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Old 12-29-2015, 10:03 AM
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Gerd Barkhorn?
Old 12-29-2015, 12:45 PM
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Yes, Barkhorn. That didn't take long! Second-highest ace of all time with 301 victories, all on the eastern front, after going without a victory in the West. Spent a fair amount of time in hospitals during the war. Eventually became a general in the West German air force after the war. Wiki here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Barkhorn
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Originally Posted by rcguy59
Gerd Barkhorn?
You remind me of the IBM Jeopardy computer....and I mean that in a good way.
Old 12-29-2015, 01:13 PM
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In the late 60's, the Brits demonstrated the Harrier in various Nato countries in an effort to generate export sales. Local pilots were sometimes invited to fly the demo plane. In West Germany, Gerd Barkhorn attempted to fly one of the demo Harriers, wrecking it in the process. He wasn't injured. Upon climbing out of the wreck, his first words were "Drei hundert und zwei." Meaning that with tongue firmly in cheek, the Harrier was his 302nd kill. When my Bob Holman 50cc FW190D is finished, it will wear the markings of Barkhorn's airplane.

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After doing a bit of research, I discovered that Barkhorn's Harrier crash occurred in the UK, not W.Germany. And technically, it wasn't a Harrier, but a Kestrel FGA1, which was an early version of the Harrier. I guess the memory IS the first to go! I got to meet some WW2 Luftwaffe pilots when I was stationed in W. Germany, but Barkhorn died in an auto accident about a year before I got there.

http://www.donhollway.com/gerhardbarkhorn/

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This should go quickly.

Name a WW2 warbird designer that flew his own creation in combat.
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Kelly Johnson, P-38?
Old 12-29-2015, 06:12 PM
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Not Kelly. He was a pilot, though.

Name a WW2 warbird designer that flew his own creation in combat.

1. The incident occurred when this designer was flying an unarmed example of his creation to a meeting. Ground control alerted him to the presence of enemy fighters approaching him. He succeeded in outrunning his pursuers. This encounter was certainly not intentional on the part of this designer, but he was in unquestionably in harm's way.

2. The particular warbird he was flying was produced in very limited numbers and only one example survives today.
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Howard Hughes.
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Name a WW2 warbird designer that flew his own creation in combat.

1. The incident occurred when this designer was flying an unarmed example of his creation to a meeting. Ground control alerted him to the presence of enemy fighters approaching him. He succeeded in outrunning his pursuers. This encounter was certainly not intentional on the part of this designer, but he was in unquestionably in harm's way.

2. The particular warbird he was flying was produced in very limited numbers and only one example survives today.

3. This warbird was a development of another highly successful plane by the same designer.
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Originally Posted by porcia83
Howard Hughes.
No, but if I read somewhere that he HAD flown one of his planes in combat, I wouldn't be too surprised.
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Originally Posted by rcguy59
No, but if I read somewhere that he HAD flown one of his planes in combat, I wouldn't be too surprised.
That man was a certifiable mad genius....literally and figuratively!
Old 12-29-2015, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by porcia83
That man was a certifiable mad genius....literally and figuratively!
Precisely why I would fail to be surprised by anything he did.
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Name a WW2 warbird designer that flew his own creation in combat.

1. The incident occurred when this designer was flying an unarmed example of his creation to a meeting. Ground control alerted him to the presence of enemy fighters approaching him. He succeeded in outrunning his pursuers. This encounter was certainly not intentional on the part of this designer, but he was in unquestionably in harm's way.

2. The particular warbird he was flying was produced in very limited numbers and only one example survives today.

3. This warbird was a development of another highly successful plane by the same designer.

4. This man designed warbirds in and for no less than three different countries, each on a different continent.
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Name a WW2 warbird designer that flew his own creation in combat.

1. The incident occurred when this designer was flying an unarmed example of his creation to a meeting. Ground control alerted him to the presence of enemy fighters approaching him. He succeeded in outrunning his pursuers. This encounter was certainly not intentional on the part of this designer, but he was in unquestionably in harm's way.

2. The particular warbird he was flying was produced in very limited numbers and only one example survives today.

3. This warbird was a development of another highly successful plane by the same designer.

4. This man designed warbirds in and for no less than three different countries, each on a different continent.

5. He designed trainers, airliners, observation planes and jet fighters.
Old 12-29-2015, 09:23 PM
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You do like to pick the totally obscure people, don't you

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Old 12-30-2015, 09:26 AM
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Not so obscure it is the designer of the TA-152 Kurt Tank. He was flying the prototype to a meeting and some allied fighters jumped him just after wheels up. The radio call was something about the "Dogs are on your 6"
He just went to war emergency max power and flew away from them and the allies were left trying to figure out what just happened.
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Originally Posted by elmshoot
Not so obscure it is the designer of the TA-152 Kurt Tank. He was flying the prototype to a meeting and some allied fighters jumped him just after wheels up. The radio call was something about the "Dogs are on your 6"
He just went to war emergency max power and flew away from them and the allies were left trying to figure out what just happened.
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You got it! That was why I thought this one would go quickly. To warbird buffs, Kurt Tank was on par with any other designer of his era and superior to most, especially if you consider the chaotic conditions present in Germany from 1943 onward. Shortages of everything except the enemy, engines hampered by poor-quality fuel and severe shortages of critical alloys. Even when they managed to overcome those problems, they found themselves severely lacking pilots competent enough to survive more than a handful of missions. I'm certainly glad the Germans lost, but it sure as hell wasn't for lack of trying.

A lot of ill-informed warbird buffs like to point at some of the wild and futuristic planes and weapons Germany was working on at war's end and play the "What if" game. The only fact that matters is that once the Soviets and Americans entered the war, Germany was doomed, no matter what. The Germans had neither the resources nor the time to make any sort of "victory" possible.

http://military.wikia.com/wiki/Focke...52#cite_note-6
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OK I have a plane in mind
1. Prototype and a few more built less than a dozen total.

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Old 12-31-2015, 08:55 PM
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OK I have a plane in mind
1. Prototype and a few more built less than a dozen total.
2. The last taildragger this country ever flew in combat.
3. None were lost in Combat
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U-2R Dragon Lady.

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Old 01-01-2016, 09:34 AM
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Great guess but wrong.
1. Prototype and a few more built less than a dozen total.
2. The last taildragger this country ever flew in combat.
3. None were lost in Combat
4. In a supersonic world this plane had fixed landing gear.
5. It carried no offensive armament.
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1. Prototype and a few more built less than a dozen total.
2. The last taildragger this country ever flew in combat.
3. None were lost in Combat
4. In a supersonic world this plane had fixed landing gear.
5. It carried no offensive armament.
6. Repurposed Airframe
7. As the government will do sometimes they added an engine.
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