dont know why, but my rolling circles are great on the sim, in the real thing, with edge 540 & brison 3.2, 6exa, I'm only able to complete about 90degree, then fall out of the routine.
what am I doing wrong??

Did you add WIND in the sim? Does the sim have your exact aircraft? Keep burning fuel, it is more fun than flying the sim anyway now that Spring is here! IMHO of course.

I don't know what you are doing wrong, but I assure you that rolling circles are easily done with the Edge 540T.

TF

It's all about gas and practice. The sim will prepare you for the moves, but only practice in reality will provide the accuracy.

Hi buchtes
If you are new to rolling circles you may want to try what I did. I started with knife edge then basic four point roll then slow rolls then slow rolls that extend for a very very long distance. This teaches you about mixing rudder and elevator together (In my case any way; mode 1) and now I can do huge round constant rolling circles with either mulitple rolls or a single roll. What also helped was a airplane on a stick and the transmitter sitting on the table, I moved the sticks as I moved the plane though the circle.

If you can already do rolling circles but not with your wild hare maybe it is you setup, too much aileron, elevator, not enough rudder or something else.
lots of practice too.
Anthony

I would say to add a little more rudder.
You should then be OK

I doubt its your setup at all if were talking about a regular rolling circle. I can do rolling circles with just about any plane (including trainers). My thought is (and I have this same problem when trying new stuff) that though the simulators are great, things are a lot different when you have the real plane doing the circle. I dont know which direction your trying to do the rolling circle to?? Typically its a lot more comfy to go counter clockwise, rolling to the outside. Once you get that down then you do it the other way then figure 8's then point rolling circles, then one roll per circle (my one roll per circle is still a bit sloppy but it looks awesome in the sim)

I've got my counter clockwise rolling outside down, but I can't seem to retrain my fingers for clockwise ones yet. All I get is about 1/3 of the way around and I get all screwed up.

Another possibility is that your sim plane doesn't fly with the same characteristics as your "real" plane. The result is that you've learned to fly the SIM great, but what you learned doesn't transfer to the real plane, because you're flying two different planes with different characteristics. I've got Aerofly Pro, Real Flight G2, and now have Real Flight G3 and, out of the box NONE of them have planes that fly like "real" planes. I spend the time to set up the planes to fly like my real ones so that now, rather than the sim being a game, it's a TOOL that I can use to learn manuevers, and have everything I learn to directly transfer to my "biggun". For example, my 35% WH Extra knife edges at 1/2 low rate rudder stick and 1/2 throttle, and will hold that knife edge until the tank runs dry. I set up my sim plane to do the same thing with the same inputs by playing with rudder throw, airplane weight, etc. I likewise set up elevator and aileron response and "feel" throttle response, vertical performance, etc. so feels just like my "biggun".

Now, since the sim flies just like my real one, everthing that I learn on the sim exactly transfers to the field! I'll bet that if you spend the time setting up your sim per above, you'll have to re-learn how to do those rollers on the sim. The plus side is that once you get it right on the "NEW" sim plane, you'll see immediate results at the field.


BTW, you have spent the time to properly set up your "real" plane, right? In other words, not only so that it flies hands off, but also addressing any rudder-aileron or rudder-elevator coupling issues, setting up proper throws, expo, etc. When you do this, then your plane "helps" you do the stuff you want to do. I've seen many guys fighting with ill handling planes, trying to adjust themselves to the plane, rather than adjusting the plane to them. When you see a pilot put up a flight that you're impressed with, 50% of what you're looking at is the plane's SETUP.

Bottom line is that you've got a GREAT tool with the WH Edge, all you've got to do is spend time (and gas) so you can use it.

thanks Guy's, and keep it coming,
hopeful that this wekend is good for practice too, I'm running out of time;
have to report for active Duty right after Graduation from HS.
That SPELLS: No fly for 8 weeks----Bummer--