Another Drone Pilot does it Again
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Geez, I don't think I've seen that much mud slinging since I was at a mud race in Pensacola back in 1982.
Since I don't have an AMA card, I may be out of line posting in this thread but I am just as concerned about what's going on as any informed AMA member. Being someone that races hydroplanes, my concern is that boats and other surface models are going to get lumped into this "drone" debate between the AMA, Congress and FAA. I actually like the idea of requiring purchasers to take a test. Before I was allowed to race, I had to take a two part test, oral on the rulebook and then prove I could handle my boat, both on the starting stand and on the water. By implementing such a requirement, no one could say they didn't know what the rules are and the chance of a quad or FPV hitting a manned aircraft might just drop
Since I don't have an AMA card, I may be out of line posting in this thread but I am just as concerned about what's going on as any informed AMA member. Being someone that races hydroplanes, my concern is that boats and other surface models are going to get lumped into this "drone" debate between the AMA, Congress and FAA. I actually like the idea of requiring purchasers to take a test. Before I was allowed to race, I had to take a two part test, oral on the rulebook and then prove I could handle my boat, both on the starting stand and on the water. By implementing such a requirement, no one could say they didn't know what the rules are and the chance of a quad or FPV hitting a manned aircraft might just drop
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Geez, I don't think I've seen that much mud slinging since I was at a mud race in Pensacola back in 1982.
Since I don't have an AMA card, I may be out of line posting in this thread but I am just as concerned about what's going on as any informed AMA member. Being someone that races hydroplanes, my concern is that boats and other surface models are going to get lumped into this "drone" debate between the AMA, Congress and FAA. I actually like the idea of requiring purchasers to take a test. Before I was allowed to race, I had to take a two part test, oral on the rulebook and then prove I could handle my boat, both on the starting stand and on the water. By implementing such a requirement, no one could say they didn't know what the rules are and the chance of a quad or FPV hitting a manned aircraft might just drop
Since I don't have an AMA card, I may be out of line posting in this thread but I am just as concerned about what's going on as any informed AMA member. Being someone that races hydroplanes, my concern is that boats and other surface models are going to get lumped into this "drone" debate between the AMA, Congress and FAA. I actually like the idea of requiring purchasers to take a test. Before I was allowed to race, I had to take a two part test, oral on the rulebook and then prove I could handle my boat, both on the starting stand and on the water. By implementing such a requirement, no one could say they didn't know what the rules are and the chance of a quad or FPV hitting a manned aircraft might just drop
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Geez, I don't think I've seen that much mud slinging since I was at a mud race in Pensacola back in 1982.
Since I don't have an AMA card, I may be out of line posting in this thread but I am just as concerned about what's going on as any informed AMA member. Being someone that races hydroplanes, my concern is that boats and other surface models are going to get lumped into this "drone" debate between the AMA, Congress and FAA. I actually like the idea of requiring purchasers to take a test. Before I was allowed to race, I had to take a two part test, oral on the rulebook and then prove I could handle my boat, both on the starting stand and on the water. By implementing such a requirement, no one could say they didn't know what the rules are and the chance of a quad or FPV hitting a manned aircraft might just drop
Since I don't have an AMA card, I may be out of line posting in this thread but I am just as concerned about what's going on as any informed AMA member. Being someone that races hydroplanes, my concern is that boats and other surface models are going to get lumped into this "drone" debate between the AMA, Congress and FAA. I actually like the idea of requiring purchasers to take a test. Before I was allowed to race, I had to take a two part test, oral on the rulebook and then prove I could handle my boat, both on the starting stand and on the water. By implementing such a requirement, no one could say they didn't know what the rules are and the chance of a quad or FPV hitting a manned aircraft might just drop
Looks Like Taking a Test to prove u know the RULEs and Proper handeling of your TOY Hydro boats hasen't been an impeadament to the Enjoyment at all. It looks like it has made the whole experiance much more managable and there for more enjoyable. Am I Correct?
