Four Hundred Feet?
#601
Caught being the important word here ... When those that don't register Crash they won't be caught because they don't have Registration on/in the R/C Drone, How do U catch them after they crash into something ... U don't.
The only real answer to the real Problem the "Drones" flying "Where, When or How" they are not to be flown is "GEO-FENCING". With Geo-Fencing Built into every Quad/Multi-Rotor/Drone and all present drones must be retrofitted with Geo-Fencing where they won't even stat unless they are in an area
they are allowed to fly. The FAA must recognize that Traditional R/C TOYS i.e. Model Airplanes and the like are NOT the Problem Never were Never will be.
The only real answer to the real Problem the "Drones" flying "Where, When or How" they are not to be flown is "GEO-FENCING". With Geo-Fencing Built into every Quad/Multi-Rotor/Drone and all present drones must be retrofitted with Geo-Fencing where they won't even stat unless they are in an area
they are allowed to fly. The FAA must recognize that Traditional R/C TOYS i.e. Model Airplanes and the like are NOT the Problem Never were Never will be.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...arge-1.3413818
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A friend in Florida sent me this video today, police landed their helicopter at his local club to investigate a report of a drone flying at 3,100 ft. (It wasn't them)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Xo0bdosVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Xo0bdosVs
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A friend in Florida sent me this video today, police landed their helicopter at his local club to investigate a report of a drone flying at 3,100 ft. (It wasn't them)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Xo0bdosVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Xo0bdosVs
#604
Here you go Doggie, here's one who got caught:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...arge-1.3413818
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...arge-1.3413818
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Here you go Doggie, here's one who got caught:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...arge-1.3413818
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...arge-1.3413818
#607
Hound buddy , the dude who got busted in Chris' link was in Canada , So of course he didn't have an FAA or AMA number ! Canada hasn't , yet , started registering RCers like we here in the USA do , but it's coming in 2016 for them if you read Chris' link . You more appropriate question , then , would be if he had a MAAC number since MAAC is to Canada what AMA is to the USA ....
#608
The ill informed as always....uggh. Don't this sort of thing really get you? I mean, so some official sees some device near an aircraft at over 3000' and immediately looks for the closest RC field, never mind the jokers that are in the neighborhoods doing this crap - the ones that could care less about registering or the AMA. Really not cool the way this whole things is directed at the hobbyist.
Now, you tell me which is the best solution? Cop an attitude or build a great working relationship? Remember, those guys are going back to their officer and they're going to talk with the rest of their department as well.
#609
Not sure what part of the article you read, but this happened in Canada.
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Darn 8:18 already and I still gota SSS and get to the field. Got a couple of SUCKERS that think they might like to get into this hobby. Gota set the Hook today.
#611
The ill informed as always....uggh. Don't this sort of thing really get you? I mean, so some official sees some device near an aircraft at over 3000' and immediately looks for the closest RC field, never mind the jokers that are in the neighborhoods doing this crap - the ones that could care less about registering or the AMA. Really not cool the way this whole things is directed at the hobbyist.
#612
Interesting to note that Canada is following the US in enacting "drone registration" laws , and It's also worth noting that the Canadian police used existing laws to charge the drone operator with . Interfering with manned flight operations has been illegal a lot longer than most people realize , it predates 9/11/01 in this country and I'm sure the same goes for Canada . A bit of well publicized application of existing law should wake people up to the fact that an airport really is about the single worst place ever to fly anything remote controlled , unless that airport happens to be hosting a model aircraft event .....
#613
The ill informed as always....uggh. Don't this sort of thing really get you? I mean, so some official sees some device near an aircraft at over 3000' and immediately looks for the closest RC field, never mind the jokers that are in the neighborhoods doing this crap - the ones that could care less about registering or the AMA. Really not cool the way this whole things is directed at the hobbyist.
This is absolutely a wonderful thing. Plus, you get a mini airshow.
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The only thing really not cool is your attitude. I would love to have them land at our club field. I love to have the opportunity to show them what we fly, our appreciation for what they do, and how safe we fly always yielding to manned aircraft. I'd pull out my copy of the AMA safety code that I always keep in my field box and show them the safety rules that every member of my club follows and explain there's no way any member of my club would be flying at 3000ft. I would let them know how we self-police the surrounding area for rogue drone flyers and let them know we will report any suspicious activity. I'd also give them my contact information and the club's contact information in case they have any additional questions. I'd ask for their contact information as well.
Now, you tell me which is the best solution? Cop an attitude or build a great working relationship? Remember, those guys are going back to their officer and they're going to talk with the rest of their department as well.
Now, you tell me which is the best solution? Cop an attitude or build a great working relationship? Remember, those guys are going back to their officer and they're going to talk with the rest of their department as well.
I am all for getting the LEs involved, educated, and even hanging out together. I have LE friends, worked for LEs, and we have had LEs at our field hanging out with us. One of our members is a retired state trouper. We do educate them and have a great relationship with them.
The point here is them hitting the local RC field as they did was not needed and it would be interesting to see if they hit the first RC field they could instead of policing the area neighborhoods for those that actually pulled the stunt, if there was actually a real incident at all.
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The ill informed as always....uggh. Don't this sort of thing really get you? I mean, so some official sees some device near an aircraft at over 3000' and immediately looks for the closest RC field, never mind the jokers that are in the neighborhoods doing this crap - the ones that could care less about registering or the AMA. Really not cool the way this whole things is directed at the hobbyist.
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Make a stencil and used Permanent Magic Marker. It produces quite accurate numbers that won't disrupt your paint scheme or will stand out depending on your choice of color.
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No, you are missing the point I am trying to make in my post.That event was mishandled plain and simple.
