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09-30-2013, 11:27 AM
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That's the way it is set up, that's how I know its me! Set to recc throws, conservative CG, etc.
The travel is much less than the previous owner had set up, he liked to really throw it around, aerobatics, low inverted passes, etc.
EL throw is low enough it has just enough up elevator to do a 3 pt landing with full flaps.
Flies nice and level and stable if I keep my fingers off the sticks.
I use the expo to help soften my over-corrections.
The travel is much less than the previous owner had set up, he liked to really throw it around, aerobatics, low inverted passes, etc.
EL throw is low enough it has just enough up elevator to do a 3 pt landing with full flaps.
Flies nice and level and stable if I keep my fingers off the sticks.
I use the expo to help soften my over-corrections.
09-30-2013, 11:57 AM
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Yes it looks off, but when I added the rudder this weekend it all fell into place. I was the one who cut it off the Yellow Spit, so I know it is from a mk14 Spit. The CJM Spit is a mk 23/24 and the fin/rudder has a totally different look. I will post pics of the complete tail shortly.
09-30-2013, 02:04 PM
#2953
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That's the way it is set up, that's how I know its me! Set to recc throws, conservative CG, etc.
The travel is much less than the previous owner had set up, he liked to really throw it around, aerobatics, low inverted passes, etc.
EL throw is low enough it has just enough up elevator to do a 3 pt landing with full flaps.
Flies nice and level and stable if I keep my fingers off the sticks.
I use the expo to help soften my over-corrections.
The travel is much less than the previous owner had set up, he liked to really throw it around, aerobatics, low inverted passes, etc.
EL throw is low enough it has just enough up elevator to do a 3 pt landing with full flaps.
Flies nice and level and stable if I keep my fingers off the sticks.
I use the expo to help soften my over-corrections.
I like it when I can hold full up elevator with full throttle and the plane NOT snap out at the top of the loop. The second test is at idle. I want it just strong enough NOT to snap but to simply stall when holding full up as the airframe slows down. Part of that is CG, part is elevator throw, and part is wing washout. That last you get to build in except for those pesky arf's when you have to do a lot of work to create that. The trick is to cause the root to stall before the tips so the ailerons remain effective until the wing will no longer carry the airframe.
Sorry about the soapbox.
10-01-2013, 05:36 AM
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It will snap at the top of a full-el full-throttle loop with the current throws, I haven't really tested the stall behavior yet.
I had a model experience a for-real unintended spin early this year, and though I did recover (very low and pointing right at myself) that was enough excitement for a whole year!
What i do know of this plane is that it is fairly mellow for a warbird, kyosho did put some good manners into it.
I had a model experience a for-real unintended spin early this year, and though I did recover (very low and pointing right at myself) that was enough excitement for a whole year!
What i do know of this plane is that it is fairly mellow for a warbird, kyosho did put some good manners into it.
10-01-2013, 05:41 AM
#2955
Models can do the same thing.
10-01-2013, 06:35 PM
#2957
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Hi Brothers;
If you would like to have a copy of the Spitfire Pilot Manual, here is a link where you can download a copy!!
Here is the link: http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/Spitfire2_Manual.html
Now back to the build cave, I mean Man Cave for me!!!
Sonny
aka
jet22b
If you would like to have a copy of the Spitfire Pilot Manual, here is a link where you can download a copy!!
Here is the link: http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/Spitfire2_Manual.html
Now back to the build cave, I mean Man Cave for me!!!
Sonny
aka
jet22b
10-03-2013, 06:15 AM
#2959
albsurfer: I would have to agree with you BUT ! it does make for an interesting read with things that one would not know about the real plane
and yes it would not have much to do with the model as far as a plane porpoising there may be incidence problems with the
relation to the wing and horizontal stabilizer
JIM
and yes it would not have much to do with the model as far as a plane porpoising there may be incidence problems with the
relation to the wing and horizontal stabilizer
JIM
10-03-2013, 07:32 AM
#2960
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Full size aircraft use "stall strips" to help control bad stall characteristics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stall_strips
Models can do the same thing.
Models can do the same thing.
BTW, I got my idea about changing the center of the leading edge from a T-38 maintenance engineer I used to run around with. He also convinced me not to build my own plane in my garage, so I build models.
10-06-2013, 08:18 PM
#2962
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ESM 72.5" Spitfire Build!!
