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RE: Welcome to Club SAITO !
I too would like to join this club!
Right now, I have one plane that I fly; A .40 size big stick powered with a Saito .82. She swings a 12 X 8 Master Airscrew with the greatest of ease...Kevin
Right now, I have one plane that I fly; A .40 size big stick powered with a Saito .82. She swings a 12 X 8 Master Airscrew with the greatest of ease...Kevin
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Mr. Robison,
An update on my 120 overhaul. I dipped the parts today and got everything spic n' span. I measured the tops of the valves above the c-clip radius and below and got the same measurement. I visually inspected them and found no abnormalaties. Curiously though, they are a bit stiff to get started into the valve guides but once all the way through they are smooth.
Some other interesting observations: the exhaust lifter bore is threaded. I just noticed the cam is multi-piece and swaged together. The con rod has a symbol cast into it. FYI my bearings are 10x26x8 and 17x30x7.
I have some questions about the carb. It is very unique to me. It appears that the disc on the side that the HSN goes into might be adjustable. It looks like there are two holes in the edge designed for locating pins to rotate the disc. The backside has a machined, tapered port with a bleed hole. The throttle barrel has a notch in it on the top of one side only.
Did you say you had a tutorial somewhere on this particular carburettor? Do you happen to know of an exploded diagram I can refer to?
Thanks,
-Tom
An update on my 120 overhaul. I dipped the parts today and got everything spic n' span. I measured the tops of the valves above the c-clip radius and below and got the same measurement. I visually inspected them and found no abnormalaties. Curiously though, they are a bit stiff to get started into the valve guides but once all the way through they are smooth.
Some other interesting observations: the exhaust lifter bore is threaded. I just noticed the cam is multi-piece and swaged together. The con rod has a symbol cast into it. FYI my bearings are 10x26x8 and 17x30x7.
I have some questions about the carb. It is very unique to me. It appears that the disc on the side that the HSN goes into might be adjustable. It looks like there are two holes in the edge designed for locating pins to rotate the disc. The backside has a machined, tapered port with a bleed hole. The throttle barrel has a notch in it on the top of one side only.
Did you say you had a tutorial somewhere on this particular carburettor? Do you happen to know of an exploded diagram I can refer to?
Thanks,
-Tom
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How much fuel will my 150 drink ?
I love the way my .72 and 1.00 sip fuel at normal throttle levels. I can fly either engine for 15 minutes or more with stock fuel tanks.
But my buddies tell me to get ready for the BIG GULP 150. I have not decided which plane I want to mount this 150 on yet but was wondering what to expect. I run PowerMaster 20/20 through all my Saitos and as you know it's not the cheapest fuel out there.
I love the way my .72 and 1.00 sip fuel at normal throttle levels. I can fly either engine for 15 minutes or more with stock fuel tanks.
But my buddies tell me to get ready for the BIG GULP 150. I have not decided which plane I want to mount this 150 on yet but was wondering what to expect. I run PowerMaster 20/20 through all my Saitos and as you know it's not the cheapest fuel out there.
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Sturtz Date 11/25/2005 6:44:36 PM
How much fuel will my 150 drink ?
I love the way my .72 and 1.00 sip fuel at normal throttle levels. I can fly either engine for 15 minutes or more with stock fuel tanks.
But my buddies tell me to get ready for the BIG GULP 150. I have not decided which plane I want to mount this 150 on yet but was wondering what to expect. I run PowerMaster 20/20 through all my Saitos and as you know it's not the cheapest fuel out there.
How much fuel will my 150 drink ?
I love the way my .72 and 1.00 sip fuel at normal throttle levels. I can fly either engine for 15 minutes or more with stock fuel tanks.
But my buddies tell me to get ready for the BIG GULP 150. I have not decided which plane I want to mount this 150 on yet but was wondering what to expect. I run PowerMaster 20/20 through all my Saitos and as you know it's not the cheapest fuel out there.
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well I only have 2 45 specials in a Marutaka B25
1 65 in a seagull P51
2 72 in a Twist and a Sig Skybolt
1 91 in a EAA bipe
and a 100 in a CG extra 300
and 7 other 4 strokes of other manufacturers
do I qualifie
Jean
1 65 in a seagull P51
2 72 in a Twist and a Sig Skybolt
1 91 in a EAA bipe
and a 100 in a CG extra 300
and 7 other 4 strokes of other manufacturers
do I qualifie
Jean
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Hey guys, although I'm not yet a member of club Saito, I've got a Saito 220 on order that's going on a new Dave Patrick Extra 330L. I have a question about mufflers, though... I need to know if anyone is making a Pitts muffler for the 220 yet, OR if it uses the same mufflers that the 180 uses. Thanks in advance for the info!
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I thought I would go ahead and join Club Saito, since IMO it's THE best four stroke on the market! I have two right now. One is in a Great Planes PT 17 Stearman, the other is in a Top Flite Mustang. I am also starting a top flite Corsair, and that is getting a 100 also. The Stearman flies very scale like with the 100 . I flew a real Stearman growing up and the sound and flight characteristics with this engine are incredible. The engine is inverted, and I originally had the corrugated extension on it. Have since put the slightly curved extension on instead, and have never had a dead stick with this thing... I love it!!
