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Old 03-24-2005, 04:59 PM
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

Tom, did you request the change to get the wing dimensions to a true 25% ? I am really fond of 1/4 scale planes and just happen to have a couple of engines that are not currently doing anything!
Old 03-24-2005, 06:28 PM
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Since some people are more than likely to put a heavy engine on this bird, what about a slot of the bottom of the fuse in the tail to put a servo. You could still use the pull-pull function and it would add balast so someone with a Moki 1.8 or if they wanted to put a 20something cc gasser in it could. Just my 2 cents... Oh, does it have the holes cut for the MPI switches?
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The fuse has 4 holes pre-cut for switches. Two forward and two aft, same as the 28 and 35% planes. As far as cutting a slot in the bottom of the fuse, the plane is constructed exactly like it's larger brethren, so opening up the bottom, if desired, would not be a big deal.

As far as heavy engines go, my personal opinion is that it's just too easy to add an ounce of something inside the horizontal stab tube to play with the C/G. Mounting the receiver battery aft of the rudder servo tray would serve a similar purpose.

I never looked, but Tom said that there was a hole for the rudder servo at the back of the plane. Too much of a hurry to get the review done, I suppose. Since I killed the plane through stupidity and sent the corpse home with someone else I don't have a way to check it out.

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Old 03-25-2005, 12:19 AM
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The plane doesn't need more wing area, it's already only 160 less than the 28% planes. No plans to make it larger.

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Old 03-25-2005, 12:44 AM
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No wonder it flew so light! Please don't change anything on that wing!!!
Old 03-25-2005, 08:30 AM
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

Fair enough, I just read one of your other posts where you were considering increasing the wingspan to 75" and I figured since My engine for this plane would big a big Saito, I would have to get one from the second shipment anyway. I think this plane is an excellent way for me to get my feet wet with Bunny Birds as the cost of the plane is reasonable & I have all of the other gear for a plane of this size.
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The plane doesn't need more wing area, it's already only 160 less than the 28% planes. No plans to make it larger.

TF
Ok, that would put it in the neighborhood of 1230!!!!! Oh my, and 11 pounds...sounds like a dream for my 160FX. Do you have any of these without the "upgrades" available still?

This plane sound like a must have for the hanger.


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That pretty much covers why I KNOW it will fly so well with so many different engine sizes. We would have killed to have a plane like this in the first few years I had been flying powered R/C. Back then, the largest engines we had were.60's and we were flying 12 and 14 pound planes with smaller wing areas! Can you imagine?

Way back then, when Pteradactyls were still to be seen roaming the skies, if you had a .60, you were flying with the big dogs! My how times have changed.

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Old 03-25-2005, 01:01 PM
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Well I did it.Today good friday it is. I just purchased a 1.20 edge from Tom..... Im praying that he gets it out today or monday, otherwise Ill be waiting a long time for it.[] I have confidence in Tom. Well, Thunder Tiger 1.20, or OS 1.60 which will it be? I have seen people on this post talking about the ST 2300 I was told by a pretty good source that super tiger engines are junk,and not to buy one. This person also said that the Thunder tiger Engines are much better. Any comments? Anyway I cant wait to fly full throttle two feet off the deck UPSIDE DOWN! With this new beast[>:] , Ill get CHARRUA to vid tape it . BY the way, Watching Charrua fly his 28% edge is what made me want to join the wild hare family. Post more later see ya CRASH
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

Correction, my bad!

The Edge 1.20 is 1090 sq inches. The 28% Edge is 1365. That's a difference of 265, not 160.

I apologize for any confusion, it's still a big wing.

Longer wings require more force to roll. That means bigger ailerons, which means stronger servos. This plane is designed the way it is, it will roll on high rates faster than you can count the rotations and will still easily carry 14 pounds and use fairly inexpensive servos. They are just right, no tweaking will be done.

