Fuji 64 in a 28%
07-02-2005, 09:26 PM
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Fuji 64 in a 28%
Ok, I got my uncle a 28% Edge and since he's basically a sport flier, he's probably going to be putting a magneto engine in it. And to add to that, the Fuji 64 since it'll probably be cheaper than the G62. If you have any comments regarding this set up, please post them. He's going to have questions for me and I want to be able to answer them. I've seen set ups with G62's and so I know a little bit, but the Fuji is a little different. He'll probably go with Hobbico HS 70MG's in it but i'm going to try to talk him in to Hitec 5645MG's. Also, for anyone with a Fuji 64, how did you set the engine off so that the prop flange is 7" from the firewall? How much does the bennett mount add?
07-05-2005, 11:31 AM
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RE: Fuji 64 in a 28%
I may be getting your thread started in the wrong direction BUT I debated the same things. Spend the xtra and go with the da 50. ya there is a price difference but there is also the big weight difference the prop flange difference the power difference. You will not regret the extra price tag. As far as the digitals that should be a must. Low grade servos really start to show their inaccuracys in big planes. I own a fuji 50 in a pitts and a da50 in the wh extra. I like both but to do any more definatly the da Brenden
07-05-2005, 01:55 PM
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RE: Fuji 64 in a 28%
I am putting a bt64 in my edge ,But i am sending it to rcignitions for a conversion he will put on a electronic Ignition make a new hub and a cup mount with the ignition inside and get the weight down to around 4.5 # for around $175.00
07-05-2005, 01:56 PM
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RE: Fuji 64 in a 28%
I am putting a bt64 in my edge ,But i am sending it to rcignitions for a conversion he will put on a electronic Ignition make a new hub and a cup mount with the ignition inside and get the weight down to around 4.5 # for around $175.00
07-05-2005, 04:47 PM
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RE: Fuji 64 in a 28%
so why would you send out the fuji when you can buy them with an electronic ignition already from factory. If you do send it out now you are at the da price range and still over weight
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RE: Fuji 64 in a 28%
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Ok, I got my uncle a 28% Edge and since he's basically a sport flier, he's probably going to be putting a magneto engine in it. And to add to that, the Fuji 64 since it'll probably be cheaper than the G62. If you have any comments regarding this set up, please post them. He's going to have questions for me and I want to be able to answer them. I've seen set ups with G62's and so I know a little bit, but the Fuji is a little different. He'll probably go with Hobbico HS 70MG's in it but i'm going to try to talk him in to Hitec 5645MG's. Also, for anyone with a Fuji 64, how did you set the engine off so that the prop flange is 7" from the firewall? How much does the bennett mount add?
Ok, I got my uncle a 28% Edge and since he's basically a sport flier, he's probably going to be putting a magneto engine in it. And to add to that, the Fuji 64 since it'll probably be cheaper than the G62. If you have any comments regarding this set up, please post them. He's going to have questions for me and I want to be able to answer them. I've seen set ups with G62's and so I know a little bit, but the Fuji is a little different. He'll probably go with Hobbico HS 70MG's in it but i'm going to try to talk him in to Hitec 5645MG's. Also, for anyone with a Fuji 64, how did you set the engine off so that the prop flange is 7" from the firewall? How much does the bennett mount add?
Ben,
I'm building the 29% Ultimate with a Fuji 64EI. If yours mounts the same way mine does, with the supplied prop hub I will need 1" spacers to make the 7". I'll just find some hollow stand-offs (short steel pipe or ???) at a hardware store or make some on my friends lathe.
Mike
07-06-2005, 09:03 AM
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RE: Fuji 64 in a 28%
I would run a DA, ZDZ or BME 50cc. Any of these 3 will have good power and keep the airplane below 17 lbs. I did a number of flights with my dad's Extra Special with a DA 50 weighing a touch over 17lbs and was really wishing it had better vertical. The Fuji would povide enough power but bring the weight up too much. I know that the Wildhare 28% line is designed around the heavier g-62 and will fly fine but if you keep the weight down to 15.5 - 16lbs you will turn a good lying airplane into an awesome flying airplane.
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07-06-2005, 12:37 PM
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RE: Fuji 64 in a 28%
I have a new fox(sach) 3.2 on a hanger 9 1.20 540 with no weight added Talk about unlimited ,it would work good on the wh edge but it does so good on my other edge I am going to leave it on .and use the 64 on it. But if I have the extar money I would buy a da 50.
