way down to stall speed.

Just some things to think about.

Bill.

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I have the older hobbico twinstar and it flies great. I is my first twin and now I am thinking about building a Duellist 2/40 Mk II. If you get to fly the twinstar on the G2 sim it is very similar even on one engine. I also heard from Hobby services that Hobbico will be puting out another twinstar in February.

RE: Twin engine Trainer?
 

Bills I am humbled in your presence. Been there and done most all the mistakes that could be done on a twin. Just want to keep the guys in the twin sanity forum and not get discouraged. You need twins and triples to keep the circulation up and heart rate regulated.
Good Luck,
Twinman

RE: Twin engine Trainer?
 

The twinstar looks interesting, inexpensive and ARF, just what I am looking for. Though I am wondering how a park flyer type airplane will translate into valuable training hours for a gas powered P-38.

RE: Twin engine Trainer?
 

elfmagic,,
The electric twinstar is NOT what you want to look at.. That will
do nothing to associate you into the twin-world..

The Twinstar we are speaking of is a Hobbico product.. It is listed
as a .25 <glow engine> twin trainer.
It is an ARF.. It is a trainer plane<but a kick ass fun one> :) ,,
and it is a fuel powered plane.. It can easily accept .40 size
motors and is very controlable in about every instance..
You will find it listed on the Tower Hobbies site and will be
available in a month or so...
GET ONE !! :) You will love it.. [sm=sunsmiley.gif]


Robby

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RE: Twin engine Trainer?
 

Thanks for the clarification. The first one I looked at was the Multiplex one, electric park flyer. Thanks for the link to the Hobbico one, that looks like just what I need. I am so glad I found these forums surfing.