That's What I've been advocating for TOYs that fly in the NAS but Many here object vigioursly to this idea. OH well it's redeaming to see one person believes the Playing with Certian R/C TOYs can be dangerious and fun at the same time if every one Knows the RULES and abides by them. Can't do much about the Abiding but can make sure every one knows that RULES exist and are supposed to be followed. Just like Traffic Laws some speed but that seems to be OK cause every one speeds. Sometimes it takes Law Enforcement to Issue Citations leading to Fines and possibly Imprisonment if something very serious happens. Our Problem with flying R/C TOYs (Unlike R/C Boats and other surface vehicales) they aren't Remotely likely to take down some air liner or any thing flying in the NAS. There for don't have the Potential of being BANNED because of one Rouge R/C flyer doin something that ends in the unthikable tragedy we all know, will kill our hobby sport.
OK I'll get off my SOAP BOX now before I rile up all the NON Belivers here in this fourm.
Sorry Frank, LCS, SP, and the rest of U too. OH FORGIVE ME WS I didn't mean to lump U in with the others when U desever special recognition ... SORRY.
JMHO and again ya got's ta fergiv the spll'n my Spells chkken ting got Kilt of sumpton.
OOPS for gots ta tell ya all I's gon Fish'n nope Gone Flying. Hope where ever U are the wather and temps/winds are condusive to flying today.
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As for the other thing we have a few here that suffer a disconnect or a loss of signal between their head and their fingers.
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Please excuse the snippets but a few glaring comments...
I guess you are serious???? But really... surface models getting lumped into the drone debate???
So when grandma wants to go buy little Johnny a model boat you think she should pass a test to purchase??? Wow...no wonder hound dog agrees with you...I think he would like to give Grandma the once over. haha...
I guess you are serious???? But really... surface models getting lumped into the drone debate???
So when grandma wants to go buy little Johnny a model boat you think she should pass a test to purchase??? Wow...no wonder hound dog agrees with you...I think he would like to give Grandma the once over. haha...
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Please excuse the snippets but a few glaring comments...
[/COLOR]I guess you are serious???? But really... surface models getting lumped into the drone debate???
So when grandma wants to go buy little Johnny a model boat you think she should pass a test to purchase??? Wow...no wonder hound dog agrees with you...I think he would like to give Grandma the once over. haha...
[/COLOR]I guess you are serious???? But really... surface models getting lumped into the drone debate???
So when grandma wants to go buy little Johnny a model boat you think she should pass a test to purchase??? Wow...no wonder hound dog agrees with you...I think he would like to give Grandma the once over. haha...
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Wow the HD solution is , tests in order to purchase, and listing RC fields on FAA Sectionals. Swap Meets will be fun......... "Sorry sir but I must see your test results before I can sell you that SlowStick" !!!!!!!!! And BTW before you fly it in the park remember to check the FAA Sectional Chart to see if the field is listed.
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Wow the HD solution is , tests in order to purchase, and listing RC fields on FAA Sectionals. Swap Meets will be fun......... "Sorry sir but I must see your test results before I can sell you that SlowStick" !!!!!!!!! And BTW before you fly it in the park remember to check the FAA Sectional Chart to see if the field is listed.
Thank U all Again for UR vote of (*****). Just hope I don't have the LAST LAUGH when the enivatable happens.
I, Like most of us, have a lot of money tied up in R/C TOY planes. Now U all'z canz start's tak'n pot shots. Makeher good I's got thick skins and maybe 9Just like at the Field) when posting here one should "Leave your Feelings at Home"
JMHO again don't take Issue with the Spll'n Mi splls ckkr took's a Crap.
"GONE FLYING"
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... I actually like the idea of requiring purchasers to take a test. Before I was allowed to race, I had to take a two part test, oral on the rulebook and then prove I could handle my boat, both on the starting stand and on the water. By implementing such a requirement, no one could say they didn't know what the rules are and the chance of a quad or FPV hitting a manned aircraft might just drop
The FAA has its sights focused primarily on commercial UAV operations. However, I am guessing we might see stricter regulations for hobby/recreational operations if there is an incident that causes actual damage to a full scale aircraft and/or the people contained within said aircraft.
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They would have to change the law first!
However, I am guessing we might see stricter regulations for hobby/recreational operations if there is an incident that causes actual damage to a full scale aircraft and/or the people contained within said aircraft.
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Really Joe? Since all RC aircraft are "drones" perhaps you might be more specific in what clubs don't like....
