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Old 01-16-2005 | 01:18 PM
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Does anyone have information on this airplane? I am thinking of this one with a ZDZ 80 single. Will it have enough power for unlimited vertical climb? or will it just be underpowered?

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Old 01-16-2005 | 04:04 PM
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I don't know which G-202 you are referring to. If it's the Wild Hare 35% G-202, the 80 will be plenty of power. You would also find it to be a very well made plane. I know I did.

I don't have any info that would relate to the AirWild version, but I believe theirs is a G-300 and a 100cc engine is suggested.
Old 01-16-2005 | 04:30 PM
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Yes i am reffering to the wild hare 35%. Is there anything i should know before buying this airplane?

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Old 01-17-2005 | 01:24 PM
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ZDZ80 single is perfect for this plane. Set it up with pull-pull on the rudder for that engine. Not sure if they are still shipping with main wheels and axles but if they are, don't use them. I have a WH G-202 from the first batch, it's possible the parts are different now but I'm not sure. Excellent plane though, you'll love it.
Old 01-17-2005 | 09:39 PM
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The current version of the W/H G-202 does not come with wheels or axles. Use a 3-1/2 to 4" wheel of your choice. More engine than an 80 will be wasted in additional weight at the nose that would have to be compensated for in the tail. Don't ask how I found that out. Only one rudder servo is needed if you use a good one. Make sure that the servo type has a good history and track record, don't use the cheap stuff!

It's a well made plane that comes out of the box pretty darn light, even being a built up instead of a composite plane. Well constructed, good glue joints, with good quality wood and great parts fit. It doesn't need ANY additional reinforcement anywhere. You will want to add a second hatch retainer to the canopy hatch as suggested in the manual to stiffen the top up a little and to make the harmonic vibration levels quieter.

The cowl matches the covering perfectly in colors and fit. Rather than purchase c/f or fiberglass landing gear, you can use a file to round out the leading and trailing edges of the gear legs and then polish them up for a light and strong set of gear that also look great. The gear and fuse are perfectly pre-drilled to fit each other!

The plane will need a 5" spinner. An "Ultimate" spinner of one type or another looks the best. Kangke has one in their "Revolution" line that is both light and reasonably inexpensive. It will also polish up to a mirror finish if you want to put a bit of elbow grease into it. The Dave Brown spinner is heavy with rough looking machine work, and Bisson Mufflers has a line of fiberglass spinners that are both light and dont cost anymore than the Kangke spinners. True Turn spinners weigh about the same as the Kangke and cost quite a bit more.

The plane will be easy to fly and a floater at any final weight under 28 pounds, so enjoy. The suggested starting c/g will be a safe starting point, but can be moved aft about 1/2 inch and still be on the safe side.

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Old 01-17-2005 | 09:56 PM
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I also have wild hare's 35% 202 with the zdz 80, fanastic combo!!!!!!!!!!!! almost 200 flights at this point! The zdz 80 seems to be the perfect engine for this airframe. Peace, D
Old 01-18-2005 | 07:18 PM
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Do any of you guys have your own pics of this airplane? I like to see peoples personnal airplanes instead of the ones made by the company

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Old 01-18-2005 | 07:24 PM
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Hi LeBlanc, pm your email and I'll send a couple of pics and a vid if I can get it to download. Dave
Old 01-18-2005 | 07:45 PM
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The plane will be easy to fly and a floater at any final weight under 28 pounds
Wow, that's seems a little heavy. Mine is right at 24 lbs. with a ZDZ80, stock gear and wing tube, dual Rx batteries, single servo for rudder pull-pull, and a 4 ounce pilot.
Old 01-18-2005 | 07:47 PM
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Old 01-18-2005 | 08:50 PM
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I would also like to see some pics of the setup and overall plane. I have one due in a day or two ([email protected]) thats getting a ZDZ80. Especially, if anyone has a pic of the ZDZ engine mount to the box that shows cutout and throttle/choke setup. I starting to get excited
Old 01-18-2005 | 09:41 PM
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That would be a great pic for me to see too about the engien and the choke

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Old 01-18-2005 | 11:43 PM
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What do you guys think about this plane with the zenoah gt-80?

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Old 01-18-2005 | 11:54 PM
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The Zenoah will fly it fine if you prop the engine right. Dump the stock exhaust system and contact RCIGN to find out which ones work best. He's likely to say Abell R/C. The GT 80 likes to spin more rpm than most 80's for it to work in it's correct power band.

