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Old 06-10-2016, 08:18 AM
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You want scale, build a real kit... you want simplicity and functionality... go with topflite.. topflites whole thing is for those that want simplicity and not complicated models. If you have the time to modify these ARFS, why not build a kit if you want accuracy. These models weren't ment to be scale as this cost and its all about the numbers. There are so many imperfections in this ARF that you'll spend more time fixing them then building a correct kit..

I enjoyed building the one I did but kept it simple knowing this. Why spend the money fixing someone else's design that you paid fo knowing.. it's one thing to modify little things but it's a whole can of worms to change a design.

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Old 06-10-2016, 10:16 AM
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Ramstein 44 would know what constitutes too many mods to an ARF, since he's been there a few times. I own the one he documented early in this thread, and even though the wing has not been modified (dihedral) the SIerra gear still seems to stand up fine.

I did get some new "Hardened" trunions for my other TF FW190, but haven't been able to test them out this year due to some engine issues. Robart claimed they would break before they bend. Since I have the dual trunion mod, I doubt very much they would break. I'll let you all know how they work out when I get it into the air and hit some landings.

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Old 06-10-2016, 11:08 AM
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Interesting find, wonder if they were measuring the top of the wing which would be very close to the diagrams I have (approx. 4.8 deg). I say that because Top Flite's first answer to me was 10 deg, which made no sense, so I pushed back and they responded with the answer I posted stating they measured the bottom of the wing and combined the values. Definitely complicates it with three ways to measure dihedral in use!

The drawings from "Aircraft Archive: Classics of World War II" looks to be sourced from A.L. Bentley (http://www.albentley-drawings.com/dr...w190-a5-a9-fg/). Exact match to the Wing Geometry image on the page (low res version of it: http://www.albentley-drawings.com/wp....Wing-Geom.jpg). Notations on the drawings state that all dimensions show were obtained from official Focke Wulf drawings, reports, specifications and data sheets.

I'd share a more detailed scan of it, but I'm sure he put a lot of work into it just to have it shared for free.

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FW-190 evaluation from official documentation during WWII; the FW-190 wing dihedral is listed at 5 degrees.
Old 06-11-2016, 04:06 AM
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I have a question for the people with the Saito FG84, but everyone is welcome to chime in. When mounting the engine you cut a hole into the firewall and the carb (or at least part of it) will stick into the fuse. Do you build some kind of enclosure around it to prevent fuel "spitting" into the fuse or just leave it open?
Old 06-11-2016, 05:05 AM
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While not impossible for fuel to spit out of the carb, what you describe is more of a problem with piston-ported engines...the type where the carb is mounted on the side of the cylinder. A coat of polyurethane inside the compartment will take care of your concerns.
Old 06-11-2016, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by khoysagk
I have a question for the people with the Saito FG84, but everyone is welcome to chime in. When mounting the engine you cut a hole into the firewall and the carb (or at least part of it) will stick into the fuse. Do you build some kind of enclosure around it to prevent fuel "spitting" into the fuse or just leave it open?
I built one for a friend and only put in the hole, no surround for it. Not a problem. It had the FG84.
Old 06-11-2016, 01:18 PM
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Ok then. Thanks guys.
Old 06-11-2016, 03:22 PM
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First flight today for me. Beautiful flying plane for sure! Dle 55RA, electric Robarts worked flawless.
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Old 06-15-2016, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lear31A
First flight today for me. Beautiful flying plane for sure! Dle 55RA, electric Robarts worked flawless.
Good for you. Honestly I am a little worried about the retracts after reading all the bad stuff here, but nice to hear yours held up well. I'm already nervous about my maiden which won't happen for another few weeks, lol.
Your plane needs a pilot btw.
Old 06-16-2016, 01:04 AM
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does any body have a picture of the new retracts from Century Jet ?

thanks
Old 06-17-2016, 04:47 PM
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Bruce took my payment on 2/16/2016 for his Century Jet gear and I still don't have them. Pretty disappointing. I had heard good things about CJ's customer service. I am not impressed at all. If I don't receive the gear soon I will try getting in touch with Bruce and ask for a refund.

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Old 06-20-2016, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by chunky42monkey
does any body have a picture of the new retracts from Century Jet ?

thanks
I contacted Century Jet for a picture on the 9th. They got back to me right away claiming they would send, but it never arrived. I've followed up, but no response. Starting to question if they are really just selling vaporware.
Old 06-20-2016, 03:16 PM
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I had to go to the Attorney General in Kentucky to get action on my CJ gear that I returned and no refund. I finally got action once he was contacted by the AG office. It shouldn't have to be that hard, this isn't tough stuff. But, get used to the wait.
Old 06-23-2016, 01:13 AM
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Was going to order century jet gear was trying to get picture to glad I waited
Old 06-23-2016, 01:59 AM
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Looking on the CJ website there are 10 in stock I have ordered on from the UK but I am a little concerned that nobody has received any and there are no pictures. I only ordered them because they drop straight in and the Robart ones are rubbish ( I had two flights with them and they are bent already with no bad landings) so I have my figures totally crossed that I haven't made a really bad decision
Old 06-23-2016, 04:16 AM
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These problems are all over the internet. This is what prompted me starting this thread:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-j...-retracts.html
Old 06-25-2016, 04:08 PM
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Can anyone tell me if this bird has a little up thrust built into the firewall? I taxied it around today and it sure looked like the engine was pointing up just a hair. Could be an illusion too, but I did cut the firewall back to mount the FG84 and I measured many times before cutting to not mess it up.
Old 06-25-2016, 04:46 PM
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Saito fg57t no cutting required. Here's how the engine alignment looks.

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Old 06-25-2016, 04:54 PM
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Thanks Tommy. Now can I see that without the cowl and spinner
Old 06-26-2016, 06:32 AM
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Here are a couple pics. It sure looks fine with the cowl and spinner on. When I cut the firewall I measured and only found a difference in measurements left to right, top to bottom was equal and that's how I cut it.
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Old 07-01-2016, 02:43 AM
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OK according to the agent in the UK for Century Jet my new retracts are being shipped today so should take about a week until I get them and then I will post a picture
Old 07-01-2016, 02:50 AM
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Hopefully that means mine are also being shipped. I ordered the first set of gear for this plane from Bruce so I would assume I am going to get the first set.
Old 07-02-2016, 03:25 PM
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Well, did my maiden flight today. Was surprised at how good this 190 flies. This is my first GS. Before this my heaviest plane was a GP Waco at around 13lbs. Anyway got a couple of flights in and last landing didn't go well. It was a little rough and I nosed over (too much flaps I think). It happened fast and not sure how, but I saw one of my retracts flying off the plane. Looking at it I saw the trunion broke. No bent pins though and nothing else broke, even the prop is fine. Not sure what to make of it.
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Old 07-02-2016, 03:40 PM
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I think I'd send that one back to Robart along with the picture. The structure is undamaged but the metal retract broke..........
Old 07-02-2016, 05:01 PM
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Now that I think about it, it might have gone on the nose BECAUSE the trunion broke. Can't say for sure though.
I saw the retracts have a one year warranty, so yes, I will contact Robart. Of course this will take longer than just ordering a new part I'm sure.


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