F16 EXPERTS-- Info Please
08-18-2017, 03:21 AM
#29
John,
Do you have a reference for that info? Working at LM Fort Worth with folks that worked early and late model F-16 Flight Test, I asked and cannot find anyone that knows anything about a larger wing (apart from the XL). The big tail & big inlet mods are well known, but nothing on a 'big wing'. The 'beer can' or 'Donkies D*ck' RWR antenna was one visible wing mod, starting at Block 30D
From F-16.net
Now, if you were modeling a scale Block 40/42 jet, you could measure the landing gear length
Paul
The larger wing on the Viper was with the A/B model blocks 5, 10, 15, and 20's. It was 21.5 inches longer than all C/D block 25, 30/32's, CG/DG block 40/42's, CJ/DJ block 50/52's. That wing was 31.0 feet for a wing span.
From F-16.net
Externally, the F-16C is almost identical to the F-16A. The only significant external difference is the introduction on the F-16C of an enlarged triangular base or "island" on the rear fuselage leading up to the vertical fin, with a small blade antenna protruding upward from it.
Now, if you were modeling a scale Block 40/42 jet, you could measure the landing gear length
The undercarriage legs were made longer in order to provide more adequate clearance for the two underfuselage LANTIRN pods, and were beefed up to handle the increased weight. The aircraft also has bulged landing gear doors to accommodate the larger wheels and tires, and the landing lights were moved to the nose gear doors.
08-18-2017, 06:37 AM
#30
On further internet research, I think the difference in reported span of the F-16 is due to measuring the span with or without the wingtip missiles.
Whilst none of the list below is a formal declaration of information (from the web, so must be true), and there are slight variations in the numbers, I think the consensus is there;
Wingspan for all F-16 variants from initial A model onwards (excluding XL) was;
Without tip missiles: 31'0"
With tip missiles: 32'8" - 32'9.5" (missile type not specified)
The basic wing size appears to be constant across all variants.
F-16.net
F-16A/B Dimensions: wingspan 32 feet 9 1/2 inches, length 49 feet 3 1/2 inches, height 16 feet 8 1/2 inches, wing area 300 square feet.
F-16C/D Block 25 Dimensions: wingspan 31 feet 0 inches, length 49 feet 4 inches, height 16 feet 8 1/2 inches, wing area 300 square feet.
F-16C/D Block 30/32 Dimensions: wingspan 31 feet 0 inches, length 49 feet 4 inches, height 16 feet 8 1/2 inches, wing area 300 square feet.
F-16C/D Block 40/42 Dimensions: wingspan 31 feet 0 inches, length 49 feet 4 inches, height 16 feet 8 1/2 inches, wing area 300 square feet.
F-16C/D Block 50/52 Dimensions: wingspan 31 feet 0 inches, length 49 feet 4 inches, height 16 feet 8 1/2 inches, wing area 300 square feet.
Af.mil
Wingspan: 32 feet, 8 inches (9.8 meters)
Length: 49 feet, 5 inches (14.8 meters)
Height: 16 feet (4.8 meters)
sky-flash.com
F-16 A: Wing span: 10,01 m.(over missiles)
http://www.iaf.org.il/645-en/IAF.aspx
Wingspan - 9.45 meters, With missiles - 10 meters.
Length - 14.93 meters.
Height - 5.10 meters
Paul
Whilst none of the list below is a formal declaration of information (from the web, so must be true
), and there are slight variations in the numbers, I think the consensus is there;Wingspan for all F-16 variants from initial A model onwards (excluding XL) was;
Without tip missiles: 31'0"
With tip missiles: 32'8" - 32'9.5" (missile type not specified)
The basic wing size appears to be constant across all variants.
F-16.net
F-16A/B Dimensions: wingspan 32 feet 9 1/2 inches, length 49 feet 3 1/2 inches, height 16 feet 8 1/2 inches, wing area 300 square feet.
F-16C/D Block 25 Dimensions: wingspan 31 feet 0 inches, length 49 feet 4 inches, height 16 feet 8 1/2 inches, wing area 300 square feet.
F-16C/D Block 30/32 Dimensions: wingspan 31 feet 0 inches, length 49 feet 4 inches, height 16 feet 8 1/2 inches, wing area 300 square feet.
F-16C/D Block 40/42 Dimensions: wingspan 31 feet 0 inches, length 49 feet 4 inches, height 16 feet 8 1/2 inches, wing area 300 square feet.
F-16C/D Block 50/52 Dimensions: wingspan 31 feet 0 inches, length 49 feet 4 inches, height 16 feet 8 1/2 inches, wing area 300 square feet.
Af.mil
Wingspan: 32 feet, 8 inches (9.8 meters)
Length: 49 feet, 5 inches (14.8 meters)
Height: 16 feet (4.8 meters)
sky-flash.com
F-16 A: Wing span: 10,01 m.(over missiles)
http://www.iaf.org.il/645-en/IAF.aspx
Wingspan - 9.45 meters, With missiles - 10 meters.
Length - 14.93 meters.
Height - 5.10 meters
Paul
08-19-2017, 11:34 AM
#32
David my main concern was having a $20K model that's only sport Scale, I can add Fuse plates, lighting patterns, antennas, and an accurate paint job down the track. However if the airframe shape was wrong to start with, I'd have no motivation to add the detail.
Good point about contacting SM regarding the F16 reference they used.
David what do you make your scale parts out of? I know 3D printing seems popular but can get heavy. Could you share some detail pics of your F16?
Thanks
Levi
Good point about contacting SM regarding the F16 reference they used.
David what do you make your scale parts out of? I know 3D printing seems popular but can get heavy. Could you share some detail pics of your F16?
Thanks
Levi
Which bird exactly do you want to make?
Also, I think the different wing profiles may be due to a manufacturer error. I know that SM and FEJ wings on their small F-16s are sport scale to give them better performance, perhaps they carried the error to some of the large scale molds?
In any case, use Peter's as a reference 😁
id bet he's is more accurate than Lockheed's.
08-21-2017, 07:43 AM
#36
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John,
Do you have a reference for that info? Working at LM Fort Worth with folks that worked early and late model F-16 Flight Test, I asked and cannot find anyone that knows anything about a larger wing (apart from the XL). The big tail & big inlet mods are well known, but nothing on a 'big wing'. The 'beer can' or 'Donkies D*ck' RWR antenna was one visible wing mod, starting at Block 30D
From F-16.net
Now, if you were modeling a scale Block 40/42 jet, you could measure the landing gear length
Paul
Do you have a reference for that info? Working at LM Fort Worth with folks that worked early and late model F-16 Flight Test, I asked and cannot find anyone that knows anything about a larger wing (apart from the XL). The big tail & big inlet mods are well known, but nothing on a 'big wing'. The 'beer can' or 'Donkies D*ck' RWR antenna was one visible wing mod, starting at Block 30D
From F-16.net
Now, if you were modeling a scale Block 40/42 jet, you could measure the landing gear length
Paul
08-21-2017, 05:16 PM
#39
Thread Starter
Thanks for that Peter. Your info matches in with the diagram in the previous post that measured the opposite angle at 39.9deg, forming the total angle at 90deg.
Some good posts and info in this thread. Thanks to all my question has been answered.
Some good posts and info in this thread. Thanks to all my question has been answered.
