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    Ok guys, here goes... I hope this hasnt been done .....

    1. Twin engined .
    2. Monoplane.
    3. Built due to political necessity.
    4. Several designs were studied based on current designs from other nations.

    Ok, that should start the ball rolling..
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    Quote Originally Posted by zippome View Post
    Sorry Ernie! I meant to post last night but I ended up helping a buddy move. His divorce reminds me of the old joke. Q." Why is divorce so expensive?" A. "Because its worth it!"

    Thanks, Zip. As to the reason divorce is so expensive: Same as everything else; supply and demand. Thanks; Ernie P.

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    1. Twin engined .
    2. Monoplane.
    3. Built due to political necessity.
    4. Several designs were studied based on current designs from other nations.
    5. Over 130 built.
    6. There are reasons that this aircraft looks "familiar".

    Ok, that should start the ball rolling..
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    Zip;

    Time for a new clue, Sir. A minimum of one clue each 24 hours. Thanks; Ernie P.

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    My first inclination in the search engine will be Chinese or other nation DC-3 clone..
    Sorry I'm late dear, I had to help my uncle Jack off his horse.

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    1. Twin engined .
    2. Monoplane.
    3. Built due to political necessity.
    4. Several designs were studied based on current designs from other nations.
    5. Over 130 built.
    6. There are reasons that this aircraft looks "familiar".
    7. The engines used are an unusual design for their type.
    8. The engines were later used by another aviation manufacturer to power an early version of a new type of weapon.

    Ok, sorry about the delay.!
    I'm having a hard time wording these questions in a way that wont give it away too easily..
    Thanks!
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    Only 1 guess so far?
    Hmmmm...

    1. Twin engined .
    2. Monoplane.
    3. Built due to political necessity.
    4. Several designs were studied based on current designs from other nations.
    5. Over 130 built.
    6. There are reasons that this aircraft looks "familiar".
    7. The engines used are an unusual design for their type.
    8. The engines were later used by another aviation manufacturer to power an early version of a new type of weapon.
    9. The first 2 versions have 1 official name, the next 2 versions are known by a totally different name.
    10. The number of aircraft produced was about half of what was originally ordered when the aircraft that was originally desired was made available.

    O.k. guys.... how about some guesses!
    Thanks!
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    Only 1 guess so far?
    Hmmmm...

    1. Twin engined .
    2. Monoplane.
    3. Built due to political necessity.
    4. Several designs were studied based on current designs from other nations.
    5. Over 130 built.
    6. There are reasons that this aircraft looks "familiar".
    7. The engines used are an unusual design for their type.
    8. The engines were later used by another aviation manufacturer to power an early version of a new type of weapon.
    9. The first 2 versions have 1 official name, the next 2 versions are known by a totally different name.
    10. The number of aircraft produced was about half of what was originally ordered when the aircraft that was originally desired was made available.
    11. The first time I saw its designation I did a double take.
    12. Max speed 1.8 mach.


    O.k. guys.... how about some guesses!
    Thanks!
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    Typhoon FGR4 ?
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    Aidc f-ck-1
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    That's it!
    Brn2fly got it!
    You're up!

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    Hope this works, but I'm at work doing this on my semi-smart phone.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDC_F-CK-1_Ching-kuo

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    Kool, I found the info on a different website. I'll have my first clue up in an hour or two.
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    Ok here goes.

    Clues:
    1. This aircraft was flown by at least 5 military organizations.
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    Clues:
    1. This aircraft is flown by at least 5 military organizations.
    2. The only difference between the aircraft that the above military organizations use are the engines.
    Last edited by brn2fly; 04-09-2014 at 09:29 PM.
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    Clues:
    1. This aircraft is flown by at least 5 military organizations.
    2. The only difference between the aircraft that the above military organizations use are the engines.
    3. There are two "visually" different engine types used on this aircraft.
    4. The first two aircraft of this type were converted civilian aircraft. All the rest were purpose built.
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    Kc-135?

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    Good guess, however the KC-135 was never a civilian production aircraft. New clue:

    1. This aircraft is flown by at least 5 military organizations.
    2. The only difference between the aircraft that the above military organizations use are the engines.
    3. There are two "visually" different engine types used on this aircraft.
    4. The first two aircraft of this type were converted civilian aircraft. All the rest were purpose built.
    5. Less than 100 were made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brn2fly View Post
    Good guess, however the KC-135 was never a civilian production aircraft. New clue:

    1. This aircraft is flown by at least 5 military organizations.
    2. The only difference between the aircraft that the above military organizations use are the engines.
    3. There are two "visually" different engine types used on this aircraft.
    4. The first two aircraft of this type were converted civilian aircraft. All the rest were purpose built.
    5. Less than 100 were made.

