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I am starting on my AT-6 Texan and would to use dual elevator servos. Do any of you have a photo of your dual elevator set up if so could you please post it.
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Rambuster....glad you joined us on the forum....can't help you with your question but you might want to think about installing the Robart at-6 texan landing gear you will not be sorry I switched am glad of it....just a suggestion to save you grief...they are tough strong and very scale looking for this bird.....
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Hey guys, I do believe the green Marines version is made by a company other than cmp, which means chineses copied off a chinese.
I was wondering if the Marine version is as good, flies as good etc. I noticed is less expension. It has caught my eye, that is why I'm asking.
I was wondering if the Marine version is as good, flies as good etc. I noticed is less expension. It has caught my eye, that is why I'm asking.
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Hi jetset,
I have the Marines version and it is indeed made by CMP. The differences I noticed are that the formers don't have lightening holes and the decals are not pre-applied. Other than that it's the same airframe.
As far as how it flies, I can't tell you that yet. I broke my first one trying to make a silk purse from a sow's ear. I'm almost done building my second one as-is from the box. Be careful to keep the tail light. It has a short fuselage and the CG is up near the front seat.
I'll post some video of my successful maiden flight.
I have the Marines version and it is indeed made by CMP. The differences I noticed are that the formers don't have lightening holes and the decals are not pre-applied. Other than that it's the same airframe.
As far as how it flies, I can't tell you that yet. I broke my first one trying to make a silk purse from a sow's ear. I'm almost done building my second one as-is from the box. Be careful to keep the tail light. It has a short fuselage and the CG is up near the front seat.
I'll post some video of my successful maiden flight.
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Ramduster,
I haven't checked this thread lately, but wanted to reply to your request for dual elevator control. I've assembled two CMP Texans. I've used the same set up for elevator. I use large scale tube-in-tube (can't remember the brand). I run the tube through one of the holes in the former that is just ahead of the horz stab. Use the length of the control horn to determing the location of the slot cut for the control rod. The slot needs to be far forward than the instruction pic.
The outer tube can be stabalized to a couple of formers with light ply. Drill a hole in a scrap piece,apply slow CA, and slide the ply down the tube until it contacts the former. Most arms will reach far enough to hold the ply scrap to the former until the CA sets.
TStick
I haven't checked this thread lately, but wanted to reply to your request for dual elevator control. I've assembled two CMP Texans. I've used the same set up for elevator. I use large scale tube-in-tube (can't remember the brand). I run the tube through one of the holes in the former that is just ahead of the horz stab. Use the length of the control horn to determing the location of the slot cut for the control rod. The slot needs to be far forward than the instruction pic.
The outer tube can be stabalized to a couple of formers with light ply. Drill a hole in a scrap piece,apply slow CA, and slide the ply down the tube until it contacts the former. Most arms will reach far enough to hold the ply scrap to the former until the CA sets.
TStick
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Anybody have problems with this plane really trying to pitch down during the approach. My flies perfect in the air, hands off all day, but when i throttle back, it really wants to pitch over. I think im just going to try and program in a switch to add a few degrees up elevator during the approach. What do you all think?
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trevtt600....sounds like your plane is too nose heavy...your CG may be off for the nose heavy condition......My plane is slightly nose heavy I like them that way but when landing my at-6 has a slight nose down attitude which is corrected durnig the flare...this attitude is a comfortable decent attitude I do not have to push the nose down.....In fact I was out flying mine today and every landing was a smooth wheel landing ...recheck your CG and balance...
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I had a successful maiden yesterday. I used your advice and powered up slowly and carefully. It still wanted to hook left when it broke ground though. Once it's in the air, it flies like it's on rails. Landing approach was slow and very controllable. The G26ei ran perfectly, the Sierra gear worked flawlessly and even took a pretty good bounce from my crappy landing without bending or breaking. I was a little nervous and we had 10-15 mph winds. I have video of the flight and will post it on YouTube when I'm done editing.
I brought it to Warbirds Over Delaware but did not fly it. I had a lot of people interested in it, and got to meet Kelly from NC who posted on this thread a little ways back. Thanks for encouraging me to build another one and I'm going to add some more scale detail as I fly it and get more comfortable with it.
I brought it to Warbirds Over Delaware but did not fly it. I had a lot of people interested in it, and got to meet Kelly from NC who posted on this thread a little ways back. Thanks for encouraging me to build another one and I'm going to add some more scale detail as I fly it and get more comfortable with it.
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RCPILOT78,
Ref your post 525 above, seems I have arrived at a good practical solution. I have sold the model. Among other things, we are organising to move house again, this time overseas, and so a temporary reduction of the fleet is required anyway.
The new owner already has a Harvard (AT-6) - the fullsize version - and wanted mine to hang in his new hangar. He was interested in the bare airframe only, so I get to keep the engine, radio gear, servos etc, and also those Eurokit retracts.
Apart from the geometry caused by those bent steel pins, I`m reasonably happy with the way they work, air up and spring down, and I quite like the simple plumbing and those Festo fittings.
Longer term I have a couple of O/D scratchbuild projects on the wish list - an 80" Hurricane and a Zlin 526 around 100" and by replacing the bent pins with straight ones and maybe replacing the complete oleos, they might be useful there....