Hi Brothers;
Here is more build updates!!
As you can see in the pictures, I went with the pull/pull system on the rudder and carbon push rods for the twin elevator servos. They are hook up and work so smooth!! Tomorrow I will take the tail apart to glue the stabs to the fuse and pin the CA hinges after they are glue to the elevator half and the stabs. Some one ask if I was going to use CA hinges on a 36cc gas plane?? The answer is yes!! On all my ARF that have CA hinges, I pin then using tooth picks!! I was doing this type of hinges pin back in the 70's when we had cloth hinges!!! I have yet to have a control surface to come off in the air or in a crash. I hope the retract tail wheel come in sometime this week, so I can start on that. I did cut out the landing gears well and laid glass around the wheel well and mounting rail for the gears. I plan on going with the landing gear insert that come with the model.
So stay tune for more updates to come!
Sonny
aka
jet22b
Here is more build updates!!
As you can see in the pictures, I went with the pull/pull system on the rudder and carbon push rods for the twin elevator servos. They are hook up and work so smooth!! Tomorrow I will take the tail apart to glue the stabs to the fuse and pin the CA hinges after they are glue to the elevator half and the stabs. Some one ask if I was going to use CA hinges on a 36cc gas plane?? The answer is yes!! On all my ARF that have CA hinges, I pin then using tooth picks!! I was doing this type of hinges pin back in the 70's when we had cloth hinges!!! I have yet to have a control surface to come off in the air or in a crash. I hope the retract tail wheel come in sometime this week, so I can start on that. I did cut out the landing gears well and laid glass around the wheel well and mounting rail for the gears. I plan on going with the landing gear insert that come with the model.
So stay tune for more updates to come!
Sonny
aka
jet22b
10-06-2013, 09:02 PM
#2964
RKoz : it would be a great match it has close to the same bore as the rcgf 15 but a different stroke if I where you I would do a little checking in to the performance of the dle 20 I have seen some wild things with that engine
Jim
Jim
10-07-2013, 03:00 PM
#2967
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RKoz;
Here are a few pictures of the DLE 20cc motor on the TF Spitfire kit airframe. That is the stock motor mount that come with the kit and you can see its a tight fit. But I think it will work!!
I hope the pictures helps!!
Sonny
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jet22b
Here are a few pictures of the DLE 20cc motor on the TF Spitfire kit airframe. That is the stock motor mount that come with the kit and you can see its a tight fit. But I think it will work!!
I hope the pictures helps!!
Sonny
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jet22b
10-08-2013, 12:23 PM
#2968
Thanks Jet22,
That's what I was looking for. Think I'll try the new DLE 20 with the rear exhaust. Looks like there's plenty of room behind the engine for cooling.
Had a saito 125 in it. Best flying warbird I've had.
That's what I was looking for. Think I'll try the new DLE 20 with the rear exhaust. Looks like there's plenty of room behind the engine for cooling.
Had a saito 125 in it. Best flying warbird I've had.
10-08-2013, 03:29 PM
#2971
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Andreas;
When I first built the TF Spitfire kit, the DLE 20cc motor was going in the nose, but the engine is a side exhaust and with the muffler in place, I will have to remove a large part of the cowling to make the cowling fit!!! The plane (to me), just don't look right with half the cowling gone, so I went with a OS 91 four stroke and it fit inside the cowling. The only thing coming out of the cowling is the muffler and the top cover of the head.
On the ESM Spitfire, the retract tail wheel came in today and it will fit in the opening with no major mod. One thing I know I will have to do is to put a hole in the bulkhead for the retract arm to move through when the tail wheel retract.
Stay tune for updates and pictures!!
Sonny
aka
jet22b
When I first built the TF Spitfire kit, the DLE 20cc motor was going in the nose, but the engine is a side exhaust and with the muffler in place, I will have to remove a large part of the cowling to make the cowling fit!!! The plane (to me), just don't look right with half the cowling gone, so I went with a OS 91 four stroke and it fit inside the cowling. The only thing coming out of the cowling is the muffler and the top cover of the head.
On the ESM Spitfire, the retract tail wheel came in today and it will fit in the opening with no major mod. One thing I know I will have to do is to put a hole in the bulkhead for the retract arm to move through when the tail wheel retract.
Stay tune for updates and pictures!!
Sonny
aka
jet22b
