Top RC Zero from Gator R/C
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Help with attaching clear part to canopy!
I am getting ready to attach the clear part to the canopy for my composite arf. Can I still use the pacer 560 white canopy glue, or is it better to use a different adhesive? Thanks in advance for your help.
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Hello - I have been in and out of the hobby for the past 25 years and always dreamed of having a giant scale gas warbird. Back in the day, I would look at the magazines of the Byron Originals, Yellow Aircraft, etc thinking how cool and awesome it would be to have and fly one of those some day. When top rc came out with their line of composite warbirds, I was totally intrigued and finally decided enough dreaming and took the plunge and got me one of these bad boyz... Still in awe how cool and massive this Zero is, and makes building it that much cooler. I also purchased the Top rc electric retracts.
This thread has been a life saver (thanks hot rod todd and others), and it is the manual for me, not a supplement to the online manual. the online manual is a supplement to the info here. I will need some assistance along the way, and no intention to hijack this thread and would be happy to start a new one if needed.
My questions now relate more to the radio system (and later the engine/ignition) for the top rc zero. I plan on the EME 70 twin when I get to that part (also since there is great guidance in this thread on that install). I have a spektrum DX9 radio that I have had for a few years now, and feel comfortable (for the most part) with the programming features of the radio. I understand it is preferable to try to have a channel in the Rx for each servo, is that correct? After a bit of research, I am still trying to figure out the "best" configuration for the servos and which spektrum receiver to purchase for the Zero considering I have a 9 channel radio. I understand that there are multiple configuration options, but I am looking at something that makes sense and practical for my situation/radio.
so the number of servos:
ailerons -2
flaps - 2
elevator - 2
rudder - 1
throttle - 1
ignition/kill switch - 1 ?
rear tail gear - 1
I don't plan in installing the door gear door/clams as of now.
remote starter for engine that is offered on the EME 70 (recommended?) - 1
Others - did I miss anything?
If my math is right, that would be 11 servos assuming I don't install the smaller gear doors. My understanding is to avoid Y harnesses or reverse Y harnesses, and try to use the channels in the receiver. If needed to combine servos if I don't have enough channels, use a matchbox or something similar? For the DX9, what would be a recommended Rx and for how many channels - spektrum has a 12 channel receiver - could this be used and if so, are the separate ailerons (or flap or elevator) servos put into a separate channel in the receiver, would each control only count as "one" channel on my transmitter, eg, one channel for aileron, one for flaps, one for elevator even though I may be using 6 on the Rx? Or, lets say I use a 9 channel Rx, would it be ok to use the matchbox for the two flap servos, or elevators, or ailerons (or does it matter which). so I am now contemplating how many channels in the Rx I should be looking at and suggestions/recommendations/guidance there?
Side note on the build - the stabilizer has a few of the round hinges that are shorter on the side that go into the stab. I realized one was for the narrow end of the stabilizer on both sides and figured a few others were cut short for no reason, until I put the tube in stabilizer to join them and the tube would not go in all the way - funny - got it fixed but found out the hard way why there were more than two short hinges. either I missed that in the manual, or it wasn't there or not thinking ahead.
sorry for the lengthy post, and certainly appreciate any assistance. thanks in advance!
This thread has been a life saver (thanks hot rod todd and others), and it is the manual for me, not a supplement to the online manual. the online manual is a supplement to the info here. I will need some assistance along the way, and no intention to hijack this thread and would be happy to start a new one if needed.
My questions now relate more to the radio system (and later the engine/ignition) for the top rc zero. I plan on the EME 70 twin when I get to that part (also since there is great guidance in this thread on that install). I have a spektrum DX9 radio that I have had for a few years now, and feel comfortable (for the most part) with the programming features of the radio. I understand it is preferable to try to have a channel in the Rx for each servo, is that correct? After a bit of research, I am still trying to figure out the "best" configuration for the servos and which spektrum receiver to purchase for the Zero considering I have a 9 channel radio. I understand that there are multiple configuration options, but I am looking at something that makes sense and practical for my situation/radio.
so the number of servos:
ailerons -2
flaps - 2
elevator - 2
rudder - 1
throttle - 1
ignition/kill switch - 1 ?
rear tail gear - 1
I don't plan in installing the door gear door/clams as of now.
remote starter for engine that is offered on the EME 70 (recommended?) - 1
Others - did I miss anything?
If my math is right, that would be 11 servos assuming I don't install the smaller gear doors. My understanding is to avoid Y harnesses or reverse Y harnesses, and try to use the channels in the receiver. If needed to combine servos if I don't have enough channels, use a matchbox or something similar? For the DX9, what would be a recommended Rx and for how many channels - spektrum has a 12 channel receiver - could this be used and if so, are the separate ailerons (or flap or elevator) servos put into a separate channel in the receiver, would each control only count as "one" channel on my transmitter, eg, one channel for aileron, one for flaps, one for elevator even though I may be using 6 on the Rx? Or, lets say I use a 9 channel Rx, would it be ok to use the matchbox for the two flap servos, or elevators, or ailerons (or does it matter which). so I am now contemplating how many channels in the Rx I should be looking at and suggestions/recommendations/guidance there?
Side note on the build - the stabilizer has a few of the round hinges that are shorter on the side that go into the stab. I realized one was for the narrow end of the stabilizer on both sides and figured a few others were cut short for no reason, until I put the tube in stabilizer to join them and the tube would not go in all the way - funny - got it fixed but found out the hard way why there were more than two short hinges. either I missed that in the manual, or it wasn't there or not thinking ahead.
sorry for the lengthy post, and certainly appreciate any assistance. thanks in advance!