My Giles has a Brison 105 (6.4) on it so the engine installation won't help much. I'll try to e-mail some pics to you guys since I never can get uploads through to the forums. No, it doesn't weigh 28 pounds, closer to 25-1/2.
Old 01-19-2005 | 12:04 AM
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The GT-80 is a brick. It weighs about 2 1/2 lbs. more than the ZDZ80 and is rated at 5.8 HP compared to 8 HP for the ZDZ. That extra weight w/less power will kill the performance.
Old 01-19-2005 | 12:06 AM
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can someone make me a list of everything they have on their giles g-202 from wild hare rc?
Like the servos, extensions, batterys, tank ect..

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Old 01-19-2005 | 12:14 AM
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An itemized list would be pretty long. Are you looking for a total dollar amount RTF?
Old 01-19-2005 | 12:30 AM
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Yes that would work. I forgot that if i get the plane it will be in it. I will be getting the zdz 80 single with the pitts style muffler. Than i need everything but charger batteries and transmitter.

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Old 01-19-2005 | 12:40 AM
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It would be a very long list indeed.

From Wild Hare:
Plane, pilot, and instrument panel. Also ordered a Dave Brown 5" spinner but didn't like it after the fact. A Kangke "Revolution" 5" Ultimate spinner looks better and is lighter.

Fromeco:
(2) 4,400 Li-ons and Super Regulated Reliaswitches (redundant radio electricals)
(1) 2,200 li-on and regulator for ignition

Cermark:
Various servo extensions up to 36" in length. Hard wired to servos wherever long servo leads were required.

JR/Horizon:
(3) Matchboxes, 1 for elevators, and 2 for ailerons (if you run dual servo ailerons.)
(7) 8611 servos, single servo on rudder.
(1) 4721 servo for throttle

SWB Manufacturing:
(2) 1-1/4' servo arms
(4) 1-1/2" servo arms
(1) 3" double arm (that's 1-1/2" each side from center)
(2) 4-40 pull/pull connections

Micro Fasteners:
Various screws, washers, nuts and bolts. Good selection of 4mm nickle plated button head screws.

Dubro:
(1) 32 ounce gas tank and fuel line
(1) gas filter

Pat
Old 01-19-2005 | 12:51 AM
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What is the approx. price at the end?

And the li-lon battery, are they the same as li-po? I've only heard about NICD and NIMH and of course li-po. If it's li-po is it only one or two cell? And if it's none of those I could use some info on them.

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Sort of new to giant aircraft

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Old 01-19-2005 | 02:36 AM
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It's lithium ion. Better information than I can give is available through Duralite batteries and Fromeco.

They are larger than li-pos and are in their own can instead of a thinly wrapped case. Energy density is relatively high and need to be regulated down to 6 volts, as would a li-po. Much better than nicad or nimh batteries, IMO.

The final dollar cost will vary tremendously depending on how you set up the plane. I went to the high side using all JR 8611 servos, Matchboxes, dual aileron servos, redundant batteries with adjustable regulators, and a 105cc twin engine. Without being specific, the final cost of my 35% Giles was double the final cost of a 28% Edge or Extra. It could be done for much less than what I put in mine. It could also be done at a higher cost.

Talk to Ralph at RCIGN1 about the GT80. I'm certain that he can provide you with some solidly accurate information about how to get the most out of the engine. I'm not going to suggest any one engine or manufacturer over another. In the 80cc and up sizes, most all of them are good, with some being better than others for certain tasks. It will come down to what you want to do with the plane to determine the engine size and type. I like 3D along with normal and IMAC type aerobatics, so a larger engine is usually required for this purpose.

There's nothing wrong with being new to giant scale and gassers. Few have started in the larger sizes. Did you receive the pictures that I sent you?

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Old 01-19-2005 | 10:36 AM
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I m sorry to tell you that no i did not receive them. Try again

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Old 01-19-2005 | 04:53 PM
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I sent again with negative results. The same happened with the pics sent to Splais. Send me a PM with your address. I can't seem to get the underline to happen in the address line, that may be the problem.
Old 01-19-2005 | 06:18 PM
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ok so i ll just do all the letters separated and then you can put them together.

j a c k _ p o o k e r 1 8 @ h o t m a i l . c o m

Now can you just write it and we are sure it`s going to get to me.

Thanks for your patience

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Old 01-19-2005 | 07:03 PM
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Check your e-mails, I just tried again

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