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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet


    ORIGINAL: alasdair

    Does anyone else have light-up problems??

    I find that my gas-start Wren in my Falcon is often a bit reluctant to start, but an identical engine in my Gripen lights on gas straight away.* The only difference is the engine orientation.

    Does anyone else with a gas-start engine in a Falcon have problems with light-up? and if so is the engine mounted with the plug accessible near the top?

    Has anyone had to mount their turbine with the plug below the mount to get a reliable start?
    My Gas start Wren has not really had any problems at all lighting off the gas while mounted to the airframe, other than the last 2-3 starts but I think I may have a blocked gas manifold problem..... but then again this won't be a problem for the Falcon 120 anymore because I just removed the wren 54 to install a K-80F!

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet


    ORIGINAL: alasdair

    Does anyone else have light-up problems??

    I find that my gas-start Wren in my Falcon is often a bit reluctant to start, but an identical engine in my Gripen lights on gas straight away.* The only difference is the engine orientation.

    Does anyone else with a gas-start engine in a Falcon have problems with light-up? and if so is the engine mounted with the plug accessible near the top?

    Has anyone had to mount their turbine with the plug below the mount to get a reliable start?
    Wrens are always fussy on gas the setting of the restrictor on the gas line makes a big difference to reliable starting
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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    I have taken out the restrictor, along with the gas solenoid valve, in both these models.
    I plug in the gas cannister through a non-return valve and turn on the gas manually after the engine's first spin-up.

    The Wren in the Gripen always starts on the first whiff of gas, but the one in the Falcon is temperamental on light-up. Same can of gas, same day, etc.
    I don't know whether to invert the engine, or change the plug or what.

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    to any members, your information, mods, and experience is greatly apreciated, but i want to build it like it was designed to with a glow engine, gone thru like 150 pages, but everyone talks turbines, gee guys have a heart for us poor folks is anyone in the world building it with glow, need to know what engine size, prop size and diameter, 2 blade , 3blade, should i use any up, down, right or left, thrust on engine, when i mount it, how do you run wires from boom inside fuz. do you cut holes in wing werebooms are mounted, got mine few days ago, got the usaf version, no damage anywhere ready to rock and roll appreciate a reply you gus are awsome

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet


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    to any members, your information, mods, and experience is greatly apreciated, but i want to build it like it was designed to with a glow engine, gone thru like 150 pages, but everyone talks turbines, gee guys have a heart for us poor folks is anyone in the world building it with glow, need to know what engine size, prop size and diameter, 2 blade , 3blade, should i use any up, down, right or left, thrust on engine, when i mount it, how do you run wires from boom inside fuz. do you cut holes in wing werebooms are mounted, got mine few days ago, got the usaf version, no damage anywhere ready to rock and roll appreciate a reply you gus are awsome
    Who's gus? I'll apply if needed. LOL

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet


    ORIGINAL: jetdeck

    to any members, your information, mods, and experience is greatly apreciated, but i want to build it like it was designed to with a glow engine, gone thru like 150 pages, but everyone talks turbines, gee guys have a heart for us poor folks is anyone in the world building it with glow, need to know what engine size, prop size and diameter, 2 blade , 3blade, should i use any up, down, right or left, thrust on engine, when i mount it, how do you run wires from boom inside fuz. do you cut holes in wing werebooms are mounted, got mine few days ago, got the usaf version, no damage anywhere ready to rock and roll appreciate a reply you gus are awsome
    Good to see someone building the Falcon 120 as it is designed to be. I have one sat in a box and would like to get on and build it so I for one would welcome comment.

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    Perhaps Guss (Ivan) Grissom????

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    hey ian, jetdeck, you building prop version, man would like your take on this , everyone turbine crazy, id be to if i could afford it just want it simple, may not even use flaps or retracts cant see putting 2000.00$ engine and all bells and whistles in a 200.00 plane, have you come upon anyone building the prop version, need answers, im here in sunny florida, on west coast, everyone in forum seem to be really nice people and modelers, hope to get some answers, thanks for the responce mucho aprecio

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    hey baldeagle jetdeck fingers arent working to good didnt mean gus meant guys lol anyway, any ideas on prop version, been turbined to death lol im new on here, yeah a newbie

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    how do you run wires from servos in booms inside fuse, do you cut a hole in each wing, then to fuse, like to see a pic on how to do it

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet


    ORIGINAL: jetdeck

    how do you run wires from servos in booms inside fuse, do you cut a hole in each wing, then to fuse, like to see a pic on how to do it
    Yes normally there are holes already in the wing behind the front bolt hole
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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    I would refit the restrictor valve always had problems without one
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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet


    ORIGINAL: jetdeck

    hey ian, jetdeck, you building prop version, man would like your take on this , everyone turbine crazy, id be to if i could afford it just want it simple, may not even use flaps or retracts cant see putting 2000.00$ engine and all bells and whistles in a 200.00 plane, have you come upon anyone building the prop version, need answers, im here in sunny florida, on west coast, everyone in forum seem to be really nice people and modelers, hope to get some answers, thanks for the responce mucho aprecio
    umm.... your in the "jet" forum, not sure why you excpected people not to be turbine focued??

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet


    ORIGINAL: jetdeck

    hey ian, jetdeck, you building prop version, man would like your take on this , everyone turbine crazy, id be to if i could afford it just want it simple, may not even use flaps or retracts cant see putting 2000.00$ engine and all bells and whistles in a 200.00 plane, have you come upon anyone building the prop version, need answers, im here in sunny florida, on west coast, everyone in forum seem to be really nice people and modelers, hope to get some answers, thanks for the responce mucho aprecio
    I will more likely go the EDF route but will keep you posted.

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    xairflyer, jetdeck, thanks for reply on boom wiring, if i install glow, should i use any up ,down, or right thrust, or set it straight, are those mounts for prop that come with kit adequate, or should i use a hardwood, thanks my friend

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    Jetdeck, there is another thread somewhere that is dedicated to building the prop version of this plane, you may have better luck there.

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    thanks jetster, but cant find other thread

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    I think the thread is under "extreme speed" for some reason I don't understand LOL.

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    NavyCat on its way, be interesting to see the differences, no details of one on here yet.
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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    Xair, did you buy it with tank and retracts with the tank and retracts? I Hear it is good value for money, let us know your findings please.

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    Just to let you know that I'll soon have some Tornado V3 upgrade kits available which will fit the Falcon 120's. If any one is interested please PM me for further details. They are white gel coat so can be painted to suit any colour scheme.

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    Yes went for the retracts too good price, see what they are like when it arrives, understood it comes with a 2.1L tank as standard
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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    I have those retracts in another plane and they are outstanding value for money, what turbine do you have in mind?

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

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    RE: Bob Cat Copy Falcon 120 Jet

    Just the job. I am looking to get either the Jetsmunt or Kingtech 80 or possibly hang on for the new Jetcat 80RX which is rumoured to be announced at Jetpower.


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