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Old 01-20-2005 | 11:40 PM
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I have been thinking of getting into the giant planes. I am considering the WH Extra LX as my first.

I know digital servos are suggested but why not use high torque or super torque servos? I have seen some MGs that have 120-150 oz of torque. These cost almost half the price of the digitals and you don't have to get a programer for them; just program your radio.

Hitec 705MG is going for $36 at Tower and has 161 oz of torque @ 4.8v and 201 @ 6.0v.

So what is the difference that I don't get?
Old 01-21-2005 | 04:41 AM
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from what i understand you don't have to have digital all is required is the torque mentioned in the manual and metal gears and those 161 oz and metal gears will work

i suffer from the must have whats thought as best decease [:@] and had some 8611s from a Xmas gift that i will be using in the ailerons as well as the rudder i will see if there any better that the 5945s that where on my original extra

edit; it wont be a fare comparison since im more knoledgable in setup now than then so my findings may be a little bias
Old 01-21-2005 | 06:39 AM
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"Buy the best servos you can afford" is Tom's advice and most other giant scale modelers.. I use 5645 digi's, and though they are not top of the line they do a great job for me.. Digitals are like servos on steroids IMO, they center much quicker and are more accurate.. If you go 6v use NIMH's and get the most out of your servos.. Unless you are going the LiPo route like many then use 7.4v and a regulator to step down the voltage.. Just wait, many will chime in and give their advice, and maybe someone is using the servos you mentioned..
Old 01-21-2005 | 12:03 PM
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I've read that advise on here somewhere before, "Get the best you can afford."

I have a lot of planes already and plan to sell at least 12 to help me make the move to giant planes. If I keep the smaller planes I'll never do it so I figure I'll sell most of what I have. Plus my wife likes the way the WH Extra looks so she will bank roll the purchase for me. So I figure what ever I sell the planes for will go to outfitting the electronics. In other words I can afford the price of the digitals, and the programmer that is needed to set them up, I just don't like to pay more for something that isn't needed.

I guess you can say I'm the middle of the road kind of guy. Don't buy low end but ony buy top of the line when it's really necessary or worth the extra cost.
Old 01-21-2005 | 01:00 PM
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Hitec 5645 in 6 V is plenty for that bird.

The only reason to go for more is the future. If you get a bigger bird later you may use the servos you already have to put in it.

My 2 cents.
Old 01-21-2005 | 04:40 PM
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hey you dont need a programer for the wild hare 28% planes there only 1 servo per surface unless you plan on using 1 channel for both elevators then you would need to reverse one servo
Old 01-21-2005 | 05:34 PM
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Standard and heavy duty servos will do the job, but each increase in the performance level of the servo equals a proportional or greater increase in the planes performance. You can and will "Feel the Difference" by investing the money for the best available with the most reliability. Shaving nickles and pennies in giant scale is well documented for crashing airplanes.

Tha pretty much covers my opinion of who makes the best product as well.
Old 01-22-2005 | 06:27 PM
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I am just getting into flying. I am not completed new to R/C but I am new to flying. I have been flying for about 8 months and love it. I started with one of the RTF F-27 Strykers. Once I saw that it was something I liked I have decided to start building a plane. I have purchased a Funtand 40 and I went ahead and got a JR 9303 radio because I thought it would carry me for years to come. The question that I have is concerning the servos. It came with 4 digital servos. I need one more servo for the throttle. Do I need a digital servo for the throttle or will a standard servo work? Can you even mix digiital and standard servos?

Thanks,
Lynn
Old 01-22-2005 | 06:35 PM
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ya you cna mix them

i think the servos that come with the 9303 are ds811 if so there not strong enough for any thing bigger than a .40 size plane
Old 01-22-2005 | 06:35 PM
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Yes you can mix dig and analog servos, and you don't need a digital on the throttle but it wont hurt anything.. Digitals are just nice for their speed, accuracy, and centering.. Definitely go with a 6v battery too.. It boosts the torque and speed of your servos..
Old 01-23-2005 | 02:06 PM
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Thanks for the help
Old 01-23-2005 | 02:20 PM
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Any recommendations on a 6 volt battery? Horizon Hobby has one that is rated at 2700 MAH. It is made by Expert. Would this be a good one to go with?
Old 01-23-2005 | 03:10 PM
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Here we are in the WILD HARE SUPPORT FORUM talking about servos and batteries for a .40 sized Funtana...something is wrong here...