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Old 03-25-2005, 03:09 PM
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How big is the fuel tank, 24 oz.?
Old 03-25-2005, 07:39 PM
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I believe the one he sent with the test plane was a 20 oz. It was plenty big enough
Old 03-26-2005, 07:25 PM
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Crash10,
The only engine I'm currently running are Super Tigres. They are great engines! They're so reliable it almost gets boring as there's hardly ever anytuning needed. I break mine in for quite a while (2 gallons +) and have only had 2 dead sticks (one to a bug in the carb, the other i ran outta fuel..) Speaking of fuel they are real sippers, my .51 runs 44 (yes44) minutes on a 270 cc tank (8 oz.) and my 2300 runs for about 35 minutes on 22 oz. with about 1/4 tank left.
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Crash10,
The only engine I'm currently running are Super Tigres. They are great engines! They're so reliable it almost gets boring as there's hardly ever anytuning needed. I break mine in for quite a while (2 gallons +) and have only had 2 dead sticks (one to a bug in the carb, the other i ran outta fuel..) Speaking of fuel they are real sippers, my .51 runs 44 (yes44) minutes on a 270 cc tank (8 oz.) and my 2300 runs for about 35 minutes on 22 oz. with about 1/4 tank left.
What kind of flying style and prop sizes/plane weights are you talking/

Lets see you are getting.....
st .51 .18oz min
st 1.4 .47oz a min

Thats crazy. I thought that my BX1.08(.7oz min 16 x 6 on 9pound plane) and 1.6Fx(.8oz min 18 x 6 on a 12.8 pound plane) were great. This is flying 3D and pattern mix.
My new Ys 110 gets only 1oz min on 30%. [:@]
Old 03-27-2005, 04:10 PM
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I really would like to know if anybody knows how a 1.20 engine will pull the 1.20 edge ,will it pull it unlimited verticle?
Old 03-27-2005, 04:17 PM
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Super tiger 2300? Thunder tiger 1.20? what engine has more power? I need an engine that will pull it up out of a low hover and send it into orbit pretty fast if I get in any trouble.
Old 03-27-2005, 06:19 PM
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The Super tiger will win that battle. It has a displacement advantage(1.4 vs 1.2 ) & is about 6oz heavier.
Old 03-27-2005, 06:33 PM
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I think if that'w what you want I'd buy an OS 1.60. Hovering requires a powerful and reliable engine. The TT is reliable but not as powerful as the 1.60. The ST is strong but my experience is that it has reliability problems.

The OS 1.60 is the best all around.

TF
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I think if that'w what you want I'd buy an OS 1.60. Hovering requires a powerful and reliable engine. The TT is reliable but not as powerful as the 1.60. The ST is strong but my experience is that it has reliability problems.

The OS 1.60 is the best all around.

TF
[sm=thumbup.gif] & I would add a cline regulator for another $50.00. [sm=thumbup.gif]
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Super tiger 2300? Thunder tiger 1.20? what engine has more power? I need an engine that will pull it up out of a low hover and send it into orbit pretty fast if I get in any trouble.

crash forget cheap engines!!!!!

Won't go wrong with OS,,,,,OS will kick TT and ST ***

GO 1.60fx and you will get that plane out of sight in a blink or appart in a blink
Old 03-28-2005, 06:28 PM
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

Did anyone get any video of the plane?
Old 03-28-2005, 08:00 PM
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No, video capability was not available. In any case, since I only had dial up, streaming would not have been possible.
Old 03-29-2005, 06:20 AM
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Default RE: 1.20 Edge Review, the beginnings

Oh ok, Thanks. I see that you are flying a ST2300 in the review. Do you think that would be a better choice then the YS110? I have a 110 on order but it's over twice the cost!!!!!
Old 03-29-2005, 10:08 AM
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My guess is that the 110 will be a little weak on this size plane for all out flying. If you want to stay with the YS go to the 1.4FZ. The YS will cost a lot more in fuel to run though. Best long term investment/fit for plane O.S. 1.6fx

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I'm not necessarily wanting to go with YS. I just had one on order For my Funtana. A motor that would work for both planes would be nice!


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