fw190

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Physically in hand the 11X and XG14 was definitely JR feel but the 28X it felt like I was holding a Futaba box.

stoneenforcer

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very nice features. with 28 channels it should fold my laundry and wash the car too. my 11x fits in my hands like a magic cloud. this one looks a bit square and boxy. hope the local shop gets these in soon so I can hold it. if my 11x ever goes out this could be my next radio. Just not looking forward to changing all my rx's to dmssssss or whatever they wanna call it.

Beavis

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What about DMSS receivers with built-in 3-axis stabilization, or add-on modules to that effect? Does anyone know if that's also coming from JR?

myersflyers

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Danny,
Definitely a sweet radio. I have never gotten involved in any radio debates, buts it's been interesting to watch
over the years all the radio bantering. I think, you researched, you compare, you talk to others and you choose
what works best for YOU. If JR sells that radio for anything under 2k I'd buy it in a heart beat. I've only owned
a JR radio once and sold it the same year I bought it.

Just seems to me JR is chasing Futaba and if they offer this radio for less than 2k, game on.
I'm sure Futaba is already poised to bring to market a radio that will supersede the 18MZ and
now that JR has shown their hand, it will probably compete with the 28X. Maybe even priced below or at 3k.

Keith

rmh

Why not do this
put each transmitting type on a dart board and select the best .
as accurate an method as some opinions seen here .

spete2000

Hi Guys,

28 Channels? I love it. Price? It just has to be less than $2999.99. That might just make a completely new market for high end X-mitters.

Android Powered? Android screen interface? I don't know about anyone else, but if it is, it might have something to do with the government's "I Spy game". I totally like the radio, but I guess I will have to get over my thoughts on 1984. At least before, the governments looking at everything was done more secretly. Enough of that. People will imagine what they want.

I sincerely hope my thoughts on everything on this new radio will be satisfactory to all.

Damn, Dammit. DDDDamn. And, double damn. I just bought Futaba's new 14 channel radio. I think Futaba has a chance to build something extremely advanced. And, with their background, and base, They could force their engineering department to do just that. Maybe just to stay ahead of things. Advanced enough to be ahead of everyone for quite some time. I do like Futaba, especially since I put $10,000.00 into the ground with a Dx-7. I didn't even get a chance to fly most of them. It didn't become evident until the last brand new planes were crashed by two of my instructors during their maiden flights. This time, I actually saw the faults as they went in just as the instructors started yelling "I don't have it" Took that long to figure out that that was the cause of many of the previous planes. Spectrum Dx-7. I guess I still like Spectrum but you know: "once bitten'.

To keep everything on an even keel, they did repair the radio that "had nothing wrong with it". But I've tried it since, and they are right. There is nothing wrong. I had also sent them the receiver that was in the crash. They did replace that with the latest Dx-7 channel receiver that they have.

But, Kind of ironic that I buy a brand new 14sg from Futaba. I hope that JR's radio is so expensive I can't afford it. Not really. I hope that is on the same proportion as the 14SG's pricing is to Spectrum's 18 channel radio. That isn't close to Futaba's 18 channel radio price of 3 Grand. I wanted that one pretty bad too. Good thing I didn't have the money at the time.

After rereading this, I better say that I hadn't meant to start a contest, but I do like them both, and occasionally you can get a lemon. Maybe Futaba will come out with a 32 channel Transmitter that has integrated video for any camera with internal programming for it. No extra boxes. And a surprisingly low price. Like their 14 channel.

I know. Perhaps JR could replace Spectrum's Dx-7 for JR's new 28 channel radio. I can dream.

Maybe someone has a or some gasoline powered planes for sale. Will pay what it is worth. No junk, please. South East Michigan area. Not Detroit.

Thanks everyone. Steve

Tom Antlfinger

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Been a JR fanboy long time.....X-347, 388, and 8103.....as well as 10X, 12X.......but did migrate over to 18MZ, at least for a while beginning of 2013 season until JR got their act together......not sure this is the one.

SPECULATION: The 28X looks like Marketing department had allot to do with this one......Not much info out on the RCG or RCU, but looks like this is an XG-14($649.00) re-packaged with a new case that looks and feels like a 12X, no more Transformer case, and the B/W Scoll & button screen has been been replaced by a TFT 4.3" touch screen.......great move..... after using my 18MZ with bright 6.0" touch screen, I would never go back. It works flawlessly with screen protector using either finger tip or included stylus.

As far as 28 channels, much like the XG-14, you probably have 14 conventional PWM channels and the remainder are X-Bus channels....the XG-14 allows 4 X-Bus per channel, so it is actually 56 channels, but that might look goofy on the 28X faceplate, so they limited it to 28 channels. Good chance you could also have 56 on the 28X.....nothing more than a marketing tool.

The upgrades probably add $1000.00-1200.00 to the XG-14 retail price, so probably will come in at under 2K........maybe even like $1699.00.....for those with shallower pockets, the XG-14 is still a very good deal, IMO.

TA

Doug Cronkhite

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I was told it has 28 full bandwidth, full update/refresh channels.

Tom Antlfinger

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So does the X-14.......no splitting of channels into 4 (512) channels like Spektrum does to get 18 channels out of a 12 channel radio.....On both FUT and JR Serial Bus, all the channels are full service so they all can be adjusted individually and no problems with not being able to mix 2048 channels with 512 channels as on the Spek DX-18....