- A single rotor RC heli with a camera?
- A single rotor RC heli flying FPV?
- A 1/4 scale Cub with a camera?
- A 1/4 scale Cub flying FPV?
- A multi rotor heli flying with a conventional RC visual pilot?
- A multi rorot heli flying with a camera?
- A multi rotor heli flying FPV?
- Any RC plane, heli, multi rotor flying with GPS waypoint?
- Any scale RC model of a plane built since WW2?
- Any electric model?
- Any ARF?
- Any foamy?
Please explain why you would not want any of the above at your club?
- A single rotor RC heli with a camera?
- A single rotor RC heli flying FPV?
- A 1/4 scale Cub with a camera?
- A 1/4 scale Cub flying FPV?
- A multi rotor heli flying with a conventional RC visual pilot?
- A multi rorot heli flying with a camera?
- A multi rotor heli flying FPV?
- Any RC plane, heli, multi rotor flying with GPS waypoint?
- Any scale RC model of a plane built since WW2?
- Any electric model?
- Any ARF?
- Any foamy?
Please explain why you would not want any of the above at your club?
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If you are equating FPV with the pictures taken while traveling around the country, then I think you simply do not "get it". Its not about that. It's about better control of your RC, from the perspective a full scale aerobatic pilot would have for example.
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Good point. However, I could see the law being changed quickly if a sUAV, model aircraft, etc. damaged or destroyed a full-scale aircraft, and/or killed someone. Lobbying for such changes from organizations such as the Airline Pilot's Association, the AOPA, etc, and agencies such as the FAA and Homeland Security would be enough to get this ball rolling.
Barring such an incident, I think the hobby/recreational use of model aircraft, sUAVs, etc. is relatively safe from stricter regulations. Despite what others believe, I don't think there is a substantial risk that an incident such as this will occur in the foreseeable future. Anything can happen, though.
Barring such an incident, I think the hobby/recreational use of model aircraft, sUAVs, etc. is relatively safe from stricter regulations. Despite what others believe, I don't think there is a substantial risk that an incident such as this will occur in the foreseeable future. Anything can happen, though.
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I have seen plenty of the videos taken of trees and grass by the cameras mounted on rc planes or FPVs ! Yea whoopy ! Ride your bike to the top of Pikes Peak and stop and take pictures or go through death vally when its 105 and take a few pics ,canoyon of fire and red rock in vegas . Take the redwood forest run they have every year in CA. .lmao Not even in the same leage of living it and seeing it in person. Most will never see it in person but it shure beats you guys way trust me.How many of the FPVs or cameras do you own sport flyer ? Fly your plane with your camera mounted on it and get a few pictures of you controling it . Ha HA yep thats fun ! lmao joe
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#946
Geez, I don't think I've seen that much mud slinging since I was at a mud race in Pensacola back in 1982.
Since I don't have an AMA card, I may be out of line posting in this thread but I am just as concerned about what's going on as any informed AMA member. Being someone that races hydroplanes, my concern is that boats and other surface models are going to get lumped into this "drone" debate between the AMA, Congress and FAA. I actually like the idea of requiring purchasers to take a test. Before I was allowed to race, I had to take a two part test, oral on the rulebook and then prove I could handle my boat, both on the starting stand and on the water. By implementing such a requirement, no one could say they didn't know what the rules are and the chance of a quad or FPV hitting a manned aircraft might just drop
Since I don't have an AMA card, I may be out of line posting in this thread but I am just as concerned about what's going on as any informed AMA member. Being someone that races hydroplanes, my concern is that boats and other surface models are going to get lumped into this "drone" debate between the AMA, Congress and FAA. I actually like the idea of requiring purchasers to take a test. Before I was allowed to race, I had to take a two part test, oral on the rulebook and then prove I could handle my boat, both on the starting stand and on the water. By implementing such a requirement, no one could say they didn't know what the rules are and the chance of a quad or FPV hitting a manned aircraft might just drop
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Looks Like Taking a Test to prove u know the RULEs and Proper handeling of your TOY Hydro boats hasen't been an impeadament to the Enjoyment at all. It looks like it has made the whole experiance much more managable and there for more enjoyable. Am I Correct?
