redfisher1974

My storm runs hot to, around 180 thats on 3s 18/87 and 2.8 dirthawgs.

namewasdallas

That Losi battery also is brand new and isnt cycled yet, After about 10 Cycle's it will be broken in and faster just make sure you balance charge it for the first 10 cycles, Idk if it really helps but in my mind I think it does. What Losi battery did you get the 60c?

kaycerc

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i understand that but i would just think he should be getting at least 40 minutes unless its an extremely aggressive combo or just its not really holding 5000mah.

Runtime is totally determinate on how they're running the car/truck(along with gearing, tire size)- if they're doing speed runs up and down the street they're going to get a lot less runtime than if they're running on a track, or bashing around (starting and stopping) in the backyard

kaycerc

Almost anything is going to run hotter on 3s.

wanna_be_racer

Oh no. I have the original Motic esc, it's only rated for 20C batts, (word from HPI tech). So I purchased the 20C 5000mah hard case.

redfisher1974

Really, That's amazing.

redfisher1974

Higher C batteries will not harm your esc, Going higher with the C rating is a good thing.

wanna_be_racer

Oh....
See, this kinda stuff is why I check in once a day. lol. You learn something new everyday.

redfisher1974

Just remember the esc and motor pull amps from the battery and the higher the c rating the cooler the battery will stay making it have a longer life.

kaycerc

Except when the ESC's manufacturer warns against it.

redfisher1974

I was going to take the Storm out today, But it is To windy,cold and wet[] I will have to put my fully charged lipo on the dis-charger and bring it back to storage Voltage (3.85v)

nitro-rob

There is a limit to how lot the C rating can go.  The battery ripple effect (ESC killer) increases as C decreases.

wanna_be_racer

so...if I'm understanding this...

The higher C-rating a lipo has, the general less chance of it harming the esc through the ripple current. But also just because a battery has a high-C doesn't mean it'll overload the esc or motor, right?

I suck at this li-po stuff -__- sorry.

namewasdallas

The C rating wont hurt anything if its high its actually good. Low C rating will cause issues with some motors. I run 35-75c and 45-90c Nano-Techs. The only way you can damage the ESC is if you have a motor good for 4s and a ESC for 3s and u run a 4s battery on it. What happens with Low C rating batteries is the motor will pull so much juice and the battery is limited on constant and sudden bursts and its *****g out constantly. Like when I did some speed runs with a cheap zippy 25c 3s with my mmp and 3800kv it ended up getting puffed up from the motor pulling so much juice and got hot and puffed up.


I always try to run 35c and up, as I run some high drawing motor's.


Anyways I did my first Spray Can paint job on my Losi Scte body It came out alright only got the base coat done so far. I'm going to order the new badass Roar legal 2s max TEKIN PRO 4 4600kv motor for my Losi and possibly try it out in the firestorm. This motor is a anaimal from what ive herd and seen. It's comparable to a 550 size 4.5t motor but its only a 540 size and its super light weight and Sensored. I'm going to run it off of my MMP cause there the only working esc that I have that can run sensored motor's.

Does anyone in here run a sensored motor in there storms?

nitro-rob

Low C-batteries ripple. It means that the voltage drops when the battery is being drawn from and bounces back when it is not drawing. There is a limited voltage drop an ESC can take. .Remember this rippling occurs as fast as the ESC is switching which is 8 kHz

nitro-rob

Low C-batteries (or worn out high-C batteries which are now low-C) can blow an ESC.  Its a misconception that the C-rating is only to protect the battery.

wanna_be_racer

Ahhhh. Well that makes more sense.
So since the the Motiv esc is "rated at 20C" what they mean is nothing lower than a 20C battery? I can still go higher and not harm the esc, but would probably help protect it?

redfisher1974

I run a Novak capacitor in my storm which I think helps with the ripple effect.

redfisher1974

Sorry After thinking about it the cap is plugged into the RX and helps under high loads to keep full power to the servo etc.

namewasdallas

hey redfisher do you run enough preload on those shocks lol, you got them bottomed out, You should mount the rear shocks in the far out hole on top and in the lower arms. Better for jumps and traction.



Does anyone know what pistons are inside the shocks on the storm?? I think there 2's but cant remmber.

I run 27.5w Losi shock oil in my Losi SCTE. So im going to switch to the 3 piston in my firestorm and run 27.5w all the way around so this truck is smooth me my AE springs. It handles great now but will handle even better on 27.5 with a matching Piston in the shock.

I figured out why my truck was running good then go poor in a turn sometimes and after inspecting it over I noticed my tire on the front came unglued and was pulling off the rim going into the turns and making it handle like ****. I re-gludded all the tires so the truck is ready to go when my MMP gets here. I just have to cut off the stock wire connectors on the 4800kv motor and replace with castle bullets for the MMP esc.

Idk if anyone noticed this question I wrote before, But does anyone run a Sensored Motor, I've herd that there smooth but Never ran one just want someones opinion as im going to pick up a Tekin Pro 4 for my Losi

redfisher1974

After 4 years and the heavy wheelie bar the springs are a little weak. The droop is just right.

redfisher1974

Before I went to the Mamba Max I ran the Novak Havoc 5000kv in my storm, It was smooth as hell but they just do not make the power like the Castle motors.

wanna_be_racer

I was lookin at this Novak HV 4.5T a guy has at the local shop here...only wants $50 for it, still wrapped in the box. But idk if the MMp will accept it and be compatable.

They don't even make those motors anymore. Novak, I mean. The Balistic 550's replaced them. But the HV series can take 4s no problem. Supposedly.

wanna_be_racer

Of course I know 4s in the storm would destroy it, drivetrain wise. But 3s on a 5000kv, or whatever the hell it is, 550 that was designed for the original nitro conversions oughtta do the trick nicely.

Fractured

So Ifinally got the last couple of parts that Ineeded fo rebuild on my e-firestorm (well almost).

Pictured:
RC screws kit (stainless)
ST racing steering kit
ST racing aluminum shock kit
ST racing motor plate
ST racing battery strap
hpi blitz "lightweight" slipper kit
Bearing kit
Blitz front and rear towers
Shock socks
proline desperados/dirt hawgs

Not pictured:
zippy lipo
small random stuff (ball ends etc.)
deans connectors
blitz wheel hexes
TBR front/rear bumper and wheely bar

I also have some before pictures. I was thinking about putting a castle creations motor in it but it is already pretty fast plus I am saving up for a new rig (1/8th buggy). I will post some after pics because it will be much cleaner, plus its far due for a tear-down.