#936
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The crankcase breather can be used to pressurize the tank. You can buy an outfit from Saito to do this or make your own.
Put a tee in the breather line. run one to the tank vent. The other goes to a needle valve or restriction that throws some of the pressure to the tank. Be sure and let the engine breath though.
Enjoy,
Jim
Put a tee in the breather line. run one to the tank vent. The other goes to a needle valve or restriction that throws some of the pressure to the tank. Be sure and let the engine breath though.
Enjoy,
Jim
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There's actually quite a few around here that use Pitts mufflers on 4 strokes. What's your reasoning behind your statement? Got me curious now. I know I dont want that big honkin' Saito muffler stickin out the side of my Extra's cowling.
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Most people do not use a Pitts muffler with the four strokes.
Most people do not use a Pitts muffler with the four strokes.
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If you don't want the muffler sticking out... Then you have no choice but a Pitts?
Most people just let the muffler stick out.
On some planes, you can mount the engine at a 45 degree down angle and it puts the muffler at the bottom.
You could run a straight pipe?
Enjoy,
Jim
Most people just let the muffler stick out.
On some planes, you can mount the engine at a 45 degree down angle and it puts the muffler at the bottom.
You could run a straight pipe?
Enjoy,
Jim
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Mr. Robison,
Did you say you had a tutorial somewhere on this particular carburettor?
Thanks,
-Tom
Mr. Robison,
Did you say you had a tutorial somewhere on this particular carburettor?
Thanks,
-Tom
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_25...tm.htm#2519024
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Ha Walt
I am sure disappointed to hear you say that the Saito 200 is less powerful then the 180. The hanger 9 P-51 shows a 180 as the stock installation with the 200 as an option. My assumption was that a 200 being a bigger displacement would be more powerful. Although looking at your video the 51 seems to climb out quite well, but I was looking for a little extra so I could fly at about 3/4 throttle and have reserve. Guess I should have joined this forum before buying the 200.
Cheers from Canada eh!
I am sure disappointed to hear you say that the Saito 200 is less powerful then the 180. The hanger 9 P-51 shows a 180 as the stock installation with the 200 as an option. My assumption was that a 200 being a bigger displacement would be more powerful. Although looking at your video the 51 seems to climb out quite well, but I was looking for a little extra so I could fly at about 3/4 throttle and have reserve. Guess I should have joined this forum before buying the 200.
Cheers from Canada eh!
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Any Idea's on how to hold the cam gear from turning while re-installing it back on the crankcase... Seems mine wanted to wander around and engage at anything but the 6 o-clock position on the crank case...
Here's what I came up with...for my 180 Saito..
I used one of those flimsy temporary credit cards that are alway coming in the mail..
Cut a notch in one of the long edges (away from the embossed stuff) ....see below for the size of the notch in the .20 " thick card.. and slide the notched card from the front of the Cam Cover and engage the teeth that are level with case bottom....
Effectively locking the cam gear and preventing any rotation while you drop it into place.. when inplace put in the two rear cover screws to hold the cover while you slide the Credit Card Out........then replace the remaining two front screws and gently tighten all four down (alternately of course) Don't forget the paper gasket...
It works for me first time, everytime !!
Here's what I came up with...for my 180 Saito..
I used one of those flimsy temporary credit cards that are alway coming in the mail..
Cut a notch in one of the long edges (away from the embossed stuff) ....see below for the size of the notch in the .20 " thick card.. and slide the notched card from the front of the Cam Cover and engage the teeth that are level with case bottom....
Effectively locking the cam gear and preventing any rotation while you drop it into place.. when inplace put in the two rear cover screws to hold the cover while you slide the Credit Card Out........then replace the remaining two front screws and gently tighten all four down (alternately of course) Don't forget the paper gasket...
It works for me first time, everytime !!
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Thanks, Guys....
Don't know why I didn't use some heavy grease, maybe it's cause it is cold out there and my stock is out in the little shop... suppose I'm in my comfort zone in the house...nice an warm while the cold winds blow and the snow hits the mtn. tops.
BTW Kmot...Love the Sig Line of yours !!
Don't know why I didn't use some heavy grease, maybe it's cause it is cold out there and my stock is out in the little shop... suppose I'm in my comfort zone in the house...nice an warm while the cold winds blow and the snow hits the mtn. tops.
BTW Kmot...Love the Sig Line of yours !!
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GSNut: that sounds like a very clever idea!
What I use to prevent things from turning and wandering is just a dab of grease in a strategic place.
GSNut: that sounds like a very clever idea!
What I use to prevent things from turning and wandering is just a dab of grease in a strategic place.
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I got a chance to run the FA-45 MKII over the weekend.
Just a short video of it running.
Not to bad for an engine that spent the last 15 years in a box locked up with castor.
It's turning a Top Flite 11x6 prop.. I don't have any tach #'s (dead batteries) but I should by this weekend.
3mb video
http://www.pontiacs.org/pics/projects/RC/mvi_2590r.mpg
Just a short video of it running.
Not to bad for an engine that spent the last 15 years in a box locked up with castor.
It's turning a Top Flite 11x6 prop.. I don't have any tach #'s (dead batteries) but I should by this weekend.
3mb video
http://www.pontiacs.org/pics/projects/RC/mvi_2590r.mpg