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outacontrol41 03-10-2009 06:12 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Even if this project doesn't see the light of day long into the forseeable future, I must admire your honesty in how you feel about quality control right now in your early stages. Just do what you think is right for now and it will pay off for you in the end.

Ranfred Radius 03-12-2009 05:09 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Steven,
Thanks for the updates! Just got an email back from Regina, stating that it will still be several months before the PA18 is available from Cermark.

I for one am greatful there are any companies left still producing models for our enjoyment. And I am willing to wait as long as it takes to get one in my hot little hands! Sure beats the looks of any other Cub on the market!;)

TripleDeucer 03-12-2009 06:42 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Steven, will there be a bare bones offering of the Cub with no covering or paint for those that choose to finish their own?

Thanks, Mark

GarySS 03-13-2009 09:58 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Or the Clipped-wing aerobat version?????

ProScaleRc 03-15-2009 04:16 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

ORIGINAL: stevenchao

Yes, our staff have offered to make the darn thing in their house (to speed up the process)... I have already turned down their offer:)

At this time we are not taking pre-orders, because we are not at the stage that we can confidently say that we are in production. Remember, we absolutely will not go into production until we are certain that the new version is an improvement to the orginal. We have to hold the line somewhere. We hope you understand that we are not trying to diss our potential customers.


Peace,
Steven Chao,
CERMARK
Can I ask what you need to improve from the orginal? It was so popular cause it was near perfect.

I have the clipped wing version and the only issues I had were rusty landing gear, bits were damaged in transit and I had poor customer service. Other than that the plane is strong and flies like a dream... I did recove mine with Oratex and scaled it with a full alluminium forefuse and cowling and I did remove the right-hand forward window strut as the real one doesn't have a strut there because of the door; but they were my choices so there's no real need for construction improvement.

ProScaleRc 03-15-2009 04:19 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Oh yeah and it's not a 1.20 size, so don't sell it as one. Mine struggled with a Saito 1.25. I'm now installing an OS 1.60 two stroke with smoker. Lots more fun. :)

TripleDeucer 03-15-2009 11:55 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Hey ProScale, would love to see some pictures of your Cub. Pleazzzeee............

sj3cub 03-15-2009 12:04 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
I agree with you ProscaleRc. I doubt very seriously that Cermark will be able to make any improvments. He might be talking about scale improvements such as a opening door or something, but as far as the origional design, there are no improvements that need to be made. Don't try and redesign the wheel.

jdkxtreme 03-15-2009 10:42 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Anyone know of a good place to get bush type of tires for my 1/5 cub?

ProScaleRc 03-16-2009 05:09 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
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Hi TripleDeucer,

I don't have any photos of it finished; I keep it out at the farm which is an hour away and won't be going out there for a few weeks. Here's some photos I took while scaling it.



ProScaleRc 03-16-2009 05:21 AM

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Here's some more including a a photo of the old Saito 1.25



outacontrol41 03-16-2009 07:10 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Pro...
VERY impressive!! That's how I like to scale to, that high level so that the viewer doesn't know its your model or the real thing! But then, your name says it all. :D Good job!

This is one I built and scaled recently.....
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_16...36/key_/tm.htm

TripleDeucer 03-16-2009 12:19 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Hi ProScaleRc, your Cub looks great. Did you cut the door in and make it work? It looks like it would open. I was thinking of doing that on mine and then started to think about looseing strength. I've got the 1/3 BUSA S Cub kit to build and figured to scale it out more. The bigger they get, the easier it is to work with.
Thanks for sharing your Cub.

Mark

TripleDeucer 03-16-2009 12:29 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Outacontrol, your Pawnee is gorgeous. Ever since I saw Dick Grahams model in the mags, I knew I had to have one. Thats been allot of years ago. Seems like someone finally lit a fire and got the ag planes going. They are all over and I'm lovin it. Have you had a look at Hostetlers new plan. I'm leaning that way. My concern is that I won't live long enough to get them all built. Guess thats what keeps us going.
Thanks for sharing your pics, Mark

ProScaleRc 03-16-2009 04:32 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

ORIGINAL: TripleDeucer

Hi ProScaleRc, your Cub looks great. Did you cut the door in and make it work? It looks like it would open. I was thinking of doing that on mine and then started to think about looseing strength. I've got the 1/3 BUSA S Cub kit to build and figured to scale it out more. The bigger they get, the easier it is to work with.
Thanks for sharing your Cub.