I am all for getting the LEs involved, educated, and even hanging out together. I have LE friends, worked for LEs, and we have had LEs at our field hanging out with us. One of our members is a retired state trouper. We do educate them and have a great relationship with them.
The point here is them hitting the local RC field as they did was not needed and it would be interesting to see if they hit the first RC field they could instead of policing the area neighborhoods for those that actually pulled the stunt, if there was actually a real incident at all.
I am all for getting the LEs involved, educated, and even hanging out together. I have LE friends, worked for LEs, and we have had LEs at our field hanging out with us. One of our members is a retired state trouper. We do educate them and have a great relationship with them.
The point here is them hitting the local RC field as they did was not needed and it would be interesting to see if they hit the first RC field they could instead of policing the area neighborhoods for those that actually pulled the stunt, if there was actually a real incident at all.
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A friend in Florida sent me this video today, police landed their helicopter at his local club to investigate a report of a drone flying at 3,100 ft. (It wasn't them)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Xo0bdosVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Xo0bdosVs
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Did we see a big swing with the last elections as a result of the votes? Not that I saw. One district swapped out a No Droner and replaced them with another No Droner. Go figure! We'll have to keep a close eye on future elections to see if those that occur in the districts that voted "yes" have a huge turnover.
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Rob, what point were you trying to make with that 4:18 video..?
That an engine could make 4 props rotate fast enough to stir up the air..?
Do you understand why / how many ways an engine powered, toy scale quad is at a disadvantage / inferior to direct drive electric..?
Especially for the mass toy level market..?
If not, there isn't enough time to go into it here.
Do you understand the point that Vertical Grimace was trying to make or were you just looking for a reason to show us how ANYTHING is possible, no matter how impractical, mechanically flawed, archaic, unnecessarily complex, convoluted, Rube Goldbergish, Homer Simpsonish, economically unfeasible the contraption may be...?
That an engine could make 4 props rotate fast enough to stir up the air..?
Do you understand why / how many ways an engine powered, toy scale quad is at a disadvantage / inferior to direct drive electric..?
Especially for the mass toy level market..?
If not, there isn't enough time to go into it here.
Do you understand the point that Vertical Grimace was trying to make or were you just looking for a reason to show us how ANYTHING is possible, no matter how impractical, mechanically flawed, archaic, unnecessarily complex, convoluted, Rube Goldbergish, Homer Simpsonish, economically unfeasible the contraption may be...?
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2120-AJ60_NPRM_2-15-2015_joint_signature.pdf
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Billing Code 4910-13-P
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
Federal Aviation Administration14 CFR Parts 21, 43, 45, 47, 61, 91, 101, 107, and 183
[Docket No.: FAA-2015-0150; Notice No. 15-01]
RIN 2120–AJ60
Operation and Certification of Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems
AGENCY: Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), DOT.
ACTION: Notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM).
SUMMARY: The FAA is proposing to amend its regulations to adopt specific rules to allow the operation of small unmanned aircraft systems in the National Airspace System.
These changes would address the operation of unmanned aircraft systems, certification of their operators, registration, and display of registration markings. The proposed rule would also find that airworthiness certification is not required for small unmanned aircraft system operations that would be subject to this proposed rule. Lastly, the proposed rule would prohibit model aircraft from endangering the safety of the National Airspace System
I've Highlighted the Important words of the first Page of 195 pages of the sUAV NPRM . Note in the second last line the FAA uses the term "Model Aircraft" not sUAS/UAV/UAS/DRONE but Model aircraft.
Now Just who is the FAA really going after Drones or Us?
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Rob, what point were you trying to make with that 4:18 video..?
That an engine could make 4 props rotate fast enough to stir up the air..?
Do you understand why / how many ways an engine powered, toy scale quad is at a disadvantage / inferior to direct drive electric..?
Especially for the mass toy level market..?
If not, there isn't enough time to go into it here.
Do you understand the point that Vertical Grimace was trying to make or were you just looking for a reason to show us how ANYTHING is possible, no matter how impractical, mechanically flawed, archaic, unnecessarily complex, convoluted, Rube Goldbergish, Homer Simpsonish, economically unfeasible the contraption may be...?
That an engine could make 4 props rotate fast enough to stir up the air..?
Do you understand why / how many ways an engine powered, toy scale quad is at a disadvantage / inferior to direct drive electric..?
Especially for the mass toy level market..?
If not, there isn't enough time to go into it here.
Do you understand the point that Vertical Grimace was trying to make or were you just looking for a reason to show us how ANYTHING is possible, no matter how impractical, mechanically flawed, archaic, unnecessarily complex, convoluted, Rube Goldbergish, Homer Simpsonish, economically unfeasible the contraption may be...?
The video was posted purely in response to the part of his original post that said we "Never would have seen an engine powered quad". That they do exist already was the point. Without developments in electric propulsion systems we may have seen a lot more of them.
e.g. I have a dozen Electric Helis, but if suitable electric power systems had not been developed I would have Nitro Helis instead.
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#625
I totally agree that electric is a better propulsion system than nitro in a multicopter application for many reasons. I don't disagree with the general point VG was making with his revised wording.
The video was posted purely in response to the part of his post that said we "Never would have seen an engine powered quad". That they do exist already was the point. Without developments in electric propulsion systems we may have seen a lot more of them.
e.g. I have a dozen Electric Helis, but if suitable electric power systems had not been developed I would have Nitro Helis instead.
The video was posted purely in response to the part of his post that said we "Never would have seen an engine powered quad". That they do exist already was the point. Without developments in electric propulsion systems we may have seen a lot more of them.
e.g. I have a dozen Electric Helis, but if suitable electric power systems had not been developed I would have Nitro Helis instead.