In the meantime I still have that NIB Midwest AT-6 kit, complete with a new set of the relevant Robart retracts.
Happy days.......
Ref your post 525 above, seems I have arrived at a good practical solution. I have sold the model. Among other things, we are organising to move house again, this time overseas, and so a temporary reduction of the fleet is required anyway.
The new owner already has a Harvard (AT-6) - the fullsize version - and wanted mine to hang in his new hangar. He was interested in the bare airframe only, so I get to keep the engine, radio gear, servos etc, and also those Eurokit retracts.
Apart from the geometry caused by those bent steel pins, I`m reasonably happy with the way they work, air up and spring down, and I quite like the simple plumbing and those Festo fittings.
Longer term I have a couple of O/D scratchbuild projects on the wish list - an 80" Hurricane and a Zlin 526 around 100" and by replacing the bent pins with straight ones and maybe replacing the complete oleos, they might be useful there....
In the meantime I still have that NIB Midwest AT-6 kit, complete with a new set of the relevant Robart retracts.
Happy days.......
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AlphaWhisky...good luck with the move.....and yes the EuroKit retracts have a great design its just too bad that they are not strong enough to handle the large forward rake to simulate the at-6 gear....you will be much better off with the Robart gear so far I have never had the gear fail to function....they are very reliable..
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RE: CMP 160 sized Texan
Can anyone tell me how you measure to balance the Texan. I had one for a year and a half.
It spun in and was totaled. I had just changed engines, from G 26 to Fuji 24. The next TWO texans stalled and crashed on maiden flights, 45 seconds on one and 5 minutes on the next. I really liked the way the first one flew, but it's getting expensive to replace after only one flight.
HELP!
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It spun in and was totaled. I had just changed engines, from G 26 to Fuji 24. The next TWO texans stalled and crashed on maiden flights, 45 seconds on one and 5 minutes on the next. I really liked the way the first one flew, but it's getting expensive to replace after only one flight.
HELP!
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Hi All I Have the AT-6 Texan and it is nearing to completion, I purchased mine from Flair as it was the original supplier over here in the UK I will take a phew picture and post them up ASP. But in the meantime here are a couple of pictures of the Instrument Panel Front & Back I hope they are any use to any one wanting to make the cockpit as realistic without doing to much.
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I made the purchase of one today and should be here next week. What Gas power plant is a good make for the bird. For glow how would a OS 160 do on this bird.
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Hello Patzane,
I am in the process of building one now. I am using Sierra gear, and a XYZ 50cc gasser for power. I was going to go with the 26cc XYZ, but on talking to Ron at South East RC Engines
I went for the 50cc. I have the engine installed. The bottom of the cowl needed opened up for the top of the head and spark plug to clear. The top of the head is flush with the bottom of the cowl, so only the spark plug, exhaust and carb intake will show. I'll take some pics later today and post them this evening.
Ken
I am in the process of building one now. I am using Sierra gear, and a XYZ 50cc gasser for power. I was going to go with the 26cc XYZ, but on talking to Ron at South East RC Engines
I went for the 50cc. I have the engine installed. The bottom of the cowl needed opened up for the top of the head and spark plug to clear. The top of the head is flush with the bottom of the cowl, so only the spark plug, exhaust and carb intake will show. I'll take some pics later today and post them this evening.
Ken
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Should be a rocket with the XYZ 50. I have a heavy Poulan 42 cc (5.2 lbs) on mine with the batteries in the firewall to balance. You may need more nose weight. Landings on this plane are a breeze, but be sure to have plenty of speed on takeoff as it tends to need right rudder once airbourne to prevent stalls. Paul
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Here's my latest video with 26ei. As you can see it has plenty of power.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vczzAfnmOQ0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vczzAfnmOQ0
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nice flight mystar46 ive seen your other videos and it looks like your really getting use to it. i read somewhere else about it likes to bouce on landings ive notices yours does to is that just the nature of this plane? also that prop hub looks nice is it this one http://www.truturn.com/cgi-bin/store...exact_match=on nice to see this forum alive again im starting the texan also with g26i
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Thanks Speedpro, yes it is a handful on the ground. The landing in that video was one of my better ones,... I've only greased it in really nice once or twice when the cameras were not rolling. My first T6 was destroyed when I snap rolled on takeoff. It definitely takes some getting used to and doesn't really fly like anything else that I've ever flown.
The spinner is the Tru-Turn that was originally made for the 1/6 Midwest kit. I got the one with the big prop slots in it and I still had to open it up a little for the 18x8 prop. The Zenoah 26ei is by far the best engine I've ever owned and it never needed any adjustment at all. It hand starts usually within 2-3 flips... sometimes just 1. I think I over-choked it in the video.
Which color scheme did you get?
The spinner is the Tru-Turn that was originally made for the 1/6 Midwest kit. I got the one with the big prop slots in it and I still had to open it up a little for the 18x8 prop. The Zenoah 26ei is by far the best engine I've ever owned and it never needed any adjustment at all. It hand starts usually within 2-3 flips... sometimes just 1. I think I over-choked it in the video.
Which color scheme did you get?
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red/ yellow i love the green and silver but i think ill be able to see the red yellow better in the air. i have a all silver p-51 and it harder for me to see