tamjets

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6 week every 5 minutes is perfect way to shut them down.
You guys doing a great job.
That will make everyone happy?

Fist few page address the issue is good. The rest after is just like shooting yourself in the foot. Their gone and everyone lost.
Is what you all want?
Remember....when the dust settle. The one remaining will increase their price just to deal with heache.

PhilYabelli

But they did not shut down?

dubd

Tam, I'm okay paying more money for a quality product... that's why I buy your pipes. That's why I bought your F-16 as my first jet.

I doubt FEJ will shut down. There are enough people who are penny wide and pound foolish to keep them afloat.

tamjets

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FEJ not goes to answer you.
How many more weeks or months you want to kept it going?

windshear

How long would you keep going tam if someone ripped you off $20k?!
Sorry, you one of the good guys but you would do the same

tamjets

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I get ripped off more than that in business more than once.
I know not get any good result pursue it. Lick my wound and start move on.
I'm not stupid enough kept wasting time.
The issue well address and everyone aware of.
Now all this left is to serve one purpose.
To shut FEJ down.

dubd

However long it takes!

tamjets

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More power to you run the thread to shut them down.

dubd

I could give a rat's ***** if FEJ shuts down or not, but I will NEVER let someone treat me like this and turn a blind eye.

tamjets

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You are angry man.
Suck that this hobby end up with anger.
Need new hobby to relax.

jlmaviation

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Tam, I don't understand why you are defending FEJ. You make a quality product that is the standard that everyone try's to mimic and that is a good thing and for that we thank you. Your pipes create safe operating models for us and for that we have a good safety record from that.

But FEJ has had many issues and never solved them only hid them. Now we have a series of planes crashing or failing in the air. If this continues someone will get hurt. And we will all be done flying jets and no more pipe business either. There are plenty of Jet Model Companies that will continue to sell jets. If you produce more and have an assembly line than the price will go down because of volume. We don't need a company like FEJ around they threaten our existence so we need to stop buying from them. Or we will all be forced to get a new hobby.

AndyAndrews

You mean FEJ ruined Dubds hobby? Yeah that sucks. From what I heard FEJ was close to shutting down anyway. They have some serious problems in China that make this board look like the Boy Scouts.

But hey, I've got a good idea. How about FEJ man up and make Dantley's loss whole by writing him a check for 20K and start manning up to the flaws in their designs? I'm sure if they did this, the whole thing would start to blow over. But hey, what you are saying is that they would rather bankrupt the company than to do the right thing. If so it's not Dantley's or anyone else's fault. It's their own fault for not doing the right thing in the first place.

tamjets

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Nope never defense FEJ. I had even give my opinion and support. I don't give a crap with you thinks about me. Been in this hobby long enough and see both side.
Like I said. The problem well address and everyone awareness situtation.
This thread refresh every 5 minutes for last 6 weeks is only for one purpose.
To shut FEJ down for good.
Kept going...you guys do great jobs.


Just too bad if they shut down.
a lost for those had kit later can't get parts.
A lost for those still had deal pending with them.
A lost for those just spend $$$$ now can even sell it for a penny on the dollars.

And last....which one of you give inside how to improve add safety to this FEJ for the fellow modelers had this kits.
At least I try...any of you try?
Modelers should help other modelers.
But I see a lot bashing to other modelers that own FEJ.
Was Ali name got drag into it too.
This is suck guys.

dubd

Tam, I see your point, but I don't want to try anymore. As far I'm concerned I've done by part to support FEJ by giving them my hard earned money. Where is their obligation to their customers? They haven't responded to anything you've suggested that they improve upon. Now they're going as far as to go after Barry at Kingtech. Their defiance with their customers and blatant disregard for making reliable and safe planes is what sucks. If FEJ goes out of business it is because of piss poor management, not this thread. Welcome to Capitalism FEJ!

AFTERBURNER1

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+1

I have seen plenty fly eagle airframes fly very well with no issues. All these threads have done is devalued everyone who owns a FEJ aircrafts resale value... If they go out of business there will be many many fellow modelers unable to order or purchase replacement parts. Let alone the the individuals that work at the factory that have nothing to do with the designing, building etc etc of these products. Moms, dads, children etc etc out of a job.... Be proud...