Mark
Hi Mark,

No it's a fake door. I was also worried about the strength of the airframe, so I just cut out the forward window strut, but kept the inner and painted that black so it's not noticeable. I made the door from architect's plastic, added a handle and fake hinges, and presto. It fits in nicely with the forward fuse aluminium sheeting and rivets. For this I used some 0.5mm aluminium sheeting I found at the local hardware store and some Dubro size 1 Allen-head button screws.

Just after taking these photos I added screws to the front windscreen using .01 model railway screws.

I'll take some more photos in a few weeks. I started installing the OS 1.60 last weekend. Doesn't look as pretty as the Black Knight, but it'll fly great and the smoker will look fantastic.

Cheers,

James

outacontrol41 03-16-2009 05:48 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
TripleD,

Thanks for the kindness.....appreciated. [8D] I saw the Hostetler plans. Too late, I've got 2 quarter scale Piper Pawnees, a Cessna AgWagon from Autars in Australia, and now waiting for Duane Habets' Agcat kit to come out. Plus I've got a H9 Piper Pawnee and an old Kyosho AgWagon. I think I'm covered for now. But things could change later. [:-] Well, later....:D

TripleDeucer 03-16-2009 07:29 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Hey James, I wish I would have been as inventive as you on my door. I could have just as easily done something like that if I would have thought of it. One more reason to see others pics.
Mark

TripleDeucer 03-16-2009 07:39 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
Outacontrol, you are well equiped on ag planes. How about Hollis Calvert's Air Tractor 502B? Do you have any thoughts about it? I was also wanting to go with that one sometime. Have you seen any fly?
Too many projects and not much time. I need to get off this puter and start glueing my fingers together.
Thanks, Mark

outacontrol41 03-16-2009 09:36 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 


ORIGINAL: TripleDeucer

Outacontrol, you are well equiped on ag planes. How about Hollis Calvert's Air Tractor 502B? Do you have any thoughts about it? I was also wanting to go with that one sometime. Have you seen any fly?
Too many projects and not much time. I need to get off this puter and start glueing my fingers together.
Thanks, Mark
Mark,

My general rule of thumb is "if I've seen it fly, sat in it, or even got close enough to touch it", it becomes my sought after model to add to my fleet. All my current planes fall under this little self written rule. I've never seen an Air Tractor, on the ground or up in the air, so I'm not really feeling the need to build one at the moment. By no means am I knocking it, though. It IS an ag plane and I resect it as such. BTW...I've never seen a Thrush either. My area has Gruman Ag Cats buzzing around each spring. Maybe eventually I will see them all, but I'll probably have to travel to acomplish that. :eek:

stevenchao 03-19-2009 01:21 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
The #1 goal is to make the PA-18 (Vero Beach version). The second goas is to make the Clipwing version. Ideally, they will be available at the same time. At this time, we are not ready to tell people what areas we are trying to improve. Most of you are correct, there are very little to improve, especially in the areas of performance. The Super Cub will be in yellow UltraKote or Oracover. We simply have not been able to locate a better covering to replicate the Vero Beach version. We do not have plans for an ARC version. Dave has propose it as a later project, but we simply need to take it one step at a time. Secondly, ARC will not be cheaper, as it is really geared toward scale or custom builders

Again, our DPM goal is to complete #1 goal, nothing more. It will be a huge relief for us, if we met your quality/performance expectations. Come by our booths at Toledo or RCX. Can't promise to have Dave there, but you can ask us anything. Can't promise that we can give you answers, but you are more than welcome to ask;)


Peace,
Steven Chao,
CERMARK

beaver180 04-19-2009 06:15 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
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ORIGINAL: jdkxtreme

Anyone know of a good place to get bush type of tires for my 1/5 cub?
Try some big Dubro's from Tower ( or LHS ) I smacked some on my 106 inch Citabria.... looks great I think, plus I can land pretty much on anything :D

crankpin 04-19-2009 07:37 AM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
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Very nice. We have some full scale pilot's down here that use the Super Cub, stripped down, and land in short creek bed's in the mountains, etc. Looking at the video's, you would think an RC model could not take off in these mountainous terrain's.

I live close to Piper Cub up in Vero Beach, FL. There has been some folk's wanting Piper to start manufacturing the Super Cub again, and maybe the J-3. I am sure it would be a winner.

Attached is my stab at a Cub, which is a GP ARF with a little extra work. I had a DP Super Cub on backorder for months, maybe a couple of years, left them $$ info, etc., nothing happened.

Crank

salat 10-17-2009 03:53 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
anybody got spare kit for sale?
Thanks

mimoore67 10-17-2009 06:09 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 

ORIGINAL: salat

anybody got spare kit for sale?
Thanks

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salat 10-17-2009 07:25 PM

RE: Dave Patrick super cub
 
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