Do you have anyone helping you at your club? This battery question would be a great one to get help one on one, with people that are able to give you the ground up discussion on chargers, capacity, and weight of the battery choices you have.

You will need a charger besides the one that came with your JR 9303 if you want to charge anything more than a stock JR battery. Once you get up to 2700mah and 6V you'll need a compatible charger. If you don't have anyone to help you in your club, do a search on chargers for your particular battery type here on RCU, read all you can about charging the type of battery you select, the different chargers that are available, and the pros and cons to each one.

Constructive critisism...what ever you do, ask the questions in the correct forum. It will help you get the best answers. We all want you to succeed.
Old 01-23-2005 | 07:28 PM
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RCER23,

With all due respect to your needs and questions, it would probably be better if you were to take them to the regular giant scale or fun fly forums. PM's to the right people would work well also.
Old 01-23-2005 | 10:16 PM
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To post my opinion on the original topic... you don't have to have digitals, and I think there are more people that "want" them than "need" them. I honestly doubt most average pilots could tell if a plane had digitals or not by just flying the plane. I have several digitals that I have acquired with planes or good deals, and I have a bunch of new style Hitec 645s that I use. I really can't tell a big difference to be honest. Use what you can afford, but I would stick with a good name brand. On a side note, I have read and personally know of several digitals that have failed, but you really don't see a lot of that from analogs. Use what you are comfortable with, and what will bring you the most fun, that is what it is all about.
Old 01-23-2005 | 10:55 PM
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Amen my brother..
Old 01-24-2005 | 11:16 AM
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Sorry Guys,

I will step out. I was just trying to get some information. I do not belong to a club so it is a little hard to get information and I am new to the forum. But I do thank the few people for the support.

Lynn
Old 01-24-2005 | 01:49 PM
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Thanks for all the answers and tips.

I have to admit it has been some time since I even looked at the price of digital servos and was thinking they would be $100 or more per servo. I started looking at the one that most seem to use, the 8611, and found it is a JR servo. I then checked out Hitec, as they are the ones that I mainly use in my other planes. I found the 5745MG, that is compatible with the 8611 and I know it will work with my radio system.

It has 250oz at 6v and 208 at 4.8v and is selling for $70 at tower. So I think the 5745MG and four of the 5645MGs will get me in the air.

I already got the funding for this lil project from my boss, and now I have the idea of how I'm going to outfit.

Time to get my plane.
Old 01-25-2005 | 12:23 AM
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ORIGINAL: Salty25

Thanks for all the answers and tips.

I have to admit it has been some time since I even looked at the price of digital servos and was thinking they would be $100 or more per servo. I started looking at the one that most seem to use, the 8611, and found it is a JR servo. I then checked out Hitec, as they are the ones that I mainly use in my other planes. I found the 5745MG, that is compatible with the 8611 and I know it will work with my radio system.

It has 250oz at 6v and 208 at 4.8v and is selling for $70 at tower. So I think the 5745MG and four of the 5645MGs will get me in the air.

I already got the funding for this lil project from my boss, and now I have the idea of how I'm going to outfit.

Time to get my plane.
Check the size of that servo before you get carried away! The 8611 is pretty much a standard sized servo, weighing a couple of ounces. The 5745 is a HUGE servo weighing about 5.7 ounces. They aren't exactly interchangeable, so at least be aware that you're going to have to use that servo with a pull pull system, and the servo mounted in the fuselage under the canopy.

Jim
Old 01-25-2005 | 06:17 AM
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WOW, that thing is huge. I didn't see that until you pointed it out.

Back to the drawing board.
Old 01-25-2005 | 09:39 AM
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$80 each gets you the 5945, that's the most popular servo for this plane.

Also FYI we now have the Hitec 5955TGs which are 333 oz. I figure this is the ultimate rudder servo.

TF

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