In addition,,,

Posting ad libs on top of their company photo and making fun of the way some of the women look?

Low class...


And no,,,,,,, I don't own a FEJ anything ......

jetpilot

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FEJ dug their own grave. They have had ample opportunity to resurrect the company.
These threads can't close the business but their actions can.
They are low class. Threatening Barry and the treatment of their customers.
Their company policies are pitiful.

I have owned FEJ and nearly bought another one recently.

Scott

dubd

If FEJ management can read English, they should start with this article, Why Companies Fail http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...3712/index.htm

The cliff notes courtesy of Ken Makovsky:

* Most companies founder for one simple reason: managerial error.

* The key sign – the litmus test – is whether you begin to explain away the brutal facts rather than to confront the brutal facts head on.

* Sometimes CEOs don’t get the information they need to make informed decisions. Subordinates are afraid to tell them the truth.

* Some companies simply live too close to the edge — loading up too much risk at once.

* People are less likely to make optimal decisions after prolonged periods of success.

* Companies rarely bother to model what would happen if a key assumption — growth – disappears from the equation.

* Companies (e.g., Polaroid and Xerox) are slow to confront the changing world around them.

* Companies run out of cash.

* Too often CEOs succumb to an undisciplined lust for growth, accumulating assets for the sake of accumulating assets.

* Rotten corporate culture. Arthur Andersen, Enron and Salomon Brothers were all brought down (or nearly so) by the rogue actions of a tiny few.

* Even the most dramatic failures tend to be years in the making. What undoes companies is the familiar stuff of human folly: denial, hubris, ego, wishful thinking, poor communication, lax oversight, greed and deceit.

* Refusal to hear bad news immediately. Great companies don’t make excuses, including excuses about how they didn’t do well because the economy was against them or prices were not good.

The Chinese philosopher Lao Tse, who lived some 2,600 years ago, summed up the surest way to avoid these potential pitfalls. “People in their handlings of affairs often fail when they are about to succeed,� he wrote. “If one remains as careful at the end as he was at the beginning, there will be no failure.�

RCJetBazz

Say your opinion is valid for a moment about the mom and dads loosing jobs...., and the sky does end up with more FEJflying because we play nice, and resulting crashes and someone does get seriously hurt, well, be proud? perhaps you should be, to get us all shut down, thank you.

tamjets

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Put yourself to they level is not make yourself look any better.
I had mention very early on these thread.
Let them fall on their own.
You don't need to push them over the cliff.
Is not make you any better person in my opinion.
I do give respect to those willing to share and help other modelers that still had this kit looking for help to fix the problem.
But not supporting using RCU to shut them down.
Is just low class.

dubd

Low class is to lie on their web site stating they are helping me to rebuild another plane, when they are not. Low class is to keep my photo on their web site after I've asked 5 times for them to remove it. If they want to make things right, they can start by removing the statement on their site and remove my picture.

RCJetBazz

Iam sure your pivot point location has good merit, but to assume that is the ONLY cause of their failure is ridiculous, let alone thinking that is a contribution to FEJ who doesn't listen to anyone.
To judge your fellow modeler's voicing isn't exactly high class itself.

tamjets

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That is truth...there is many things lead to cause the crash.
If you want me to discuss things can done better that can safe this crash. I can write a long lists of things to do and not to do.
But most of you more intersted to shut FEJ down than listen to those had built 100 jets succes flight.

tamjets

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For last 6 weeks and every 5 minutes on this thread.
Look like you are more stress than them.
I had told you many time. Take a break spend time with your kid and enjoy the hobby.
It suck this had turn you in the person that always anger and doing anything to shut them down.
Is not good for you, your family and the RC community.

RCJetBazz

No need at all, much has already been discussed, you won't contribute anything that hasn't already been dicussed. If anything Iencourage Tam Jets to increase your line of models for the market.

RCJetBazz

And so are you contributing posting onto this thread Tam, the worst thing you could do to a fellow modeler is to judge him. Ilike to believe you meant well for Dantley, but if your good intent is genuine and based on the content of your post is much better suited behind the scene, ie. pm or email, since it's very much personal. Just in case if your intent is opposite, or trying to embarrass Dantley, than you loose my respect for you Tam.