Last edited by rckymtn1; 09-14-2017 at 04:51 PM.
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If you have a 9 channel transmitter then thats how many outputs you have no matter how many channels you have in the RX so you can either use Y-harnesses or match boxes.
Use a Y on the ailerons and a Y or machbox on the flaps and you're there. I'd use a 9010 or if you want to run 2 receiver packs (i would) then a 9 channel power safe. Gear doors are usually run on the gear controller so really thats only one channel.
Use a Y on the ailerons and a Y or machbox on the flaps and you're there. I'd use a 9010 or if you want to run 2 receiver packs (i would) then a 9 channel power safe. Gear doors are usually run on the gear controller so really thats only one channel.
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If you have a 9 channel transmitter then thats how many outputs you have no matter how many channels you have in the RX so you can either use Y-harnesses or match boxes.
Use a Y on the ailerons and a Y or machbox on the flaps and you're there. I'd use a 9010 or if you want to run 2 receiver packs (i would) then a 9 channel power safe. Gear doors are usually run on the gear controller so really thats only one channel.
Use a Y on the ailerons and a Y or machbox on the flaps and you're there. I'd use a 9010 or if you want to run 2 receiver packs (i would) then a 9 channel power safe. Gear doors are usually run on the gear controller so really thats only one channel.
Also, would the 2200 mah life be sufficient for the retracts, and for the ignition assuming I don't use an IBEC for the ignition and the receiver battery. so 4 total batteries, 2s life, 6.6v 2200 mah each. Then one more for the EME engine if I opt for the remote starter - 5 total in that case.
thanks again, appreciate it
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I have a 60cc Hangar 9 that runs on a 12 channel power safe with a pair of 2500 mah A123 packs. They power the rx, Ignition through an IBEC, and retracts, no issues, 3 or 4 flights and I charge.
Personally with that model I would go with that configuration and a battery for the starter.
Personally with that model I would go with that configuration and a battery for the starter.
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For those who have flown the TopRC Zero I have a couple questions. 1. Is 20M (each way) enough throw on the rudder? I am getting this measurement from the middle of the rudder. Question 2. Where should I be getting the measurement? Any HELP appreciated.
Thanks,
Gary
Thanks,
Gary
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Here are a few pics of my Electric converted Zero.
Hacker A100-8
Castle Creations Ice 160HV
Flight Power 12s 10,000mah (4,000mah used in 5 min flight)
Futaba 18MZ with s.Bus Servos
Falcon 22x12 Carbon prop
Robart Electric Retracts
Warbird Pilots 1/5th scale pilot
Hacker A100-8
Castle Creations Ice 160HV
Flight Power 12s 10,000mah (4,000mah used in 5 min flight)
Futaba 18MZ with s.Bus Servos
Falcon 22x12 Carbon prop
Robart Electric Retracts
Warbird Pilots 1/5th scale pilot
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Any video of Zero in flight...curious of how she performs.
jim
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Hey guys,
Crazy weekend and just getting back to normal, well for a few days.
Sorry no videos that I know of or have seen from NEAT of the Zero.
Here are the only pics I have with me right now of where I cut the hatch for the rudder and what it looks like before I made the cut out for the Servo Arm. Hope this helps a little bit.
Crazy weekend and just getting back to normal, well for a few days.
Sorry no videos that I know of or have seen from NEAT of the Zero.
Here are the only pics I have with me right now of where I cut the hatch for the rudder and what it looks like before I made the cut out for the Servo Arm. Hope this helps a little bit.
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Hey guys,
Crazy weekend and just getting back to normal, well for a few days.
Sorry no videos that I know of or have seen from NEAT of the Zero.
Here are the only pics I have with me right now of where I cut the hatch for the rudder and what it looks like before I made the cut out for the Servo Arm. Hope this helps a little bit.
Crazy weekend and just getting back to normal, well for a few days.
Sorry no videos that I know of or have seen from NEAT of the Zero.
Here are the only pics I have with me right now of where I cut the hatch for the rudder and what it looks like before I made the cut out for the Servo Arm. Hope this helps a little bit.
Hey Dan,
I'm talking with the guys at Hacker. They are suggesting the A-100 like yours. ... how well did it fly?
Thanks,
jim
Last edited by jimkron; 09-29-2017 at 10:45 AM.
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Hi Jim,
My set up is as follows:
Hacker A100-8
Castle 160HV Ice
Flight Power 6s 10,000mah times 2 in order to make 12s
Falcon Carbon 22x12 Gas prop
I use just under 1,000 mah per min. I expect 8 min with a cushion being no problem at all. Flies great, and tons of power!!
Dan
My set up is as follows:
Hacker A100-8
Castle 160HV Ice
Flight Power 6s 10,000mah times 2 in order to make 12s
Falcon Carbon 22x12 Gas prop
I use just under 1,000 mah per min. I expect 8 min with a cushion being no problem at all. Flies great, and tons of power!!
Dan
#472
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Hi Jim,
My set up is as follows:
Hacker A100-8
Castle 160HV Ice
Flight Power 6s 10,000mah times 2 in order to make 12s
Falcon Carbon 22x12 Gas prop
I use just under 1,000 mah per min. I expect 8 min with a cushion being no problem at all. Flies great, and tons of power!!
Dan
My set up is as follows:
Hacker A100-8
Castle 160HV Ice
Flight Power 6s 10,000mah times 2 in order to make 12s
Falcon Carbon 22x12 Gas prop
I use just under 1,000 mah per min. I expect 8 min with a cushion being no problem at all. Flies great, and tons of power!!
Dan
thanks,
jim