    How about the Short C-23 Sherpa? Thanks; Ernie P.


    The Short C-23 Sherpa is a small military transport aircraft built by Short Brothers. The C-23A and C-23B variants are variants of the Short 330 and the C-23B+ and C-23C are variants of the Short 360.

    The Short 330 was developed by Short Brothers of Belfast from Short's earlier Short Skyvan STOL utility transport. The 330 had a longer wingspan and fuselage than the Skyvan, while retaining the Skyvan's square shaped fuselage cross section, allowing it to carry up to 30 passengers while retaining good short field characteristics. The 330 entered commercial service in 1976.

    In addition to the passenger aircraft, Shorts also planned two freight versions. The first of these, the Short 330-UTT (for Utility Tactical Transport) was a military transport version fitted with a strengthened cabin floor, and paratroop doors, which was sold in small numbers, primarily to Thailand, who purchased four. The Short Sherpa (not to be confused with the earlier Short SB.4 Sherpa experimental aircraft) was a freighter fitted with a full width rear cargo door/ramp. This version first flew on 23 December 1982, with the first order for 18 aircraft being placed by the United States Air Force in March 1983. These aircraft were assigned to Military Airlift Command (MAC) for the European Distribution System Aircraft (EDSA) role, flying cargo and personnel between US Air Forces in Europe (USAFE) air bases.

    In U.S. military service, the Short 330 was designated the C-23A Sherpa. The C-23B Sherpa was similar to the C-23A, but with cabin windows. The C-23B+ and C-23C Short 360 derivatives were created by replacing the rear fuselage of Short 360s obtained on the second-hand market with the twin tail and rear loading ramp of the Short Sherpa.

    The C-23 was produced at the Short Brothers' facility in Belfast, Northern Ireland for the U.S. Dept. of Defense.

    The C-23A Sherpa entered USAF service in 1985 and continuing in use in the EDSA role until 1990, when the EDSA role was disbanded. Six aircraft were passed to the United States Army, where they were used to support the Army National Guard, joining 10 new build C-23B Sherpa aircraft. Other variants are C-23B+ and C-23C. The C-23 replaced the UV-18 Twin Otter in U.S. service. The C-23 was the only cargo plane operated by the U.S Army.

    During Iraq War, 2003–present, the C-23 has served the Army's intra-theater needs of cargo and personnel transport. It provided an economic alternative for transporting some 20 people or 3 pallets of cargo when speed is not critical.

    On 13 June 2007, the Alenia C-27J was selected to replace the C-23 in US Army service. A total of 43 C-23s were in service with the US Army as of November 2008. The C-23 Sherpa was retired from the Army National Guard in January 2014. As part of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2014, 8 C-23s may be transferred to the State of Alaska to operate from short rural runways for search-and-rescue and medium-lift missions.

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    Thank you Ernie P but that is not what I'm looking for. Another clue:

    1. This aircraft is flown by at least 5 military organizations.
    2. The only difference between the aircraft that the above military organizations use are the engines.
    3. There are two "visually" different engine types used on this aircraft.
    4. The first two aircraft of this type were converted civilian aircraft. All the rest were purpose built.
    5. Less than 100 were made.
    6. There have been three hull loses.
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    Another clue:
    1. This aircraft is flown by at least 5 military organizations.
    2. The only difference between the aircraft that the above military organizations use are the engines.
    3. There are two "visually" different engine types used on this aircraft.
    4. The first two aircraft of this type were converted civilian aircraft. All the rest were purpose built.
    5. Less than 100 were made.
    6. There have been three hull loses.
    7. Of the three hull loses, only one had fatalities.
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    E-3 Sentry?

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    brn2fly;

    We're waiting on your response and/or next clue. Although I do think JohnnyS has it. Thanks; Ernie P.

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    Sorry, I had drill this weekend. JonnyS is correct. I flew the E-3 for about 7 years. Great airplane! So JonnyS you are up!
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    Somehow I knew it had something to do with the Boeing 707...

    OK, here's a new one. Hopefully it's weird enough:

    1. It was an interceptor design, that reached as far as concept stage and wind tunnel testing but no further.

    2. It had ailerons that also acted as combined rudders and elevators.


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