That's What I've been advocating for TOYs that fly in the NAS but Many here object vigioursly to this idea. OH well it's redeaming to see one person believes the Playing with Certian R/C TOYs can be dangerious and fun at the same time if every one Knows the RULES and abides by them. Can't do much about the Abiding but can make sure every one knows that RULES exist and are supposed to be followed. Just like Traffic Laws some speed but that seems to be OK cause every one speeds. Sometimes it takes Law Enforcement to Issue Citations leading to Fines and possibly Imprisonment if something very serious happens. Our Problem with flying R/C TOYs (Unlike R/C Boats and other surface vehicales) they aren't Remotely likely to take down some air liner or any thing flying in the NAS. There for don't have the Potential of being BANNED because of one Rouge R/C flyer doin something that ends in the unthikable tragedy we all know, will kill our hobby sport.
OK I'll get off my SOAP BOX now before I rile up all the NON Belivers here in this fourm.
Sorry Frank, LCS, SP, and the rest of U too. OH FORGIVE ME WS I didn't mean to lump U in with the others when U desever special recognition ... SORRY.
JMHO and again ya got's ta fergiv the spll'n my Spells chkken ting got Kilt of sumpton.
OOPS for gots ta tell ya all I's gon Fish'n nope Gone Flying. Hope where ever U are the wather and temps/winds are condusive to flying today.
Looks Like Taking a Test to prove u know the RULEs and Proper handeling of your TOY Hydro boats hasen't been an impeadament to the Enjoyment at all. It looks like it has made the whole experiance much more managable and there for more enjoyable. Am I Correct?
That's What I've been advocating for TOYs that fly in the NAS but Many here object vigioursly to this idea. OH well it's redeaming to see one person believes the Playing with Certian R/C TOYs can be dangerious and fun at the same time if every one Knows the RULES and abides by them. Can't do much about the Abiding but can make sure every one knows that RULES exist and are supposed to be followed. Just like Traffic Laws some speed but that seems to be OK cause every one speeds. Sometimes it takes Law Enforcement to Issue Citations leading to Fines and possibly Imprisonment if something very serious happens. Our Problem with flying R/C TOYs (Unlike R/C Boats and other surface vehicales) they aren't Remotely likely to take down some air liner or any thing flying in the NAS. There for don't have the Potential of being BANNED because of one Rouge R/C flyer doin something that ends in the unthikable tragedy we all know, will kill our hobby sport.
OK I'll get off my SOAP BOX now before I rile up all the NON Belivers here in this fourm.
Sorry Frank, LCS, SP, and the rest of U too. OH FORGIVE ME WS I didn't mean to lump U in with the others when U desever special recognition ... SORRY.
JMHO and again ya got's ta fergiv the spll'n my Spells chkken ting got Kilt of sumpton.
OOPS for gots ta tell ya all I's gon Fish'n nope Gone Flying. Hope where ever U are the wather and temps/winds are condusive to flying today.
Last edited by TimJ; 04-07-2015 at 12:32 PM.
#947
Here is the NAMBA District 19 schedule for 2015:
http://www.namba19.com/Schedule.php
25 races mostly in California and Arizona. Most gas boat races are seeing 40+ people racing in multiple classes. Head up to Legg Lake in Whittier Narrows park most any weekend and you'll see a good group of local boat racers. Boat racing (gas, nitro,fast electric) is very much alive and well in the US and in the SW especially.
2014 saw 125 individuals post scores over the season. Compare that to the approximately 55 souls who competed in IMAC in 2014 in the SW region.
So I think your statement is fairly inaccurate.
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I have seen plenty of the videos taken of trees and grass by the cameras mounted on rc planes or FPVs ! Yea whoopy ! Ride your bike to the top of Pikes Peak and stop and take pictures or go through death vally when its 105 and take a few pics ,canoyon of fire and red rock in vegas . Take the redwood forest run they have every year in CA. .lmao Not even in the same leage of living it and seeing it in person. Most will never see it in person but it shure beats you guys way trust me.How many of the FPVs or cameras do you own sport flyer ? Fly your plane with your camera mounted on it and get a few pictures of you controling it . Ha HA yep thats fun ! lmao joe