Should be similar to FUT S-Bus......adjustable speed, throw, end point, centers, etc for all channels, both PWM and S-BUS......not just On/Off channels...

TA

Tom Antlfinger

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Not to mention my less than smooth introduction to Serial Bus......little dark places in the hardware, software, and gets pricey with all the new converters if you stick with non-S-Bus servos from any of the manufacturers.......many more failure points, and possible loss of the entire data stream if a servo shorts out from a jam or internal failure....

I have been setting up one of Richard Deutsch's Royal SRS Power Bus Systems which does have a data stream protective circuit that cuts a bad servo out in a few milliseconds if it recognizes a shorted or stall servo so the data stream is preserved. Currently I don't think they are DMSS compatible.

Correction: DMSS are compatible with PB SRS.....see notes below

gsmarino2000

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All the comments about ugly "transformer" cases ... I originally didn't like the 11X / XG11 either until I held one. It fits my hands better than any other radio I've owned or played with. that sold me on it. Ugly is only skin deep ...

Rob2160

I can relate to this, when I first saw the 11X in a store I thought the design was laughable and that I would never buy one.

The appearance slowly grew on me and a year later I bought two of them. Great radio.

I like the 28X for the Metal chassis and CNC gimbals, but otherwise it looks very plain to me, like a Futaba 14SG, functional? yes, style winner? no. Just my opinion.

ticketec

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Yeah I wasn't really a big fan of the 11X when it came out, it grew on me after my flying buddy bought one, but love my XG-14.

cymaz

I bet it still doesn't stop anybody crashing

BlueBus320

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You would figure with the way electronics/cellphones are going (biggest screen to case size), they would have tried to out do Futaba. The screen looks relatively small though which makes the TX look cheap.

Esprit

Hi Tom, long time. I just copied this from the PowerBox forum on the PowerBox website:

The Royal Spektrum is only compatible with DSM2 or DSMX (old JR or Spektrum)
All SRS products of our range are compatible also with JR DMSS

Hope that helps.

Jonathan

1ricardo

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I donīt see what is all this fuzz about?
After 10 years JR managed to make a copy of the Futaba 14MZ ( in the best case scenario! )

Tom Antlfinger

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Hi Jonathan:

Been years for sure. Thanks for the heads up. When I posted last night, I just referenced my manual for the Royal SRS which does not list the DMSS as an option, but the manual is dated May, 2013. After looking at the PB forum as you did, I scrolled thru the setup menu on my SRS this morning and I see DMSS has been added as a choice for operating system. Good to know as Richard's boxes take Serial Bus ops to a new level.

Hope the New Year finds you and Jo well.

Tom

Rob2160

Aesthetically this is true but have you seen the gimbal construction in this post? That ain't no Futaba.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-r...l#post11709525

I noticed the pots secured nicely with two screws, not just one as in my Futaba 14SG which came loose the first time I used it.

rmh

Interesting --------
that would be 28, 2048 , channels?

Tom Antlfinger

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On the XG-14 and 18MZ, all S-Bus channels are 2048 with full proportional function on all channels.......with FUT and JR Serial Bus, you have the choice of using the PWM outputs on the RX or the Single S-Bus output...FUT has up to 16 PWM output channels and XG-14 has 14 PWM output channels......you can mix it up, using some PWM outputs and some S-Bus which is what I have done on my FUT S-Bus setup on my UB. Amazing versatility and you can cut down the number of leads from the RX to the servos. You must, of course, use a RX that has Serial Bus capability and converter boxes downstream.

I would be very surprised if the JR 28X is a 28 channel PWM system which would require a new RX with 28 discreet servo outputs if you want to use all 28 channels......and 28 leads from the RX to the servos, rather than a single 3-wire lead using S-Bus and a couple of converters down stream. I have my ail/flap converters on my UB buried in the wing, and one more way back in the tail for elev/rudder and one 20 ga, 3-wire line running down the spine of the fuse.

Some of the engineering gurus on RCU might address the issue of why 28 PWM channels might not be possible with current encoder technology.......

Bottom line is, whenever a marketing ad list large number of channels, i.e. more than 14-16, you have to question the fine print, as S-Bus with Telemetry and TFT touch screens is where all radios are going in 2014-2015, IMO. More clarification on the XG-14 info page----->

Spek does offer 18 PWM channels, but with only the first 10 channels being full function and resolution PWM. The top 8 channels using the X-Plus Box are full function but are 512 and not to be mixed with the lower 10 channels.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...eiver-JRP00631

TA

rmh

The "add ons" required to make it all work - are off putting to most fliers and trouble shooting them can be a nightmare.
But perhaps the encoding /decoding game has changed - at JR.
Ideally there would be 28 sets of pins which would work with conventional servos .
Sounds inviting - unless you look at associated issues - power out to all those servos for one .
The whole thing sounds like a money pit to me .
Having watched the issues (up close n personal)that can transpire with other "high end" setups - I hope JR takes a completely different approach.

FalconWings

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WOW! I can fly all 5 models at the same time, text my kids, troll facebook, AND watch porn at the same time!

ravill

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I'll NEVER have to leave the field!

Kevin_W

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Careful you don't wear out your joystick.