07-06-2005, 12:58 PM
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Well, this is my uncle's edge so I don't have much control over it. He does good to do loops and stuff so he's not going to be doing any 3D. He would go with the Fuji because it's simple and cheap. I think I can get him to buy Hitec 5645MG's though. No matter how many times I tell him, he always asks how you hook a HItec servo onto a Futaba receiver. I may try to get him to spend the extra money on a Brison just because it'll keep the weight down, but I can't say he'll go for it. Like I said, he doens't need unlimited vertical.
07-06-2005, 01:43 PM
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RE: Fuji 64 in a 28%
Alot of people run hitec servos on futaba and jr. the signal wire power and ground are all the same. You just have to make sure you plug them in the correct way because on hitec and jr there is no dummy tab like the futaba plug they use the tapered sides.
07-06-2005, 09:08 PM
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RE: Fuji 64 in a 28%
Well, like I said. If you take one of these 28% airplanes and keep them at or under 16lbs with one of the powerhouse 50cc engines it will be a completly different airplane than the same with a Brison, Fuji or g-62 at 17 to 17.5 lbs. IMO the extra few bills would be the best money you ever spent.
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07-06-2005, 09:11 PM
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Yeah, I know, but this isn't my airplane and like I said, my uncle can't hover or any of that. But I wanted to give him a great flying gasser. He always talks about his Patty Wagstaff, but he hasn't flown it and I'm confident that once he tries this out, even with a Fuji or G62, the Patty will suck...
07-12-2005, 12:10 PM
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RE: Fuji 64 in a 28%
From the Tower Fuji 64 web page:
Practical RPM Range: 1300-7200
Output: 5.7hp @ 9000 RPM
Weight-Engine Alone: 3.8lbs (1750g)
So, besides being a pound too heavy, it has less power than a DA or BME 50 (5hp @ 3lb). I think the $100 dollar price difference is worth every penny.
With the Fuji up front you will NOT have a great flying airplane. You'll have an over-weight, tip stally, fast landing brick.
Practical RPM Range: 1300-7200
Output: 5.7hp @ 9000 RPM
Weight-Engine Alone: 3.8lbs (1750g)
So, besides being a pound too heavy, it has less power than a DA or BME 50 (5hp @ 3lb). I think the $100 dollar price difference is worth every penny.
With the Fuji up front you will NOT have a great flying airplane. You'll have an over-weight, tip stally, fast landing brick.
08-06-2005, 11:35 PM
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Well, I convinced my uncle to buy digital servos and he got 4 5645MG's and a 5955TG. I was surprised at the 5955. So now he's talking about a DA 50 but I suggested the EVO 58. May just sell him my ZDZ 50 NG and then use that money to get a EVO 58 for myself. Yeah, that sounds shady, but he does loops and rolls and that's about it, no 3D.
08-06-2005, 11:43 PM
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RE: Fuji 64 in a 28%
Well....lol! Look at it this way, at least you will be saving him weight 
He will have lots more fun doing loops and rolls now with those digital servos. Make sure he puts one on the throttle. Why people cheap out on the throttle servo I have no idea.
He will have lots more fun doing loops and rolls now with those digital servos. Make sure he puts one on the throttle. Why people cheap out on the throttle servo I have no idea.
08-07-2005, 11:30 AM
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RE: Fuji 64 in a 28%
I dont get what's cheap about the Fuji Engines???? it's like $500 at Tower with a bit more I think you can buy a much lighter and better engine!!! if it cost $175 to have it changed to ignition that the price of a DA-50???
And of course they have to be cheaper than Da,ZDZ or other brands,, they weight like 1 1/2lb more!!!!
And of course they have to be cheaper than Da,ZDZ or other brands,, they weight like 1 1/2lb more!!!!
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RE: Fuji 64 in a 28%
With the Fuji up front you will NOT have a great flying airplane. You'll have an over-weight, tip stally, fast landing brick.
I will agree the light flies better, but that doesn't mean that 18 or even 19 lbs. flies terrible, it's still a great flying plane(s). There's enough wing area for up to about 20 lbs, it was designed with over-size wings for just that reason.
Not everyone wants to hover all the time. There are lots of people who enjoy actual flying on the wing.
Tom Fawcett
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